| Corbyn and free speech 09:52 - Oct 12 with 669 views | onehunglow |
Piers yesterday in Cardiff with a megaphone basically bellowing that the virus and everything associated with it is a con.
This is "free speech".
This is one reason I am against it ,if that is the case. You cannot have "free " speech ,ever,in a civilised society as it simply gives a licence to cause offence and all sorts of mayhem. Its why we have laws that basically try to stop it.
It works both ways ,left and right. |  |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 10:31 - Oct 12 with 649 views | Highjack |
He should be allowed to say whatever he wants just like his brother. |  |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 10:31 - Oct 12 with 649 views | Professor |
Free speech that endangers public health. Plenty of it coming from all political sides.
Both the government and people not following guidance have royally messed up. | | | |
| Corbyn and free speech on 10:35 - Oct 12 with 643 views | onehunglow |
Indeed.
For me,Piers words will lead to deaths .
Simple as that.
Criminally irresponsible | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 11:04 - Oct 12 with 627 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 10:35 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
Indeed.
For me,Piers words will lead to deaths .
Simple as that.
Criminally irresponsible |
Surely that’s the point. He has the right to express his opinion then people of the opposing view can say no Piers you’re wrong and this is why. Banning opinion never leads to anything positive. | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 11:55 - Oct 12 with 610 views | onehunglow |
In that case ,would you be confortable with encouraging holocaust deniers,racist invective or indeed pederatry and paedophilia.
There are lines that need to be drawn and therefore total freedom to express what you feel and to encourage others to do so is why we have laws-and rightly so. | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 12:12 - Oct 12 with 604 views | Darran |
| Corbyn and free speech on 11:04 - Oct 12 by Highjack |
Surely that’s the point. He has the right to express his opinion then people of the opposing view can say no Piers you’re wrong and this is why. Banning opinion never leads to anything positive. |
You can’t even express your opinion on here anymore without it being removed.
Very interesting. |  |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 12:49 - Oct 12 with 590 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 11:55 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
In that case ,would you be confortable with encouraging holocaust deniers,racist invective or indeed pederatry and paedophilia.
There are lines that need to be drawn and therefore total freedom to express what you feel and to encourage others to do so is why we have laws-and rightly so. |
I wouldn’t encourage it no but discussion of controversial topics is much better out in the public domain rather than on some corner of the dark web. | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 12:53 - Oct 12 with 587 views | Lohengrin |
| Corbyn and free speech on 11:04 - Oct 12 by Highjack |
Surely that’s the point. He has the right to express his opinion then people of the opposing view can say no Piers you’re wrong and this is why. Banning opinion never leads to anything positive. |
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it’s degrading to make the attempt.”
That’s Christopher Hitchens. He knew, didn’t he? |  |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 13:33 - Oct 12 with 557 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 12:53 - Oct 12 by Lohengrin |
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it’s degrading to make the attempt.”
That’s Christopher Hitchens. He knew, didn’t he? |
Of course he did. We all knew. We’ve seen this coming for years if not decades.
Here’s another one that I agree with wholeheartedly:
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so (Removed by administrator)ing what?” | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 13:37 - Oct 12 with 555 views | onehunglow |
You keeping your spirits up,highjack?  | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 13:42 - Oct 12 with 549 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 13:37 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
You keeping your spirits up,highjack? |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 13:50 - Oct 12 with 542 views | onehunglow |
Has another notorious poster appended that photo of me | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 14:00 - Oct 12 with 535 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 13:50 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
Has another notorious poster appended that photo of me |
I have literally no idea what you’re on about you mad bastard. | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 14:06 - Oct 12 with 531 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corbyn and free speech on 11:55 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
In that case ,would you be confortable with encouraging holocaust deniers,racist invective or indeed pederatry and paedophilia.
There are lines that need to be drawn and therefore total freedom to express what you feel and to encourage others to do so is why we have laws-and rightly so. |
Surely it is better to let him have his rant and then declare him wrong, a crank, deluded by explaining why he is wrong.
You do realise he is not alone there are literally thousands, if not millions of like minded individuals.
It does not make them right, but they may be factually correct on some of their claims.
Free speech helps to keep people free. [Post edited 12 Oct 2020 14:46]
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| Corbyn and free speech on 14:34 - Oct 12 with 513 views | Highjack |
| Corbyn and free speech on 14:06 - Oct 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Surely it is better to let him have his rant and then declare him wrong, a crank, deluded by explaining why he is wrong.
You do realise he is not alone there are literally thousands, if not millions of like minded individuals.
It does not make them right, but they may be factually correct on some of their claims.
Free speech helps to keep people free. [Post edited 12 Oct 2020 14:46]
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I doubt you’ll find a lot of people who will agree with him that this virus is a hoax or it’s caused by 5g or Huwawei or any of that other bollocks but people will be increasingly sympathetic to his campaign to repeal the coronavirus act. I’ve mentioned before about my gran being effectively imprisoned lying in bed for 8 months on her own with no family visits or any quality of life. The carers don’t spend any time with her. It makes me very very angry. | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 14:50 - Oct 12 with 496 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corbyn and free speech on 14:34 - Oct 12 by Highjack |
I doubt you’ll find a lot of people who will agree with him that this virus is a hoax or it’s caused by 5g or Huwawei or any of that other bollocks but people will be increasingly sympathetic to his campaign to repeal the coronavirus act. I’ve mentioned before about my gran being effectively imprisoned lying in bed for 8 months on her own with no family visits or any quality of life. The carers don’t spend any time with her. It makes me very very angry. |
He has so many "beliefs" that there are many groups who believe that bits of it are true.
As you say I doubt they all believe all of them.
I am gutted for you, your family and your mum.
It is literally a national disgrace that in 6 months they could not organise a way to make it happen for all of you in that position.
It just reflects everything else going on around COVID, a total shambles. | | | |
| Corbyn and free speech on 15:29 - Oct 12 with 486 views | onehunglow |
Highjack.
Do i have to paint a picture of the moon
Thanks friend  | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 18:13 - Oct 12 with 453 views | Catullus |
To paraphrase, I disagree with what you say but will fight to the death for your right to say it.
Isn' that the best way to go? If we outlaw, criminalise or ban certain beliefs al we do is drive those people underground and that's surely more dangerous?
Isn't it better to know who these people are? | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 18:36 - Oct 12 with 449 views | onehunglow |
Thank you all for your opinions.
Think it was a decent exchange | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 10:28 - Oct 13 with 406 views | felixstowe_jack |
I thought Drakeford was against unnecessary travel to lockdown areas? | |
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| Corbyn and free speech on 10:29 - Oct 13 with 403 views | onehunglow |
Im glad I managed to get that little break in Norfolk last month.
It feels like crossing a border when you get past Elveden forest
or that camera infested A 14 | |
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