| Validation of Wengerworld. 12:14 - Aug 1 with 2863 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
We are now entering a new era of Swansea city. I have named it "Wengerworld". The characteristics are as follows:-
a) The manager has total control appointments / signing from top to bottom.
b) The CEO takes a back seat and lets him get on with it.
c) The club ethos is that of the manager. Organic development.
d) There are no targets other than progression
e) Investment will be minimal and only used if there is a chance of promotion.
f) Upper mid table will suffice this season.
g) Small profits are expected each season by sales.
h) Appointment will be youngish and report to Martin and the CEO
Martin is a "goldilocks manager". Too good to be sacked but not good enough to be poached by a huge salary increase. Guidolin was also a Goldilocks manager and just what the doctor ordered for Swansea. Sadly the US owners had not figured out their strategy. They have now aided by the intellect and knowledge of Silverstein.
Martin appears to be adapting slowly and gradually. Those expecting him to move on after his two years standard period will in my view be dissapointed. The exceptional Jenkinista era was run by the genius of huw jenkins who had 15 years of success with good managers coming and going on a regular basis. It made no difference. Laudrup was a classic short term fix, The great man was spinning plates and Bob Bradly was the first plate to fall and the others quickly followed. It was clearly, even in 2013, not a sustainable model.
The Swansea academy should be renamed the Huw Jenkins Academy.
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:36 - Aug 1 with 1953 views | Treforys_Jack |
Your adulation of ole big nose is bizarre |  | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:37 - Aug 1 with 1918 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:36 - Aug 1 by Treforys_Jack |
Your adulation of ole big nose is bizarre |
Actually it is bizarre not to praise the great man. I put achievement as far greater than partisanship and PR spin.
He is not loved by Swansea fans because they are committed losers who put their faith in useless committees of "good blokes" who could not deliver on their promises.
Of course if all the forums are "on side" fake narratives and biblical references picked up in Sunday school mixed with a dash of 'socialism' the popular philosophy in these parts. It all seems to have resonance and make the fans easy meat for social influencers in the "new world".
The old board delivered on their promises and exceeded it by spades. HJ in the main by his performance saw the Trust's shares increase by 100 times, what is more he put US buyers in front of them TWICE with bulging wallets. They could not cut a deal like everyone else could.
The Trust members have not performed and can deflect the blame elsewhere by playing the betrayal card. This is what all losers do. They messed up big time. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:39 - Aug 1 with 1914 views | raynor94 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:37 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Actually it is bizarre not to praise the great man. I put achievement as far greater than partisanship and PR spin.
He is not loved by Swansea fans because they are committed losers who put their faith in useless committees of "good blokes" who could not deliver on their promises.
Of course if all the forums are "on side" fake narratives and biblical references picked up in Sunday school mixed with a dash of 'socialism' the popular philosophy in these parts. It all seems to have resonance and make the fans easy meat for social influencers in the "new world".
The old board delivered on their promises and exceeded it by spades. HJ in the main by his performance saw the Trust's shares increase by 100 times, what is more he put US buyers in front of them TWICE with bulging wallets. They could not cut a deal like everyone else could.
The Trust members have not performed and can deflect the blame elsewhere by playing the betrayal card. This is what all losers do. They messed up big time. |
I wish you had followed Chief |  |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:54 - Aug 1 with 1897 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:39 - Aug 1 by raynor94 |
I wish you had followed Chief |
The Truth hurts but that is life.
Remember fake narratives get you nowhere and the purveyors of this narrative have legged it. Remember that when you examine the "sellout sponsorship" the shorts, (Travel House ) at the "Sellout" Swansea.com stadium.
A pod is provided for the Trust £10 per year. Crack on if it makes you happy and engaged which is probably the purpose. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:37 - Aug 1 with 1855 views | vetchonian |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:37 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Actually it is bizarre not to praise the great man. I put achievement as far greater than partisanship and PR spin.
He is not loved by Swansea fans because they are committed losers who put their faith in useless committees of "good blokes" who could not deliver on their promises.
Of course if all the forums are "on side" fake narratives and biblical references picked up in Sunday school mixed with a dash of 'socialism' the popular philosophy in these parts. It all seems to have resonance and make the fans easy meat for social influencers in the "new world".
The old board delivered on their promises and exceeded it by spades. HJ in the main by his performance saw the Trust's shares increase by 100 times, what is more he put US buyers in front of them TWICE with bulging wallets. They could not cut a deal like everyone else could.
The Trust members have not performed and can deflect the blame elsewhere by playing the betrayal card. This is what all losers do. They messed up big time. |
The same great man who appointed Monk a rookie manager permenantly and allowed him to dismantle the "the Swansea Way"
I repeat when Martinez left your hero made loud noises about continuity and how Curtis and Pascoe would always be part of any coaching set up....Pascoe left with Brendan but Curt remained and was part of Laudrups team upon whom HJ attempted to foist Monk.....HJ then allowed the great Monk to relegate Curt to kettle duties.....
HJ got lucky his luck ran out....I repeat the club had great opportunity to use the academy to develop both players and coaches in the club philosophy with coaches progressing in to the first team set up too....like the old Liverpool boot room which worked well in the 70sand 80s |  |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:50 - Aug 1 with 1845 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:37 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Actually it is bizarre not to praise the great man. I put achievement as far greater than partisanship and PR spin.
He is not loved by Swansea fans because they are committed losers who put their faith in useless committees of "good blokes" who could not deliver on their promises.
Of course if all the forums are "on side" fake narratives and biblical references picked up in Sunday school mixed with a dash of 'socialism' the popular philosophy in these parts. It all seems to have resonance and make the fans easy meat for social influencers in the "new world".
The old board delivered on their promises and exceeded it by spades. HJ in the main by his performance saw the Trust's shares increase by 100 times, what is more he put US buyers in front of them TWICE with bulging wallets. They could not cut a deal like everyone else could.
The Trust members have not performed and can deflect the blame elsewhere by playing the betrayal card. This is what all losers do. They messed up big time. |
It's bizarre that you don't seem to recognise he got things badly wrong in the end and cost us big time. Most of us are happy to recognise the great job he did before he started to believe his own hype. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 16:12 - Aug 1 with 1826 views | jack247 |
It’s not realistic to expect promotion when you have to sell your best player(s) and regroup every season. We still haven’t got a right back.
It’s also not realistic to expect promotion playing a kamikaze style of football when your full backs are as a high as your centre forward and your centre back is shooting and scoring from open play. Within reason, regardless of budget and personnel.
It could happen, but it’s not likely in either scenario and especially not when you combine them.
We’d also have a hell of a job getting relegated given how weak some of the bottom teams in our league will be.
My guess is, under these owners, Martin will see out his contract at least. Don’t think he’ll get in serious relegation danger, also don’t think anyone will poach him, given his radical style.
Were they to find a buyer and that buyer want to fund a promotion push, I don’t think he’d last very long. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 17:14 - Aug 1 with 1767 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:37 - Aug 1 by vetchonian |
The same great man who appointed Monk a rookie manager permenantly and allowed him to dismantle the "the Swansea Way"
I repeat when Martinez left your hero made loud noises about continuity and how Curtis and Pascoe would always be part of any coaching set up....Pascoe left with Brendan but Curt remained and was part of Laudrups team upon whom HJ attempted to foist Monk.....HJ then allowed the great Monk to relegate Curt to kettle duties.....
HJ got lucky his luck ran out....I repeat the club had great opportunity to use the academy to develop both players and coaches in the club philosophy with coaches progressing in to the first team set up too....like the old Liverpool boot room which worked well in the 70sand 80s |
These are minor details. HJ knew the short term appointment could not go on forever and appointed Monk. Monk having played under Martinez Brendan and Laudrup was not cut from the same cloth but still got the club to 8th. Relegation is an occupational hazard at that elevated level. Blame for relegation is just plain daft. No one "blames" Sean Dyche.
HJ final gift to the fans was Graham Potter and a return to the beautiful game with James Roberts, Rodon, McBurnie to help him. £50m of young talent. Sadly Potter wasted his £7m transfer budget that he controlled.
15 years of success appear to mean not a lot to Swansea fans at least on this forum. I do not have too high a regard for such entitled people. Their own much trumpeted organization is in a mess and have taken up a cash free ceremonial role it seems. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 18:00 - Aug 1 with 1719 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 17:14 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
These are minor details. HJ knew the short term appointment could not go on forever and appointed Monk. Monk having played under Martinez Brendan and Laudrup was not cut from the same cloth but still got the club to 8th. Relegation is an occupational hazard at that elevated level. Blame for relegation is just plain daft. No one "blames" Sean Dyche.
HJ final gift to the fans was Graham Potter and a return to the beautiful game with James Roberts, Rodon, McBurnie to help him. £50m of young talent. Sadly Potter wasted his £7m transfer budget that he controlled.
15 years of success appear to mean not a lot to Swansea fans at least on this forum. I do not have too high a regard for such entitled people. Their own much trumpeted organization is in a mess and have taken up a cash free ceremonial role it seems. |
I refer you to my statement, most of us recognise the sterling job he did, but are realistic to also recognise he got it badly wrong at the end, the ridiculous contracts he handed out really hamstrung us. I'm not even goin to touch on the treatment of the trust where its been proved that he lied about attending and not attending meetings etc etc, as its been done to death. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 18:56 - Aug 1 with 1675 views | BillyChong |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:37 - Aug 1 by vetchonian |
The same great man who appointed Monk a rookie manager permenantly and allowed him to dismantle the "the Swansea Way"
I repeat when Martinez left your hero made loud noises about continuity and how Curtis and Pascoe would always be part of any coaching set up....Pascoe left with Brendan but Curt remained and was part of Laudrups team upon whom HJ attempted to foist Monk.....HJ then allowed the great Monk to relegate Curt to kettle duties.....
HJ got lucky his luck ran out....I repeat the club had great opportunity to use the academy to develop both players and coaches in the club philosophy with coaches progressing in to the first team set up too....like the old Liverpool boot room which worked well in the 70sand 80s |
Indeed. This Wengerworld business is more akin to Jenkins who played footballing god and kicked off the downfall with the Monk appointment. Complacency - a word that applies to both. Wenger focussed on the new stadium at the demise of the team, Jenkins focussed on selling up. In turn this lost both of them their fanbases, which lead to both splashing the cash in desperation after the horse had bolted.
The great Jose Mourinho even had a point when referring to Wenger as a ‘specialist in failure’ during his latter years. The stubbornness of both left a poor legacy. Swansea from everyone’s favourite second team to bottom half Championship. Arsenal from invincibles to battling against West Ham for the third best in London spot. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 20:36 - Aug 1 with 1636 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 18:00 - Aug 1 by Treforys_Jack |
I refer you to my statement, most of us recognise the sterling job he did, but are realistic to also recognise he got it badly wrong at the end, the ridiculous contracts he handed out really hamstrung us. I'm not even goin to touch on the treatment of the trust where its been proved that he lied about attending and not attending meetings etc etc, as its been done to death. |
Not sure the meeting issue was anything to do with the Trust. The matter was dealt with in court and the club fined for these non conformities. Justice done. Matter closed. Happens every week all over the country with businesses.
The Trust were unhappy about the sale and could have stopped it and got cash for their shares. They chose to go the legal route but after 6 years found they did not have funding. Unbelievable.
Ayew got a good deal. Had he chipped in with 2-3 goals the club would not have been relegated. Things happen. There are no guarantees. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 06:08 - Aug 2 with 1570 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 20:36 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not sure the meeting issue was anything to do with the Trust. The matter was dealt with in court and the club fined for these non conformities. Justice done. Matter closed. Happens every week all over the country with businesses.
The Trust were unhappy about the sale and could have stopped it and got cash for their shares. They chose to go the legal route but after 6 years found they did not have funding. Unbelievable.
Ayew got a good deal. Had he chipped in with 2-3 goals the club would not have been relegated. Things happen. There are no guarantees. |
My point was/is he's a proven liar. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:30 - Aug 2 with 1482 views | shandyjack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 18:00 - Aug 1 by Treforys_Jack |
I refer you to my statement, most of us recognise the sterling job he did, but are realistic to also recognise he got it badly wrong at the end, the ridiculous contracts he handed out really hamstrung us. I'm not even goin to touch on the treatment of the trust where its been proved that he lied about attending and not attending meetings etc etc, as its been done to death. |
Bony, Ayew and Clucas were all signed in his last 2 windows in the PL and absolutely crippled us even to this day.
Not appointing Rodgers when he wanted to come back, signing Fer over Joe Allen. He took his eye off the ball massively last 2 season when he was trying to flog the club to the first takers |  |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:54 - Aug 2 with 1460 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:30 - Aug 2 by shandyjack |
Bony, Ayew and Clucas were all signed in his last 2 windows in the PL and absolutely crippled us even to this day.
Not appointing Rodgers when he wanted to come back, signing Fer over Joe Allen. He took his eye off the ball massively last 2 season when he was trying to flog the club to the first takers |
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No doubt some bad signing were made but this was one bad season out of 15. Perspective is required. Those signing fees are now history and the club is relatively debt free excluding the loans from the USA due to be converted in to investment.
Relegation crippled Swansea as it does all clubs but has now been overcome. . HJ record 15 season 3 promotions 1 major cup 1 relegation.
Potter missed the best chance of promotion . He inherited good players and James McBurnie, Byers, Rodon and Roberts from the academy and given £7m to spend. He blew the budget on sub standard players. [Post edited 2 Aug 2022 14:11]
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:35 - Aug 2 with 1424 views | shandyjack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:54 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No doubt some bad signing were made but this was one bad season out of 15. Perspective is required. Those signing fees are now history and the club is relatively debt free excluding the loans from the USA due to be converted in to investment.
Relegation crippled Swansea as it does all clubs but has now been overcome. . HJ record 15 season 3 promotions 1 major cup 1 relegation.
Potter missed the best chance of promotion . He inherited good players and James McBurnie, Byers, Rodon and Roberts from the academy and given £7m to spend. He blew the budget on sub standard players. [Post edited 2 Aug 2022 14:11]
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but those signings crippled the club with us still feeling the effects to this date.
Yes relegation cripples some clubs, but it nearly destroyed us, hence the crazy fire sale we had to have to stay afloat. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:13 - Aug 2 with 1388 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 14:35 - Aug 2 by shandyjack |
but those signings crippled the club with us still feeling the effects to this date.
Yes relegation cripples some clubs, but it nearly destroyed us, hence the crazy fire sale we had to have to stay afloat. |
There was no "crazy fire sale". It is a myth. 'Fire sale' is linked to 'fire damaged' sale 5% of residual value but is now used sloppily for spin purposes.
There was a controlled release of player on salaries too big for the Championship. Good fees were recovered in the main, some for less than they were bought for and some for more than they were bought for In all there was a balance.
There were painful losses on Clucas for sure but this was offset.
Mawson Bartley Fabianski were all sold at significant mark ups. Bony was just a bad buy and ran down his contract. Fernandez Ayew J and Mesa for below their market value but this is normal after relegation.
There are no long lasting effects today due to the sale of home grown talent from the academy set up by Jenkins and co. Jenkins managed the 7 season in the PL and a soft landing as well.
He sent u13 to USA for a tournament in 2017. Congreve, Cotterill, Lloyd all featured and are on the fringes of the first team already. The man just keeps on giving.
Swansea fans have reason to be grateful to HJ. After 15 years critics can only highlight a botched up unfair dismissal case against his regime. The club owned up to mistakes and paid a fine. Try comparing with Derby County for perspective.
Jenkins gave the club Potter at great manager who was given MvDH, Fer, Olsen, Norffeldt 5 top prospects from the academy and £7m to spend. He did not spend wisely d sadly for Swansea. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:59 - Aug 2 with 1361 views | shandyjack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:13 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There was no "crazy fire sale". It is a myth. 'Fire sale' is linked to 'fire damaged' sale 5% of residual value but is now used sloppily for spin purposes.
There was a controlled release of player on salaries too big for the Championship. Good fees were recovered in the main, some for less than they were bought for and some for more than they were bought for In all there was a balance.
There were painful losses on Clucas for sure but this was offset.
Mawson Bartley Fabianski were all sold at significant mark ups. Bony was just a bad buy and ran down his contract. Fernandez Ayew J and Mesa for below their market value but this is normal after relegation.
There are no long lasting effects today due to the sale of home grown talent from the academy set up by Jenkins and co. Jenkins managed the 7 season in the PL and a soft landing as well.
He sent u13 to USA for a tournament in 2017. Congreve, Cotterill, Lloyd all featured and are on the fringes of the first team already. The man just keeps on giving.
Swansea fans have reason to be grateful to HJ. After 15 years critics can only highlight a botched up unfair dismissal case against his regime. The club owned up to mistakes and paid a fine. Try comparing with Derby County for perspective.
Jenkins gave the club Potter at great manager who was given MvDH, Fer, Olsen, Norffeldt 5 top prospects from the academy and £7m to spend. He did not spend wisely d sadly for Swansea. |
Mawson Bartley Fabianski were all sold at significant mark up....
Going off TransferMarket website these 3 sales only made the club £5m on top of their market value. So hardly a significant mark up.
It's not a myth but a well held opinion amongst most that the window was handled atrociously and let to us receiving fees a lot less than we should have due to the club panic selling and other clubs knowing we had no choice.
Spin it no matter how you want, but the last 2 years of his tenure were a debacle.
Hiring Guidolin over Rodgers, sacking Guidolin. Allowing Monk free reign over everything.
Potter had 5 prospects from the academy who had barely had a sniff of football before and HE turned them into big value sales.
I will give him all the plaudits for his spell at the club but also will slam him for his handling of the last 2 years while he was trying to sell us to the first suckers who would buy us | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 16:58 - Aug 2 with 1337 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 15:59 - Aug 2 by shandyjack |
Mawson Bartley Fabianski were all sold at significant mark up....
Going off TransferMarket website these 3 sales only made the club £5m on top of their market value. So hardly a significant mark up.
It's not a myth but a well held opinion amongst most that the window was handled atrociously and let to us receiving fees a lot less than we should have due to the club panic selling and other clubs knowing we had no choice.
Spin it no matter how you want, but the last 2 years of his tenure were a debacle.
Hiring Guidolin over Rodgers, sacking Guidolin. Allowing Monk free reign over everything.
Potter had 5 prospects from the academy who had barely had a sniff of football before and HE turned them into big value sales.
I will give him all the plaudits for his spell at the club but also will slam him for his handling of the last 2 years while he was trying to sell us to the first suckers who would buy us |
This is a tired narrative I do not accept. The owners sold because they wanted to sell. Just like you and I sell a car or a house. We live in a free market economy world where people trade. The sale was in the best interests of the club to good people with good reputations.
Trasmkt does not give accurate transfer fee valuations every one know this.
Gains Fabianski + £7m Mawson +£15m Bartley +£6m
Loses Fernandez -£5m Ayew J -£6m Mesa -£4m Clucas £-10m
Fer, Bony, MvDH, Olsen, Carroll Ayew A ran down the contracts. No fire sale. It is a function of relegation not bad management.
By definition the two relegation struggles were struggles and the club made mistakes. Llorente should have been given a 3 rd deal not a 2 year deal. Monk did not turn out as planed but few objected at the time. It is hindsight. It was never easy. Brendan and laudrup in particular made it seem that way.
Rodon Roberts James McBurnie and Byers would have produced for any manager. They had been nurtured at the club well. Potter spent his money badly.
The club was sold to wealthy owners with experience in sports ownership. This was in fact the second offer. They brought with them no debt (unlike Burnley) and they have invested money into the club. They have been dogged by poor recruitment by Ledbetter / Jenkins and Mccauley /Potter. They have put £13m into the club.
Fans should be harsher on the 21% owners who royally messed up in 2016 when they failed to sell any of their holding worth £20m. Members did not audit the philosophy. They did not deliver and never will.
Hopefully Congreve Lloyd Cotterill and co will light up the championship and bemused fans will wonder how that happened.
The club has transitioned to championship level smoothly playing decent competitive football maintaining its fan base and clearing all debts.
The fans have nothing to complain bout but that will not stop them. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 17:14 - Aug 2 with 1326 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 16:58 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
This is a tired narrative I do not accept. The owners sold because they wanted to sell. Just like you and I sell a car or a house. We live in a free market economy world where people trade. The sale was in the best interests of the club to good people with good reputations.
Trasmkt does not give accurate transfer fee valuations every one know this.
Gains Fabianski + £7m Mawson +£15m Bartley +£6m
Loses Fernandez -£5m Ayew J -£6m Mesa -£4m Clucas £-10m
Fer, Bony, MvDH, Olsen, Carroll Ayew A ran down the contracts. No fire sale. It is a function of relegation not bad management.
By definition the two relegation struggles were struggles and the club made mistakes. Llorente should have been given a 3 rd deal not a 2 year deal. Monk did not turn out as planed but few objected at the time. It is hindsight. It was never easy. Brendan and laudrup in particular made it seem that way.
Rodon Roberts James McBurnie and Byers would have produced for any manager. They had been nurtured at the club well. Potter spent his money badly.
The club was sold to wealthy owners with experience in sports ownership. This was in fact the second offer. They brought with them no debt (unlike Burnley) and they have invested money into the club. They have been dogged by poor recruitment by Ledbetter / Jenkins and Mccauley /Potter. They have put £13m into the club.
Fans should be harsher on the 21% owners who royally messed up in 2016 when they failed to sell any of their holding worth £20m. Members did not audit the philosophy. They did not deliver and never will.
Hopefully Congreve Lloyd Cotterill and co will light up the championship and bemused fans will wonder how that happened.
The club has transitioned to championship level smoothly playing decent competitive football maintaining its fan base and clearing all debts.
The fans have nothing to complain bout but that will not stop them. |
Admit he messed up the last 18mths. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 22:25 - Aug 2 with 1272 views | BillyChong |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 13:54 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No doubt some bad signing were made but this was one bad season out of 15. Perspective is required. Those signing fees are now history and the club is relatively debt free excluding the loans from the USA due to be converted in to investment.
Relegation crippled Swansea as it does all clubs but has now been overcome. . HJ record 15 season 3 promotions 1 major cup 1 relegation.
Potter missed the best chance of promotion . He inherited good players and James McBurnie, Byers, Rodon and Roberts from the academy and given £7m to spend. He blew the budget on sub standard players. [Post edited 2 Aug 2022 14:11]
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The season prior was also a shambles. Borja Baston signed for a club record fee before leaving on a free transfer. The disastrous Bob Bradley appointment was a total embarrassment on Jenkins’ part. | | | |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:08 - Aug 2 with 1247 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 22:25 - Aug 2 by BillyChong |
The season prior was also a shambles. Borja Baston signed for a club record fee before leaving on a free transfer. The disastrous Bob Bradley appointment was a total embarrassment on Jenkins’ part. |
Borja ran down his contract and was one of too many bad signings admittedly. Jenkins sacked managers regularly but stayed loyal to his recruitment man Ledbetter. I do not think Bradley was jenkins's choice and he probably compromised for the sake of unity.
He had recovered from a poor season by bringing Potter who ultimately let the club down by making bad signings himself and cutting and running leaving behind Asoro John Celina and McKay.
His time has passed and he is unrivalled as the clubs greatest ever Chairman. Fans should be grateful to him but have no perspective and a betrayal complex. I believe if the Trust did not existed he would be feted today. It has behaved appallingly in my opinion. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:43 - Aug 2 with 1237 views | Catullus |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:08 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Borja ran down his contract and was one of too many bad signings admittedly. Jenkins sacked managers regularly but stayed loyal to his recruitment man Ledbetter. I do not think Bradley was jenkins's choice and he probably compromised for the sake of unity.
He had recovered from a poor season by bringing Potter who ultimately let the club down by making bad signings himself and cutting and running leaving behind Asoro John Celina and McKay.
His time has passed and he is unrivalled as the clubs greatest ever Chairman. Fans should be grateful to him but have no perspective and a betrayal complex. I believe if the Trust did not existed he would be feted today. It has behaved appallingly in my opinion. |
Borja ran down his contract, NO, nobody would touch him at the fee we paid and his wages.
The "sellouts" did sell because they wanted too, could you be more obvious? But why did they want to? because they could see the writing on the wall and wanted to cash in while they still could. They did so well for a long time but then they ran the club into the ground, Bony alone was a disastrous re-signing, Clucas was a screw up of majestic proportions, specially as we could have had Allen back for half the price if Jenkins hadn't refused. Joe was up for 8 million, Jenkins refused then after the Euros Stoke paid 13 million for him.
Your ongoing defence of the indefensible is more and more bizarre. | |
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:57 - Aug 2 with 1231 views | STID2017 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:08 - Aug 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Borja ran down his contract and was one of too many bad signings admittedly. Jenkins sacked managers regularly but stayed loyal to his recruitment man Ledbetter. I do not think Bradley was jenkins's choice and he probably compromised for the sake of unity.
He had recovered from a poor season by bringing Potter who ultimately let the club down by making bad signings himself and cutting and running leaving behind Asoro John Celina and McKay.
His time has passed and he is unrivalled as the clubs greatest ever Chairman. Fans should be grateful to him but have no perspective and a betrayal complex. I believe if the Trust did not existed he would be feted today. It has behaved appallingly in my opinion. |
For club's greatest chairman read Malcolm Struel.
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| Validation of Wengerworld. on 00:10 - Aug 3 with 1227 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Validation of Wengerworld. on 23:57 - Aug 2 by STID2017 |
For club's greatest chairman read Malcolm Struel.
End of discussion |
Only Keith can end discussions. Jenkins was far more successful. The fans actually turned on Mr Struel as well actually trashing his car in the car park I recall.
I lived through both eras. | |
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Borja ran down his contract and was one of too many bad signings admittedly. Jenkins sacked managers regularly but stayed loyal to his recruitment man Ledbetter. I do not think Bradley was jenkins's choice and he probably compromised for the sake of unity.
He had recovered from a poor season by bringing Potter who ultimately let the club down by making bad signings himself and cutting and running leaving behind Asoro John Celina and McKay.
His time has passed and he is unrivalled as the clubs greatest ever Chairman. Fans should be grateful to him but have no perspective and a betrayal complex. I believe if the Trust did not existed he would be feted today. It has behaved appallingly in my opinion. |
The trust behaved appallingly !!!! You're going to next level bizarro world now. | | | |
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