| The championship 13:52 - Dec 27 with 4209 views | whoflungdung |
Not sure some ate welcoming this as we could be equally crisp there .we could fall as we did in the eighties unless Jenkins leaves and new owners found [Post edited 27 Dec 2017 13:52]
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| The championship on 14:09 - Dec 27 with 2915 views | Mervyn |
Challenging times ahead.......clubs far far bigger than us struggle to prevent that slide once it gains momentum.....I,ll just console myself with what comes around goes around etc etc...Jenkins Morgan Dineen will have plenty of payback from various troubles and strife over the coming years ahead ......along with some innocent members of their families I’m afraid. | | | |
| The championship on 14:11 - Dec 27 with 2902 views | whoflungdung |
If you're in the trough ,you share the swill
I'm more bothered about the many who will lose their jobs in Swansea as a result
Nobody s fault but our own | |
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| The championship on 14:14 - Dec 27 with 2880 views | Darran |
| The championship on 14:11 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
If you're in the trough ,you share the swill
I'm more bothered about the many who will lose their jobs in Swansea as a result
Nobody s fault but our own |
There’s only one good that’ll come out of being in The Championship and that’s you rarely seeing a game.
The loss of jobs/revenue etc is horrendous. |  |
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| The championship on 14:21 - Dec 27 with 2854 views | Jack_Kass |
| The championship on 14:11 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
If you're in the trough ,you share the swill
I'm more bothered about the many who will lose their jobs in Swansea as a result
Nobody s fault but our own |
Who are the many that will lose their jobs?
I've never really understood that argument.
The city isn't empty apart from a home game every 2 weeks. | |
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| The championship on 14:24 - Dec 27 with 2833 views | whoflungdung |
So ,it's all fine then
Have a look at what Rev James posts in relegation thread .
I know many who stay in Swansea for games . These people spend money. | |
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| The championship on 14:29 - Dec 27 with 2807 views | Jack_Kass |
| The championship on 14:24 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
So ,it's all fine then
Have a look at what Rev James posts in relegation thread .
I know many who stay in Swansea for games . These people spend money. |
That only talks about the people at the club, nothing in the wider city.
Buying a hotel room/visiting the city isn't an exclusive right to supporters of Premier league teams, supporters in the Championship have the ability to do the same. | |
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| The championship on 14:30 - Dec 27 with 2801 views | RevJames |
| The championship on 14:21 - Dec 27 by Jack_Kass |
Who are the many that will lose their jobs?
I've never really understood that argument.
The city isn't empty apart from a home game every 2 weeks. |
As if we needed to state the obvious, here's some more.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22654929 | | | |
| The championship on 14:34 - Dec 27 with 2765 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Villa made 400 people redundant after relegation. The majority were part time or match day only staff but it still hits home and that’s club staff only. The effects outside the club are considerable too. |  |
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| The championship on 14:37 - Dec 27 with 2753 views | Jack_Kass |
Any data/studies to prove job losses in the wider community when a team gets relegated? which would be more relevant.
A economic boost 6 years ago doesn't mean people in the community wake up with a P45 at the end of the season, should we be relegated. [Post edited 27 Dec 2017 14:38]
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| The championship on 15:01 - Dec 27 with 2661 views | Kilkennyjack |
Look at Hull City.
Just outside Championship relegation places and manager already sacked.
Sold their best players from last sesson (and Clucas), and lost their premier league manager. |  |
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| The championship on 15:04 - Dec 27 with 2642 views | whoflungdung |
kASS
Seriously, don't be complacent. Jobs will go.
Its actually the case many more jobs could have been created while we re in Prem LEAGUE. Swansea is a name now global and small minded parochial shyte aint helping anyone
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We had no much potential and I'm genuinely truly upset
Frankly, any abuse from you or any other on here is meaningless | |
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| The championship on 15:32 - Dec 27 with 2558 views | monmouth |
| The championship on 15:04 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
kASS
Seriously, don't be complacent. Jobs will go.
Its actually the case many more jobs could have been created while we re in Prem LEAGUE. Swansea is a name now global and small minded parochial shyte aint helping anyone
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We had no much potential and I'm genuinely truly upset
Frankly, any abuse from you or any other on here is meaningless |
You (or I) could easily build an argument that in February 2013 we had the most potential of any club outside the established ones. Cup winners, respected, great football, a platform for talent.
Then it was all brought crashing down by the inability to change a vision from ‘what we were’ to ‘what we could become’. With hindsight that is exactly the point where Jenkins needed to ‘hand over the reins’. Instead he is still creaming off his (probably by now) three quarters of a million, and driving us into terminal obscurity. |  |
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| The championship on 16:45 - Dec 27 with 2411 views | whoflungdung |
Mon.
I'm deadly serious here
I was so excited when we went up. My dad saw us get back to the top at a grand age and our family, here, had a wonderful celebration
I thought it would see us grown exponentially and we should have.
Every kid from port talbot to Newtown to Aberystwyth should have been wanting to see us in a 30000 capacity stadium.
With any decent stewardship ,it could have been done. Don't let anybody tell em Swansea is too small for that . It's bigger than Middlesborough who have two giants nearby .
It's a massive opportunity lost and Jenkins should be ashamed . He should also come out fighting and defend himself against our accusations . That said,even at my age, with arthritis in wrists and ruptured thigh damage , I d seriously love to take him out or at least make his day traumatic.
He s actually insulting the memory of fans now no longer with us sho helpless save this club.
OTT ...no way | |
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| The championship on 17:03 - Dec 27 with 2346 views | longlostjack |
The Premier League has it's faults that's for sure but the international exposure that it gives Swansea can't be underestimated. How that exposure is used to benefit the people and businesses of Swansea is the task of local government. |  |
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| The championship on 17:24 - Dec 27 with 2247 views | Yossarian |
The players know they aren’t good enough- that’s clear. They are looking around for a leader and there ain’t one. They probably knew they were fu*ked when Gylfi and Llorente left without marquee signings to replace them. Think about it, Joey, Bony, Michu, Ben, Shelvey, Ash, Gylfi and Llorente all moving to bigger and better things- it sends out a signal to the other players and to the fans. Selling Shelvey to balance the books blah blah blah - utter bollocks and an insult to the fans. |  |
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| The championship on 17:25 - Dec 27 with 2242 views | RevJames |
| The championship on 17:03 - Dec 27 by longlostjack |
The Premier League has it's faults that's for sure but the international exposure that it gives Swansea can't be underestimated. How that exposure is used to benefit the people and businesses of Swansea is the task of local government. |
I remember watching highlights of one of our games in Hong Kong a few years ago. A surreal but 'proud' experience among all the usual Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal fans.
You're right, the global exposure and potential economic spin-offs the PL offers to the Club and South West Wales shouldn't be underestimated.
It's just a real shame that it's all been inexcusably thrown away and we're now a total embarrassment  | | | |
| The championship on 17:35 - Dec 27 with 2206 views | golly47 |
| The championship on 14:11 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
If you're in the trough ,you share the swill
I'm more bothered about the many who will lose their jobs in Swansea as a result
Nobody s fault but our own |
As somebody who works at the liberty, I'm worried that I'll be out of work since I doubt nobody will pay the stupid money in hospitality to watch Bolton. |  |
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| The championship on 17:39 - Dec 27 with 2187 views | Wingstandwood |
| The championship on 16:45 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
Mon.
I'm deadly serious here
I was so excited when we went up. My dad saw us get back to the top at a grand age and our family, here, had a wonderful celebration
I thought it would see us grown exponentially and we should have.
Every kid from port talbot to Newtown to Aberystwyth should have been wanting to see us in a 30000 capacity stadium.
With any decent stewardship ,it could have been done. Don't let anybody tell em Swansea is too small for that . It's bigger than Middlesborough who have two giants nearby .
It's a massive opportunity lost and Jenkins should be ashamed . He should also come out fighting and defend himself against our accusations . That said,even at my age, with arthritis in wrists and ruptured thigh damage , I d seriously love to take him out or at least make his day traumatic.
He s actually insulting the memory of fans now no longer with us sho helpless save this club.
OTT ...no way |
Wasted opportunity, a stadium that should have been expanded with at least an extra tier over one of the stands but Jenkins and Co (nice contract Jaxxbay hey) decided to pay for TWO training complexes Fairwood and Landore....Why not one and a stadium expansion?
And to add to the insanity the club has had abysmal returns out of these complexes to an extent where the club keeps going back and fore and back and fore again to Falkirk to get young players that fail. And where first team players cannot even take a f#cking corner or cross. Or get a shot on target/score goals.
An amateur buffoon (Dineen) in charge of commercial side (only betting companies) across the home shirt, not a household name brand in sight etc, etc, etc. A failed roofing supplies merchandiser as a d.o.f..
More JOBS FOR THE BOYS ruination where utterly inexperienced joke impostors like Monk, O'Leary, Clotet etc, etc, etc were brought in to coach at Premier League level and non-Premier League standard players being offered contract extensions to play at that level. JOBS FOR THE BOYS at SCFC, cheap options to increase profits/share dividends and in-house profiteering to line board pockets has helped the clubs decline and make the club rotten to the core |  |
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| The championship on 17:46 - Dec 27 with 2157 views | jasper_T |
| The championship on 17:24 - Dec 27 by Yossarian |
The players know they aren’t good enough- that’s clear. They are looking around for a leader and there ain’t one. They probably knew they were fu*ked when Gylfi and Llorente left without marquee signings to replace them. Think about it, Joey, Bony, Michu, Ben, Shelvey, Ash, Gylfi and Llorente all moving to bigger and better things- it sends out a signal to the other players and to the fans. Selling Shelvey to balance the books blah blah blah - utter bollocks and an insult to the fans. |
What better things has Shelvey moved on to? A season in the Championship and now a rotational spot in another relegation scrap? | | | |
| The championship on 17:46 - Dec 27 with 2151 views | Darran |
| The championship on 16:45 - Dec 27 by whoflungdung |
Mon.
I'm deadly serious here
I was so excited when we went up. My dad saw us get back to the top at a grand age and our family, here, had a wonderful celebration
I thought it would see us grown exponentially and we should have.
Every kid from port talbot to Newtown to Aberystwyth should have been wanting to see us in a 30000 capacity stadium.
With any decent stewardship ,it could have been done. Don't let anybody tell em Swansea is too small for that . It's bigger than Middlesborough who have two giants nearby .
It's a massive opportunity lost and Jenkins should be ashamed . He should also come out fighting and defend himself against our accusations . That said,even at my age, with arthritis in wrists and ruptured thigh damage , I d seriously love to take him out or at least make his day traumatic.
He s actually insulting the memory of fans now no longer with us sho helpless save this club.
OTT ...no way |
Aye so excited you couldn’t be fuçking arsed to go to Wembley because it was on telly.
Go away with your bullshit your only worry is your Kodi box. | |
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| The championship on 18:00 - Dec 27 with 2129 views | skettyparkherbert |
| The championship on 17:39 - Dec 27 by Wingstandwood |
Wasted opportunity, a stadium that should have been expanded with at least an extra tier over one of the stands but Jenkins and Co (nice contract Jaxxbay hey) decided to pay for TWO training complexes Fairwood and Landore....Why not one and a stadium expansion?
And to add to the insanity the club has had abysmal returns out of these complexes to an extent where the club keeps going back and fore and back and fore again to Falkirk to get young players that fail. And where first team players cannot even take a f#cking corner or cross. Or get a shot on target/score goals.
An amateur buffoon (Dineen) in charge of commercial side (only betting companies) across the home shirt, not a household name brand in sight etc, etc, etc. A failed roofing supplies merchandiser as a d.o.f..
More JOBS FOR THE BOYS ruination where utterly inexperienced joke impostors like Monk, O'Leary, Clotet etc, etc, etc were brought in to coach at Premier League level and non-Premier League standard players being offered contract extensions to play at that level. JOBS FOR THE BOYS at SCFC, cheap options to increase profits/share dividends and in-house profiteering to line board pockets has helped the clubs decline and make the club rotten to the core |
Good point, i too have wondered why the 2 training grounds and the point of spending all that money on an Academy too?
Ben Davies aside who else has come out of that massive investment.
Also we have reached a massive low point and are a few points adrift from safety at the bottom of the league, our 1st team players have proved they haven't got the stomach for a fight so why the fuk have we not thrown in a couple of the U23's??
If any of the board and players carried half the anger hurt and embarrassment in their conscience that us fans have to carry i would have some optimism for the next 2 games at Watford on saturday and Tottenham at home on Tuesday but i'm fuking dreading it. | | | |
| The championship on 18:15 - Dec 27 with 2091 views | Kennedy |
Ben Davies did not come out of the new training facilities.
Has any home grown player that we have not bought actually played a PL game? |  |
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| The championship on 18:23 - Dec 27 with 2075 views | Wingstandwood |
| The championship on 18:00 - Dec 27 by skettyparkherbert |
Good point, i too have wondered why the 2 training grounds and the point of spending all that money on an Academy too?
Ben Davies aside who else has come out of that massive investment.
Also we have reached a massive low point and are a few points adrift from safety at the bottom of the league, our 1st team players have proved they haven't got the stomach for a fight so why the fuk have we not thrown in a couple of the U23's??
If any of the board and players carried half the anger hurt and embarrassment in their conscience that us fans have to carry i would have some optimism for the next 2 games at Watford on saturday and Tottenham at home on Tuesday but i'm fuking dreading it. |
My personal opinion is expansion was never an option because IMO none of the sell-outs could personally profiteer from it in the same way they could from other things.
Stadium expansion would have (I know what I’m taking about here) required a contractor with specialised expertise and experience in stadium construction/expansion. The Liberty being even more complex because of its original build specifications that would/will make expansion even more difficult.
Only an established contractor employing a sizeable workforce to undertake a specialised complex task using highly specialised engineering expertise and logistics could pull this one off.
So basically any stadium ‘contract’ awarded would have had to have gone to an ‘outside-entity’ far away from the ever so comfy JOBS FOR THE BOYS ‘closed shop/ in-house’ world of a ‘fill-yer-boots’ boardroom membership.
Edit.....IMO the expansion talk and planning permission stuff was like JTAK DVD i.e. a ruse, mere bluff to entice the Yanks and make the club look a more juicer purchase. [Post edited 27 Dec 2017 19:02]
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| The championship on 18:46 - Dec 27 with 2012 views | jasper_T |
| The championship on 18:15 - Dec 27 by Kennedy |
Ben Davies did not come out of the new training facilities.
Has any home grown player that we have not bought actually played a PL game? |
No.
But you'll struggle to find many "home grown player that we have not bought" come through any PL academy. There's a lot of business done at u18s level (like us buying Dan James off Hull) and most of the top prospects have bounced around at least once by the time they break through.
Liam Shephard played a cup game (and was very poor) but he was Cardiff at u16s. [Post edited 27 Dec 2017 18:47]
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| The championship on 18:47 - Dec 27 with 2010 views | Wingstandwood |
| The championship on 18:00 - Dec 27 by skettyparkherbert |
Good point, i too have wondered why the 2 training grounds and the point of spending all that money on an Academy too?
Ben Davies aside who else has come out of that massive investment.
Also we have reached a massive low point and are a few points adrift from safety at the bottom of the league, our 1st team players have proved they haven't got the stomach for a fight so why the fuk have we not thrown in a couple of the U23's??
If any of the board and players carried half the anger hurt and embarrassment in their conscience that us fans have to carry i would have some optimism for the next 2 games at Watford on saturday and Tottenham at home on Tuesday but i'm fuking dreading it. |
Can I just further add since Toshacks Div One days i.e. Swansea has only produced five players in approx 35 years capable of playing regulary at the highest division and being able to hold down a first team place. Dean Saunders, Andy Melville, Colin Pascoe, Ben Davies and Joe Allen are the only ones I can think of. Chris Colemans not on the list he came from Man City.
Something is seriously wrong bearing in mind the population of Swansea, Dyfed, Glamorgan, South Wales i.e. we're not taking about a market town backwatwer here! Appalling returns. | |
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