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Wales v England 19:10 - Feb 11 with 1301 viewsbonymine

Why oh why are Wales ALWAYS so naive when 'attempting' to close a game out ?

I've been pissed off for a long time now at seeing us lose games in the Six Nations as well as the Autumn Internationals, World Cups, Tours etc whilst being in the lead but making CATASTROPHIC decisions 'in play'.

The latest episode arrived today where TWO major events were TOTALLY MISMANAGED ....

1) Take the 3 points in front of the posts first half with such an easy kick against ENGLAND ....the second BEST team in the world !!!!
2) WTF was Jonathan Davies doing when he booted possession away to England in the CLOSING MINUTES which led to their try ? When a kick to touch would have 'wound down the click further and allowed us to re-group etc' ?

I am a FOOTBALL FAN primarily over the past 40 years but decisions by PROFESSIONAL RUGBY PLAYERS made like today are quite staggering ....

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Wales v England on 20:13 - Feb 11 with 1256 viewsunion_jack

Jonathan Davies's kick was the incident that list the game for Wales.

That said, I think he went for distance and if you look at it, it veers terribly to the right which was unfortunate.

In hindsight he should have made sure he made touch even if it was closer. He had the time.

Hindsight though, is a precise science.

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Wales v England on 20:15 - Feb 11 with 1240 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Wales v England on 20:13 - Feb 11 by union_jack

Jonathan Davies's kick was the incident that list the game for Wales.

That said, I think he went for distance and if you look at it, it veers terribly to the right which was unfortunate.

In hindsight he should have made sure he made touch even if it was closer. He had the time.

Hindsight though, is a precise science.


Hindsight shouldn't be necessary. He's a professional rugby player. He was waiting for a good five seconds before he received the ball. He should have been able to think and do the appropriate thing. Very poor.

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Wales v England on 20:31 - Feb 11 with 1213 viewsunion_jack

Wales v England on 20:15 - Feb 11 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

Hindsight shouldn't be necessary. He's a professional rugby player. He was waiting for a good five seconds before he received the ball. He should have been able to think and do the appropriate thing. Very poor.


I can't disagree other than to say pressure can cause errors.

He, and Wales in general were under a lot of pressure. He wanted to get the balk as far up the field as possible. The harder you strike the ball, the less the accuracy generally.

A shame but a game of fine margins.

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Wales v England on 20:31 - Feb 11 with 1210 viewsbonymine

Wales v England on 20:13 - Feb 11 by union_jack

Jonathan Davies's kick was the incident that list the game for Wales.

That said, I think he went for distance and if you look at it, it veers terribly to the right which was unfortunate.

In hindsight he should have made sure he made touch even if it was closer. He had the time.

Hindsight though, is a precise science.


Hindsight yes but precise no .....

He had the ABSOLUTE CHANCE to put that ball dead but didn't ........

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Wales v England on 20:36 - Feb 11 with 1190 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Wales v England on 20:31 - Feb 11 by union_jack

I can't disagree other than to say pressure can cause errors.

He, and Wales in general were under a lot of pressure. He wanted to get the balk as far up the field as possible. The harder you strike the ball, the less the accuracy generally.

A shame but a game of fine margins.


I realise that, but this wasn't an U15's match where the kids just want to punt it long. He should have been experienced enough to collect his thoughts and decide what was the best course of action. He cost his team mates an incredible victory.

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Wales v England on 20:37 - Feb 11 with 1190 viewsGiff

Why was he in the position to kick it? Surely Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Biggar or Liam Williams should have been in that position - all far better kickers.
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Wales v England on 20:42 - Feb 11 with 1173 viewsunion_jack

Wales v England on 20:37 - Feb 11 by Giff

Why was he in the position to kick it? Surely Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Biggar or Liam Williams should have been in that position - all far better kickers.


A good point. Wales had good control of the ball which would have given a better kicker time to get into a receiver position.

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Wales v England on 20:45 - Feb 11 with 1147 viewsperchrockjack

At this level, simply unforgivable

Worse, Eddie Jones vindicated

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Wales v England on 20:56 - Feb 11 with 1120 viewswaynekerr55

Wales v England on 20:13 - Feb 11 by union_jack

Jonathan Davies's kick was the incident that list the game for Wales.

That said, I think he went for distance and if you look at it, it veers terribly to the right which was unfortunate.

In hindsight he should have made sure he made touch even if it was closer. He had the time.

Hindsight though, is a precise science.


"list the game"

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Wales v England on 20:58 - Feb 11 with 1105 viewsunion_jack

Wales v England on 20:56 - Feb 11 by waynekerr55

"list the game"

We have Officer Crabtree's popping up ill oover the gaff
[Post edited 11 Feb 2017 20:56]


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Wales v England on 21:08 - Feb 11 with 1074 viewsjack247

And that's what it came down to. A poor decision with the finish line in sight and Englands ability to exploit it ruthlessly.

There was a certain inevitability about it. You could see it coming when we were well on top for a lot of the second half but couldn't convert that into points.

Still, they are the best team outside New Zealand and we gave them a hell of a game.
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Wales v England on 21:43 - Feb 11 with 1026 viewswaynekerr55

Wales v England on 21:08 - Feb 11 by jack247

And that's what it came down to. A poor decision with the finish line in sight and Englands ability to exploit it ruthlessly.

There was a certain inevitability about it. You could see it coming when we were well on top for a lot of the second half but couldn't convert that into points.

Still, they are the best team outside New Zealand and we gave them a hell of a game.


Please don't take this the wrong way, but the last sentence of your post sums up everything that's wrong with our mentality. "We gave them a hell of a game" is our go to line when we lose.

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Wales v England on 21:57 - Feb 11 with 994 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Wales v England on 21:43 - Feb 11 by waynekerr55

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the last sentence of your post sums up everything that's wrong with our mentality. "We gave them a hell of a game" is our go to line when we lose.


The same applies to our football club.

"Oh but we gave Man City a good game, we almost drew!"

Embarrassing. It was a point dropped due to poor goalkeeping and the failure to purchase a Premier League quality right back.

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Wales v England on 21:57 - Feb 11 with 996 viewsjack247

Wales v England on 21:43 - Feb 11 by waynekerr55

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the last sentence of your post sums up everything that's wrong with our mentality. "We gave them a hell of a game" is our go to line when we lose.


I know what you mean, but we actually did. They beat us through an error of judgement, whereas they steamroller most teams.

People were saying the same thing after the Man City game.
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Wales v England on 21:57 - Feb 11 with 996 viewsmajorraglan

Wales v England on 21:43 - Feb 11 by waynekerr55

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the last sentence of your post sums up everything that's wrong with our mentality. "We gave them a hell of a game" is our go to line when we lose.


You are right on the money here. To be the best you have to be focussed and losing isn't good enough.
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Wales v England on 10:18 - Feb 12 with 842 viewsZZoric

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Wales v England on 10:26 - Feb 12 with 831 viewsJoe_bradshaw

It was a bad mistake but you could see an England score coming at any moment. We didn't back ourselves to keep possession, go through a few phases, make some ground and then clear from a better position. That would have frustrated England enormously with time running out.

The big difference in the last 15 minutes was that their bench was much stronger than ours. Their subs improved their team whilst ours made our team weaker. After being slightly the better team for 65 minutes England's strength in depth was the deciding factor.

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Wales v England on 10:28 - Feb 12 with 830 viewsDracan66

I was at the game and was near the corner for England's winning try, cuthbert was all at sea and their winger had an easy run in. Prior to that Wales were on the attack an cuthbert knocked on allowing England field position....it wasn't his day again !

The other thing is why we took off moriarity when he was having an outstanding game and to a degree that applies to Scott Williams, Ken Owens and Rees Webb.....fair enough if they were blowing but as that old saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Wales threw it away when the game was theirs for the taking.
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