| More clubs in the FFP thingy 10:18 - Jan 15 with 1591 views | KeithHaynes |
A report emerging this week claims another two Championship clubs in Middlesbrough and Stoke City could also receive a points deduction.
It was on Wednesday that Bristol City were named as one of the many teams who face being sanctioned similar to what happened at Reading.
Robins CEO Richard Gould suggested the EFL’s Profit & Sustainability required urgent reform to preserve the credibility of the second tier following the “act of God” that was the pandemic, which has left his side fighting record losses and look like seeing points deducted in the near future.
Now it’s said that Middlesbrough and Stoke City are facing fresh scrutiny and could suffer the same face as the Telegraph suggests all three clubs are at risk of a docking due to breaching rules.
The Royals were handed a six-point deduction, with a further six suspended, in November after losses of £57.8m with permitted losses over a three-year period at £39m
Boro and the Potters ‘are also expected to face severe scrutiny as the Football League enters the next 12 months of its three-year profit and sustainability cycle.’
The cycle runs from June to June, however clubs have to make their submissions to the EFL by the start of March and any points deduction for the clubs are likely to come for the 2022/22 season.
Bristol City chief executive Richard Gould states how the collapse in transfer values because of Covid has cost the club £30m.
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 11:16 - Jan 15 with 1502 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Cardiff next |  |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 11:24 - Jan 15 with 1489 views | Whiterockin |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 11:16 - Jan 15 by Brynmill_Jack |
Cardiff next |
How much a year interest are they paying on the Tan loans without anything else. |  | | |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:07 - Jan 15 with 1443 views | max936 |
Hope so, those clubs seem to be able to attract playing by offering more, unfairly by looks of it 9pts each please.
Cardiff can have a 15pt reduction though  |  |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:53 - Jan 15 with 1390 views | jasper_T |
You don't lose £30/40/50m in a year just because of covid. Clubs trying to stretch the limits and gamble on promotion and then coming unstuck when it turns out they're not as clever as they thought.
FFP does need reform but these overpaid executives will be asking for more leniency to drive their football clubs into ruin. Spending limits should be lower and sanctions stricter and set in stone so there's no more delays like with Derby that saw them wrongly survive last season.
The big problem is the revenue gap between 20th and 21st in the English football pyramid. It's natural that everyone will chase that £100m/annum payday, it's the biggest financial step in world football. But the EFL has no power over what the PL does. |  | | |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 14:24 - Jan 15 with 1302 views | max936 |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:53 - Jan 15 by jasper_T |
You don't lose £30/40/50m in a year just because of covid. Clubs trying to stretch the limits and gamble on promotion and then coming unstuck when it turns out they're not as clever as they thought.
FFP does need reform but these overpaid executives will be asking for more leniency to drive their football clubs into ruin. Spending limits should be lower and sanctions stricter and set in stone so there's no more delays like with Derby that saw them wrongly survive last season.
The big problem is the revenue gap between 20th and 21st in the English football pyramid. It's natural that everyone will chase that £100m/annum payday, it's the biggest financial step in world football. But the EFL has no power over what the PL does. |
"But the EFL has no power over what the PL does."
Which is ridiculous when you think about it, afterall they all play in the same framework, by that I mean there relegation and promotion, from every league so why should EPL have their own rules. All down to the fact that Money Rules above all else. | |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 15:01 - Jan 15 with 1255 views | Catullus |
I said months back that more clubs would be in trouble. it was hardly clever though, any idiot can see football is being unsustainably run and has been for years. All covid has done is speed up the inevitable. | |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 15:06 - Jan 15 with 1249 views | Luther27 |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:53 - Jan 15 by jasper_T |
You don't lose £30/40/50m in a year just because of covid. Clubs trying to stretch the limits and gamble on promotion and then coming unstuck when it turns out they're not as clever as they thought.
FFP does need reform but these overpaid executives will be asking for more leniency to drive their football clubs into ruin. Spending limits should be lower and sanctions stricter and set in stone so there's no more delays like with Derby that saw them wrongly survive last season.
The big problem is the revenue gap between 20th and 21st in the English football pyramid. It's natural that everyone will chase that £100m/annum payday, it's the biggest financial step in world football. But the EFL has no power over what the PL does. |
The so called Big 6 try their best to screw the rest of the Premiership teams….in turn they screw the EFL who at best are totally inept yet alone incompetent. I see no fix just the collapse of more clubs. | | | |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 15:30 - Jan 15 with 1226 views | Kilkennyjack |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:53 - Jan 15 by jasper_T |
You don't lose £30/40/50m in a year just because of covid. Clubs trying to stretch the limits and gamble on promotion and then coming unstuck when it turns out they're not as clever as they thought.
FFP does need reform but these overpaid executives will be asking for more leniency to drive their football clubs into ruin. Spending limits should be lower and sanctions stricter and set in stone so there's no more delays like with Derby that saw them wrongly survive last season.
The big problem is the revenue gap between 20th and 21st in the English football pyramid. It's natural that everyone will chase that £100m/annum payday, it's the biggest financial step in world football. But the EFL has no power over what the PL does. |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 01:00 - Jan 16 with 1081 views | jack_lord |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 15:01 - Jan 15 by Catullus |
I said months back that more clubs would be in trouble. it was hardly clever though, any idiot can see football is being unsustainably run and has been for years. All covid has done is speed up the inevitable. |
Is it going to get to a point where clubs (maybe like Swansea) are going to miss out because they are adhering to guidelines? If 15 clubs fall foul of ffp and are all only penalised X points then all they have to do is finish above three crap teams and could be promoted whilst cheating. Derby could avoid relegation with their massive points deduction and if there were loads of others with a lower deduction (like Reading) then are the debts forgotten after the deduction? |  |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 09:40 - Jan 16 with 962 views | raynor94 |
Boro are suing Derby for £41 million, any idea what this is about, I understand why Wycombe are claiming £6 million, but Boro  |  |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 09:56 - Jan 16 with 935 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 09:40 - Jan 16 by raynor94 |
Boro are suing Derby for £41 million, any idea what this is about, I understand why Wycombe are claiming £6 million, but Boro |
Derby pipped boro to a playoff spot by one point the same year the Derby owner sold the ground to himself to get around the rules. | | | |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 10:21 - Jan 16 with 901 views | raynor94 |
Cheers lads | |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 11:37 - Jan 16 with 865 views | Catullus |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 01:00 - Jan 16 by jack_lord |
Is it going to get to a point where clubs (maybe like Swansea) are going to miss out because they are adhering to guidelines? If 15 clubs fall foul of ffp and are all only penalised X points then all they have to do is finish above three crap teams and could be promoted whilst cheating. Derby could avoid relegation with their massive points deduction and if there were loads of others with a lower deduction (like Reading) then are the debts forgotten after the deduction? |
The debts aren't forgotten, after the punishment the club has to get itself into order. If they don't, or can't then there will be further punishments waiting.
The ridiculous thing is, the investigation and handing out punishments can take so long that a rule compliant club can suffer unfairly, like Wycombe did. | |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 12:17 - Jan 16 with 832 views | max936 |
Thats gonna get messy . | |
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| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 14:55 - Jan 16 with 749 views | grabsplatter |
Bournemouth are going to be in trouble if they don't get promoted this season, spending big with very limited matchday revenue. |  | | |
| More clubs in the FFP thingy on 15:19 - Jan 16 with 722 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Guilty clubs should have an enforced salary cap for a season and only allowed to sign free transfers. | | | |
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