| The dog attack 13:36 - Nov 9 with 2385 views | CountyJim | So very sad such a waste of life RIP young man |  | | |  |
| The dog attack on 13:44 - Nov 9 with 1565 views | onehunglow | Always awful Jim. As bad as it gets. |  |
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| The dog attack on 17:02 - Nov 9 with 1518 views | Scotia | It's absolutley shocking. The thought of a large agressive dog in a house alone with two children is awful. Some dog owners are completely irresponsible. |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 17:13 - Nov 9 with 1512 views | Flashberryjack |
| The dog attack on 17:02 - Nov 9 by Scotia | It's absolutley shocking. The thought of a large agressive dog in a house alone with two children is awful. Some dog owners are completely irresponsible. |
"Some dog owners are completely irresponsible" This 100% |  |
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| The dog attack on 17:17 - Nov 9 with 1496 views | onehunglow |
| The dog attack on 17:02 - Nov 9 by Scotia | It's absolutley shocking. The thought of a large agressive dog in a house alone with two children is awful. Some dog owners are completely irresponsible. |
And many attacks by small dogs.Any breed too . |  |
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| The dog attack on 17:22 - Nov 9 with 1493 views | Flashberryjack |
| The dog attack on 17:17 - Nov 9 by onehunglow | And many attacks by small dogs.Any breed too . |
If I had the choice, I'd rather be bitten by a Jack Russell than a Malinois. |  |
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| The dog attack on 17:25 - Nov 9 with 1474 views | onehunglow |
| The dog attack on 17:22 - Nov 9 by Flashberryjack | If I had the choice, I'd rather be bitten by a Jack Russell than a Malinois. |
Malis take a few years to mature flesh and they can be hyper around kids but are super protective of their own family unit. You are right though,Malinois are not ones to get bitten. On the whole though Jack R s are more of a pain. I’ve been to a few myself and many with family mongrels involved |  |
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| The dog attack on 17:37 - Nov 9 with 1471 views | Flashberryjack | "They can be hyper around kids but are super protective of their own family unit" That's why they are used as guard and protection dogs by the professionals, they are fearless, intelligent and super aggressive, that is also the reason why they are so dangerous in unexperienced hands. |  |
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| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 17:41 - Nov 9 with 1459 views | onehunglow |
| The dog attack on 17:37 - Nov 9 by Flashberryjack | "They can be hyper around kids but are super protective of their own family unit" That's why they are used as guard and protection dogs by the professionals, they are fearless, intelligent and super aggressive, that is also the reason why they are so dangerous in unexperienced hands. |
There is a certain truth in that flash. However,trust me,any dog can attack especially a child that freaks it out. Every dog should be trained professionally. Don’t have one if can’t afford one. Problem is few dogs are trained . |  |
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| The dog attack on 18:35 - Nov 9 with 1435 views | CountyJim | We had a terrible experience with a rescue dog he bit my wife on the face it was that close to blinding her we had Billy put to sleep the next day he was only dozing next to wife while watching TV he must have been having a nightmare because he just sprung up He'd had a terrible start we knew that from what RSPCA said when we took him in Despite what happened we still miss him terribly I'm welling up now writing this but he had to be put to sleep. Never leave a dog unattended with a child Got to say we where disappointed with the reaction from RSPCA I rang them to say what happened but not one person followed up with us |  | |  |
| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 18:41 - Nov 9 with 1426 views | Flashberryjack |
| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 17:41 - Nov 9 by onehunglow | There is a certain truth in that flash. However,trust me,any dog can attack especially a child that freaks it out. Every dog should be trained professionally. Don’t have one if can’t afford one. Problem is few dogs are trained . |
"any dog can attack especially a child that freaks it out" Of course they can, but some have the power to kill, you can drown in a cup full of water, but that doesn't happen as often as it does in deep water. I've trained dogs all my life, so do have a little knowledge |  |
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| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 18:56 - Nov 9 with 1410 views | Scotia |
| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 18:41 - Nov 9 by Flashberryjack | "any dog can attack especially a child that freaks it out" Of course they can, but some have the power to kill, you can drown in a cup full of water, but that doesn't happen as often as it does in deep water. I've trained dogs all my life, so do have a little knowledge |
I was on Swansea beach on the weekend, building sand castles with my 4 year old. I turned around to be face to face with a Cane Corso and American Bulldog both of the lead with the owners about 150 yds away. They were above my daughters head height and she could easily have freaked them out and they could have attacked. We wouldn't have stood a chance. I told the owners my thoughts but they saw nothing wrong in it. I'm not a fan of off the lead dogs full stop but definitely not those with the potential to kill. |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 19:02 - Nov 9 with 1404 views | Wingstandwood | I can always remember a vascular surgeon who happens to come across 'pitbull-breed-type dog' bite injuries commenting on ITV News after yet another previous fatal attack. He asked why owners would possibly want a dog like that in the first place? He said that dogs like that are bred specifically to do damage, to fight and to be powerful. The answer to his question why? There are people out there who are complete and utter t0ssers with zero-morals, intelligence, awareness and common sense, whom have no concern for others, whom are more than happy to risk children and others with a dog like that! |  |
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| The dog attack on 19:11 - Nov 9 with 1395 views | CountyJim |
| The dog attack on 19:02 - Nov 9 by Wingstandwood | I can always remember a vascular surgeon who happens to come across 'pitbull-breed-type dog' bite injuries commenting on ITV News after yet another previous fatal attack. He asked why owners would possibly want a dog like that in the first place? He said that dogs like that are bred specifically to do damage, to fight and to be powerful. The answer to his question why? There are people out there who are complete and utter t0ssers with zero-morals, intelligence, awareness and common sense, whom have no concern for others, whom are more than happy to risk children and others with a dog like that! |
And yet in UK most dog bites are from labradors |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 19:22 - Nov 9 with 1374 views | Wingstandwood |
| The dog attack on 19:11 - Nov 9 by CountyJim | And yet in UK most dog bites are from labradors |
How many labrador attack fatalities and labrador attack life changing injuries happen a year where chunks of flesh are bitten away from attack victims? The damage the vascular surgeon happened to comment about when mentioning pitbull breed danger and common injuries inflicted by that breed in particular? |  |
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| The dog attack on 19:37 - Nov 9 with 1359 views | Flashberryjack |
| The dog attack on 19:11 - Nov 9 by CountyJim | And yet in UK most dog bites are from labradors |
There's a big difference between a dog biting and a dog that attacks and kills. Labradors are one of the most popular pedigree dogs in the UK, so statistically the number of reported bites would be higher, in my experience, cross labs can be far more aggressive. |  |
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| The dog attack on 19:43 - Nov 9 with 1353 views | Boundy |
| The dog attack on 19:11 - Nov 9 by CountyJim | And yet in UK most dog bites are from labradors |
Not wishing to seem pedantic but how many bites were of a life threatening nature .? And yes I consider any dog bite a serious event .The old adage of there being no bad dogs but bad owners is as true now than ever. I had a neighbour who had a jack russell , the meanest nastiest animal I've ever had the misfortune to come across ,it wasn't the dogs' fault the owner was / is an arse and seemed to take perverse delight when ever it went ballistic on seeing someone passing his house. He often left tied in the front garden unsupervised whilst the kids were on their way to school , god forbid it broke free then it would be the owner first then the dog with shovel over the back of their collective heads |  |
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| The dog attack on 19:44 - Nov 9 with 1353 views | KeithHaynes |
| The dog attack on 17:13 - Nov 9 by Flashberryjack | "Some dog owners are completely irresponsible" This 100% |
I think the family were looking after it for a friend, not sure what the dog breed was tho. |  |
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| The dog attack on 21:46 - Nov 9 with 1282 views | MrSwerve | It should be the law to keep your dog on a lead when off your property. I don’t care if you trust your massive Alsatian approaching a group of kids, I don’t. |  |
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| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 21:49 - Nov 9 with 1277 views | max936 |
| The dog attack each if people can’t af on 18:56 - Nov 9 by Scotia | I was on Swansea beach on the weekend, building sand castles with my 4 year old. I turned around to be face to face with a Cane Corso and American Bulldog both of the lead with the owners about 150 yds away. They were above my daughters head height and she could easily have freaked them out and they could have attacked. We wouldn't have stood a chance. I told the owners my thoughts but they saw nothing wrong in it. I'm not a fan of off the lead dogs full stop but definitely not those with the potential to kill. |
Shouldn't be on beaches or kids play areas or sports field IMO. And I love dogs had them all my life apart from the last 6/7yrs. |  |
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| The dog attack on 08:52 - Nov 10 with 1133 views | Scotia |
| The dog attack on 21:46 - Nov 9 by MrSwerve | It should be the law to keep your dog on a lead when off your property. I don’t care if you trust your massive Alsatian approaching a group of kids, I don’t. |
As a lifelong dog owner myself I wouldn't have a problem with that. I've got an ex racing Greyhound and a rescued mongrel. If I let the Greyhound off the lead there would barely by a squirrel left in parks in Swansea, she's had a few in my garden along with a fox. Luckily cat's avoid my garden now. She hasn't got an agressive bone in her body towards humans, but you can't remove the natural prey instinct. They will defend themselves if they feel threatened. The amount of times I've seen dogs off leads in my local park having a crap with the owner completely oblivious is unbelievable. |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 09:51 - Nov 10 with 1113 views | Professor | Dog bites and attacks are a big problem. A couple of colleagues (well one former as he is now at Dogs Trust) have an extensive research programme on dog bites and set this up initially with the Post Office/CWU and Merseyside Police: https://merseydogsafe.co.uk As I am sure OHL will attest 'Status Dogs' are a problem here as they are in South Wales. Inappropriate breeds for a family setting with poor control. I have two small dogs (Bichon crosses) and they are not allowed off lead in parks or busy area. Neither are aggressive, but they like children and could easily bite in an interaction. Previously we had a JRT. Having a predator in your house is a responsibility. This whole event is a horrible tragedy |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 09:55 - Nov 10 with 1102 views | Fireboy2 | In my short experience of owning a dog I think that most dogs off their leads can be trusted, I always have a gander at the owner of the dog and if they aren't close I rein my boy in. As most have said, it isn't the dog but the owner who is the problem, most are great, yes you get the odd one who is a prick but most of the irresponsible owners never take their pooch for a walk anyway. And i am with everyone in saying wtf would you get a killing machine as a pet if you have small children? It beggars belief. |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 10:04 - Nov 10 with 1089 views | onehunglow |
| The dog attack on 09:55 - Nov 10 by Fireboy2 | In my short experience of owning a dog I think that most dogs off their leads can be trusted, I always have a gander at the owner of the dog and if they aren't close I rein my boy in. As most have said, it isn't the dog but the owner who is the problem, most are great, yes you get the odd one who is a prick but most of the irresponsible owners never take their pooch for a walk anyway. And i am with everyone in saying wtf would you get a killing machine as a pet if you have small children? It beggars belief. |
My son spent a few days at a farm /holiday park last week. One of the fellows there with him had a south Africa Mastiff.All 11 stone of it. Fireboy is dead right here.Literally. |  |
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| The dog attack on 10:22 - Nov 10 with 1089 views | CountyJim |
| The dog attack on 09:55 - Nov 10 by Fireboy2 | In my short experience of owning a dog I think that most dogs off their leads can be trusted, I always have a gander at the owner of the dog and if they aren't close I rein my boy in. As most have said, it isn't the dog but the owner who is the problem, most are great, yes you get the odd one who is a prick but most of the irresponsible owners never take their pooch for a walk anyway. And i am with everyone in saying wtf would you get a killing machine as a pet if you have small children? It beggars belief. |
My dog Ollie is a golden doodle he's coming up to five now but he's still so excitible it's unbelievable if I go to the shop for literally 3 minutes when I get back in its like I've been away a month ! I've got to walk him on a short leash because he gets so excited he would knock an old lady over so easily or even a small child he just thinks he's playing. We've had two dog trainers look at him but he just jumps up at them no matter what they try I can only walk him and control him he's very powerful When we have our grandchildren over he's put locked away in kitchen As a dog owner you have to think of others |  | |  |
| The dog attack on 10:31 - Nov 10 with 1077 views | onehunglow |
| The dog attack on 10:22 - Nov 10 by CountyJim | My dog Ollie is a golden doodle he's coming up to five now but he's still so excitible it's unbelievable if I go to the shop for literally 3 minutes when I get back in its like I've been away a month ! I've got to walk him on a short leash because he gets so excited he would knock an old lady over so easily or even a small child he just thinks he's playing. We've had two dog trainers look at him but he just jumps up at them no matter what they try I can only walk him and control him he's very powerful When we have our grandchildren over he's put locked away in kitchen As a dog owner you have to think of others |
JIM. It is all about the recall. If a dog cannot be recalled immediatley,he is an issue. My daughter spent considerable time with her Mali to ensure that when called it comes back straight away without question. Dogs with high prey drives need this training but they do not . The very worst thing is the long extendable lead as the dog is then in control of the owner. I would love a Mali but not sire if we could handle a pup and we're getting on a bit. Id have a ready to go 5 yr old though. Great dogs |  |
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