| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? 20:03 - Oct 4 with 2473 views | trampie |
Should Burnham be Labour leader, would he appeal to the English ? (that is who he has to appeal too), is he a man of the left but with Tony Blair's slickness ?
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:28 - Oct 4 with 1973 views | Sirjohnalot |
He's loved up here, (he is our Mayor) he's known as the King of the North |  | | |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:32 - Oct 4 with 1962 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:28 - Oct 4 by Sirjohnalot |
He's loved up here, (he is our Mayor) he's known as the King of the North |
Is he a red Tory or is he one of my lot ? - eg a man with socialist principles and ideals, eg don't privatise NHS and renationalised vital industries. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:35 - Oct 4 with 1959 views | onehunglow |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:28 - Oct 4 by Sirjohnalot |
He's loved up here, (he is our Mayor) he's known as the King of the North |
Well not all love him Jon .
He wouldn’t be loved in Wales as. He s English .
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:41 - Oct 4 with 1941 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:35 - Oct 4 by onehunglow |
Well not all love him Jon .
He wouldn’t be loved in Wales as. He s English .
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I think he would have mass appeal including in Wales amongst people who lean towards Labour, that is why I asked the question 'Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:42 - Oct 4 with 1941 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:32 - Oct 4 by trampie |
Is he a red Tory or is he one of my lot ? - eg a man with socialist principles and ideals, eg don't privatise NHS and renationalised vital industries. |
He really speaks for the people of Manchester, brilliant at connecting with the people, he is a Scouser who is loved in Manchester. When he went for the interview to become a candidate for the Mayor, he was asked 'Why would the people of Manchester Trust you being from Liverpool ? How can you convince them that you wouldn't favour United or City ?' He replied 'that's easy, I hate them both equally'
He really spoke our during the pandemic for support for working people up here. | | | |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:45 - Oct 4 with 1934 views | onehunglow |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:41 - Oct 4 by trampie |
I think he would have mass appeal including in Wales amongst people who lean towards Labour, that is why I asked the question 'Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:50 - Oct 4 with 1926 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:42 - Oct 4 by Sirjohnalot |
He really speaks for the people of Manchester, brilliant at connecting with the people, he is a Scouser who is loved in Manchester. When he went for the interview to become a candidate for the Mayor, he was asked 'Why would the people of Manchester Trust you being from Liverpool ? How can you convince them that you wouldn't favour United or City ?' He replied 'that's easy, I hate them both equally'
He really spoke our during the pandemic for support for working people up here. |
He has impressed me when I've seen him over the years and I think his presentation is slick and professional. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:02 - Oct 4 with 1904 views | Kilkennyjack |
If he calls Brexit out for being shite, then he will do for me.
Keir is too careful and so Johnson gets away with his appalling behaviour.
Johnson needs hammering every day.
Secondly Keir has not really been an enthusiast for Devo Max, but its the only real hope of saving the union through creating a modern version of the out dated union.
Without that, the Indy train is unstoppable.
I dont know Andy’s views.
Lastly if Andy wants that anti-Tory alliance then he is on a winner. In fact its his patriotic duty to save the post war UK. |  |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:04 - Oct 4 with 1896 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:02 - Oct 4 by Kilkennyjack |
If he calls Brexit out for being shite, then he will do for me.
Keir is too careful and so Johnson gets away with his appalling behaviour.
Johnson needs hammering every day.
Secondly Keir has not really been an enthusiast for Devo Max, but its the only real hope of saving the union through creating a modern version of the out dated union.
Without that, the Indy train is unstoppable.
I dont know Andy’s views.
Lastly if Andy wants that anti-Tory alliance then he is on a winner. In fact its his patriotic duty to save the post war UK. |
My thoughts as well Kilkenny. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:11 - Oct 4 with 1884 views | onehunglow |
He won’t learn Welsh though . | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:30 - Oct 4 with 1866 views | trampie |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-33283863.amp
"In this respect I believe Wales has been short-changed and as leader I would take steps to correct that."
Burnham thinks Wales doesn't get enough from the Barnett formula and if in charge he would give Wales more coin, don't forget the back pay either Mr Burnham. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 21:31]
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:56 - Oct 4 with 1837 views | Flashberryjack |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:30 - Oct 4 by trampie |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-33283863.amp
"In this respect I believe Wales has been short-changed and as leader I would take steps to correct that."
Burnham thinks Wales doesn't get enough from the Barnett formula and if in charge he would give Wales more coin, don't forget the back pay either Mr Burnham. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 21:31]
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Labour could have Andy Burnham or even Mother Treasa in charge, and they still wouldn't win an election, well, not until they flush out the ,likes of David Lammy, Abbott and the rest of the nasty hard left that have poisoned it. |  |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 07:16 - Oct 5 with 1720 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:56 - Oct 4 by Flashberryjack |
Labour could have Andy Burnham or even Mother Treasa in charge, and they still wouldn't win an election, well, not until they flush out the ,likes of David Lammy, Abbott and the rest of the nasty hard left that have poisoned it. |
Well the nasty hard right have been voted in on the back of the English vote Johnson, Patel, Gove etc | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 10:12 - Oct 5 with 1686 views | krunchykarrot |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:32 - Oct 4 by trampie |
Is he a red Tory or is he one of my lot ? - eg a man with socialist principles and ideals, eg don't privatise NHS and renationalised vital industries. |
Labour’s NHS Privatiser-in-chief Andy Burnham ? |  | | |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 10:23 - Oct 5 with 1675 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 10:12 - Oct 5 by krunchykarrot |
Labour’s NHS Privatiser-in-chief Andy Burnham ? |
So the 'less' red Tories are still Tories, just what I've witnessed over the years, no wonder the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland and Plaid are holding their own in Wales even though about quarter of the population in Wales born was in England. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 11:11 - Oct 5 with 1640 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:32 - Oct 4 by trampie |
Is he a red Tory or is he one of my lot ? - eg a man with socialist principles and ideals, eg don't privatise NHS and renationalised vital industries. |
Think you find he is labour. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 11:13 - Oct 5 with 1639 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 21:30 - Oct 4 by trampie |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-33283863.amp
"In this respect I believe Wales has been short-changed and as leader I would take steps to correct that."
Burnham thinks Wales doesn't get enough from the Barnett formula and if in charge he would give Wales more coin, don't forget the back pay either Mr Burnham. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 21:31]
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Do Wales and Scotland need an even bigger subsidy? What about the poor regions of England? | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 12:09 - Oct 5 with 1616 views | krunchykarrot |
Im tired of talking about our shite NHS, polticians from all parties have managed to do F all other than spout the usual or throw money at a black hole. What we need is someone who could put aside their party bollox and step up with a full reform based on what works. This is why Drakeford is failing the people of Wales. | | | |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 12:39 - Oct 5 with 1602 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 12:09 - Oct 5 by krunchykarrot |
Im tired of talking about our shite NHS, polticians from all parties have managed to do F all other than spout the usual or throw money at a black hole. What we need is someone who could put aside their party bollox and step up with a full reform based on what works. This is why Drakeford is failing the people of Wales. |
Another GSTQ unionist failing you say. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 13:37 - Oct 5 with 1573 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 11:13 - Oct 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Do Wales and Scotland need an even bigger subsidy? What about the poor regions of England? |
Cymru just needs independence.
Happy to clarify ? | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 13:47 - Oct 5 with 1562 views | trampie |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 11:13 - Oct 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Do Wales and Scotland need an even bigger subsidy? What about the poor regions of England? |
The article suggests that the great and the good think that the Barnett formula is over-generous to Scotland and Northern Ireland but not generous enough to Wales, no mention of England. | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 14:04 - Oct 5 with 1557 views | CountyJim |
Voted for Burnham when JC won the leadership he's got something about him looks and talk's like a leader |  | | |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 14:53 - Oct 5 with 1538 views | Lohengrin |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 20:28 - Oct 4 by Sirjohnalot |
He's loved up here, (he is our Mayor) he's known as the King of the North |
I suspect he wouldn’t excite quite the same enthusiasm outside of consciously cosmopolitan Manchester, John. I picked up a copy of Sebastian Payne’s ‘Broken Heartlands: a journey through Labour’s lost England’ last week and it’s a book I’d recommend anybody interested in politics reads. As an exercise in taking the temperature of the neglected it could hardly be bettered.
Burnham, on the face of it, seems to be pretty much an identikit for everything former Labour voters in the north east rejected. Another roller off the assembly line of professional politicians who has never worked outside of the TU/Party cash-flush bubble. |  |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 14:55 - Oct 5 with 1536 views | Lohengrin |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 14:04 - Oct 5 by CountyJim |
Voted for Burnham when JC won the leadership he's got something about him looks and talk's like a leader |
What sort of ‘National’ leader is hostile to the very Idea of ‘The Nation?’ | |
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| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 16:04 - Oct 5 with 1508 views | onehunglow |
| Should Andy Burnham be Labour leader ? on 14:04 - Oct 5 by CountyJim |
Voted for Burnham when JC won the leadership he's got something about him looks and talk's like a leader |
Same was said of Blair.at three elections | |
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