| After Eom’s reported racist incident 19:34 - Oct 14 with 5038 views | KeithHaynes |
This one has gone to trial. Just goes to show that racism and hate comes in all forms. Lock him up.
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 12:57 - Oct 20 with 775 views | jack247 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 11:35 - Oct 20 by onehunglow |
Right
I don’t know the details of the abuse offered to EOM
I’d assume it was on the lines of the nature of oriental eyes
I view that abuse as more personal and vicious and in line with racist make up that defines Millwalls filthy fan base
I don’t like sheepshagging chants coming from England as it makes them look retarded tw@ts and the majority of English folk are fine . I’ve married them and my kids and their families don’t see Welsh in that way and are as embarrassed at that chant as I am with England is full of shit ,which is surely the most ironic of all.
It’s so passé
It’s not IMO racist ,more moronic , but that’s just me. Look at the definition of racism and it’s all about perception
Why do we play in the English system
Why aren’t our derbies versus Carmarthen Town or Penybint nd our exciting away days to Cinnahs Quay or Caernarfon . There ,we would all see Welsh folk enjoying each others company wouldn’t we ,debriefing each other with derring do tales of supporting Wales in Zagreb, Lisboa,or Baku .
OHL posts opinions as does Union Jack.
Neither is on here to cultivate forum backslapping or fan aggrandisement or to act in concert against heretics who don’t toe the line
I met Union and he’s alright by me as he’s the sort who can discuss and debate . Properly |
You could have just said you agreed or up arrowed my post |  | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 13:29 - Oct 20 with 708 views | onehunglow |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 12:57 - Oct 20 by jack247 |
You could have just said you agreed or up arrowed my post |
I do as I feel but within the rules [Post edited 20 Oct 13:30]
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 14:14 - Oct 20 with 676 views | Gwyn737 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 12:26 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
Have you ever heard Welsh or Wales mentioned in the sheep chant I haven't, so can it really be racist against Wales or Welsh people. |
Could be used towards New Zealanders, couldn't it? [Post edited 20 Oct 14:15]
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:09 - Oct 20 with 612 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 14:14 - Oct 20 by Gwyn737 |
Could be used towards New Zealanders, couldn't it? [Post edited 20 Oct 14:15]
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Or Cumbrians. |  | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:17 - Oct 20 with 598 views | 3swan |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:09 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
Or Cumbrians. |
Also Aberdeen fans get called it in Scotland
I've had it many times in my working life, is it a bit stupid yes, but I gave as much as I got.
Most people can recognise banter from out and out racism.
It's all about intent | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:58 - Oct 20 with 571 views | union_jack |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:17 - Oct 20 by 3swan |
Also Aberdeen fans get called it in Scotland
I've had it many times in my working life, is it a bit stupid yes, but I gave as much as I got.
Most people can recognise banter from out and out racism.
It's all about intent |
And Derby fans by Nottm Forest fans. |  |
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:03 - Oct 20 with 566 views | Gwyn737 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 15:17 - Oct 20 by 3swan |
Also Aberdeen fans get called it in Scotland
I've had it many times in my working life, is it a bit stupid yes, but I gave as much as I got.
Most people can recognise banter from out and out racism.
It's all about intent |
Jimmy Carr does a great line on this:
"Look for intent not content". | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:12 - Oct 20 with 545 views | 3swan |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:03 - Oct 20 by Gwyn737 |
Jimmy Carr does a great line on this:
"Look for intent not content". |
Exactly
Especially as over time words change their meaning or have extra meaning.
Words shouldn’t hurt it’s the intent of the words that can | | | |
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:16 - Oct 20 with 519 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:12 - Oct 20 by 3swan |
Exactly
Especially as over time words change their meaning or have extra meaning.
Words shouldn’t hurt it’s the intent of the words that can |
I can't for the life of me see intent in the sheep song, its purely banter. | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:18 - Oct 20 with 524 views | 3swan |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:16 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
I can't for the life of me see intent in the sheep song, its purely banter. |
Exactly | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 17:49 - Oct 20 with 480 views | jack247 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 16:16 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
I can't for the life of me see intent in the sheep song, its purely banter. |
Nobody can, apart from the professionally offended. Literally every set of away fans at every game does at least one rendition of ‘insert town is a shithole, I want to go home’. Nobody seems bothered by that, but apparently England’s full of shit is crass.
I bet the people who don’t go and find the back and forth between fans distasteful loved watching during Covid | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 18:24 - Oct 20 with 449 views | onehunglow |
So,how to prove intent?
How to prosecute
How to defend
We are under attack and are playing by rules by which others don’t play by | |
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 18:55 - Oct 20 with 428 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 18:24 - Oct 20 by onehunglow |
So,how to prove intent?
How to prosecute
How to defend
We are under attack and are playing by rules by which others don’t play by |
I would say if something is said with malice it is said with intent, the sheep chant is said with neither, it really is that simple. | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:06 - Oct 20 with 397 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 10:13 - Oct 20 by union_jack |
Fluffy wimps😂😂😂. The irony of this coming from someone who is so easily offended.
Really now, do us all a favour and drop this repetitive nonsense. It’s the same cr@p day in day out and you’re boring most of us to death. It’s lost any comedy value if indeed there was any.
You are a bore man! |
Be clear I am not easily offended. English people treating Welsh people like dirt is ingrained in our culture. In 2026 this has to end if other ethnic groups (like Korean Black Irish and Jews) are treated better than so should we. The Korean one is actually also toxic and stomach churning and that is why it has been highlighted. OHL does not even know this.
i am explaining to you that singing sheep chants with venomous intent and designed to intimidate is criminal. That is it.
You must have seen it and walked away and protected your family from the ruckus. Smart move. If you want to stop you can. You carry the union flag and will defend your English brother to the hilt even if they call you a dog. Good for you.
I am not made like you and do not carry the burden of history or any feeling of gratitude to the English. That does not mean I would not fight for UK if called upon as we have a common interest. Total Welsh independence is somewhat impractical unless the English agree to take 5% of the Sovereign debt.
As it stand I will defend the Welsh corner against all-comers and the slacker yellow bellies within our own ranks. You are making excuses for your perceived betters. You are a Wimpish Welsh man using the Union flag as a crutch.
I am not a wimp. I am giving hard facts to slack people with fluffy excuses for racist thugs. I am not really getting any backing off anyone on here. I am going solo. I do not need approval or a flag for mates to gather around in a time of conflict. I know plenty of people agree with me because it is human logic. [Post edited 20 Oct 20:14]
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:13 - Oct 20 with 380 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:06 - Oct 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Be clear I am not easily offended. English people treating Welsh people like dirt is ingrained in our culture. In 2026 this has to end if other ethnic groups (like Korean Black Irish and Jews) are treated better than so should we. The Korean one is actually also toxic and stomach churning and that is why it has been highlighted. OHL does not even know this.
i am explaining to you that singing sheep chants with venomous intent and designed to intimidate is criminal. That is it.
You must have seen it and walked away and protected your family from the ruckus. Smart move. If you want to stop you can. You carry the union flag and will defend your English brother to the hilt even if they call you a dog. Good for you.
I am not made like you and do not carry the burden of history or any feeling of gratitude to the English. That does not mean I would not fight for UK if called upon as we have a common interest. Total Welsh independence is somewhat impractical unless the English agree to take 5% of the Sovereign debt.
As it stand I will defend the Welsh corner against all-comers and the slacker yellow bellies within our own ranks. You are making excuses for your perceived betters. You are a Wimpish Welsh man using the Union flag as a crutch.
I am not a wimp. I am giving hard facts to slack people with fluffy excuses for racist thugs. I am not really getting any backing off anyone on here. I am going solo. I do not need approval or a flag for mates to gather around in a time of conflict. I know plenty of people agree with me because it is human logic. [Post edited 20 Oct 20:14]
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Some of us live in the real world and enjoy our life without worrying over petty things which really don't impact anyone unless they are looking for issues. If it concerns you fair enough but the rest of Wales are not wimps because we don't agree with you. We are just sensible. | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:19 - Oct 20 with 380 views | jack247 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:06 - Oct 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Be clear I am not easily offended. English people treating Welsh people like dirt is ingrained in our culture. In 2026 this has to end if other ethnic groups (like Korean Black Irish and Jews) are treated better than so should we. The Korean one is actually also toxic and stomach churning and that is why it has been highlighted. OHL does not even know this.
i am explaining to you that singing sheep chants with venomous intent and designed to intimidate is criminal. That is it.
You must have seen it and walked away and protected your family from the ruckus. Smart move. If you want to stop you can. You carry the union flag and will defend your English brother to the hilt even if they call you a dog. Good for you.
I am not made like you and do not carry the burden of history or any feeling of gratitude to the English. That does not mean I would not fight for UK if called upon as we have a common interest. Total Welsh independence is somewhat impractical unless the English agree to take 5% of the Sovereign debt.
As it stand I will defend the Welsh corner against all-comers and the slacker yellow bellies within our own ranks. You are making excuses for your perceived betters. You are a Wimpish Welsh man using the Union flag as a crutch.
I am not a wimp. I am giving hard facts to slack people with fluffy excuses for racist thugs. I am not really getting any backing off anyone on here. I am going solo. I do not need approval or a flag for mates to gather around in a time of conflict. I know plenty of people agree with me because it is human logic. [Post edited 20 Oct 20:14]
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Plaid Cymru’s wet dream | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:20 - Oct 20 with 376 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:13 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
Some of us live in the real world and enjoy our life without worrying over petty things which really don't impact anyone unless they are looking for issues. If it concerns you fair enough but the rest of Wales are not wimps because we don't agree with you. We are just sensible. |
I would agree with you if you applied you values to Black players Pakistani players and Korean players. Eom did not complain.I want consistency in the LAW. | |
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| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:23 - Oct 20 with 375 views | Gwyn737 |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:20 - Oct 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I would agree with you if you applied you values to Black players Pakistani players and Korean players. Eom did not complain.I want consistency in the LAW. |
What about black players like Ben Cabango?
Should he be offended for sheep chants? | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:25 - Oct 20 with 364 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:20 - Oct 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I would agree with you if you applied you values to Black players Pakistani players and Korean players. Eom did not complain.I want consistency in the LAW. |
If everyone disagrees with you there is a possibility you might be completely wrong. | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 21:22 - Oct 20 with 329 views | 3swan |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 20:25 - Oct 20 by Whiterockin |
If everyone disagrees with you there is a possibility you might be completely wrong. |
All my working life has been in England.
I must have missed the bit about being treated like dirt.
I have good English friends (I had to say that so that I can't be racist towards them)
Not once have I been looked down on, always treated as an equal even though people knew I was Welsh first and proud.
Of course there was banter but no malice intended.
Football banter does not reflect life in general.
It's sad that some, not many, cannot accept that | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 21:29 - Oct 20 with 310 views | Whiterockin |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 21:22 - Oct 20 by 3swan |
All my working life has been in England.
I must have missed the bit about being treated like dirt.
I have good English friends (I had to say that so that I can't be racist towards them)
Not once have I been looked down on, always treated as an equal even though people knew I was Welsh first and proud.
Of course there was banter but no malice intended.
Football banter does not reflect life in general.
It's sad that some, not many, cannot accept that |
Some look for something that isn't there. | | | |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 09:20 - Oct 21 with 148 views | onehunglow |
| After Eom’s reported racist incident on 21:22 - Oct 20 by 3swan |
All my working life has been in England.
I must have missed the bit about being treated like dirt.
I have good English friends (I had to say that so that I can't be racist towards them)
Not once have I been looked down on, always treated as an equal even though people knew I was Welsh first and proud.
Of course there was banter but no malice intended.
Football banter does not reflect life in general.
It's sad that some, not many, cannot accept that |
Great post that Clive
I’ve been here 50 yrs , after 26 in Swansea
It’s been very good to me and I have never been subjected to the abuse infested by resolven
Most I’ve had was from a fellow member of the Squash team I played for
A Cardiff man
I’m
Not one exactly one to walk away from insults or slights either
Liverpool, when I worked there was just the same
They hated cockneys more | |
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