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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery 15:00 - Oct 11 with 1825 viewsSwansIndependent


What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery 11th Oct 2022 14:57
After his sides 1-1 draw with Aston Villa ex Swansea and now Nottingham Forest boss Steve Cooper fired a missive that can only be perceived as towards the swans in his post match interview. It’s a bit odd he would mention such matters in the glow of a point earned against Steve Gerrard’s Villa, especially when talking about his contract at the city ground. 0



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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 17:19 - Oct 11 with 1683 viewsWhiterockin

And some wonder why he is disliked by so many Swansea supporters.
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 17:45 - Oct 11 with 1648 viewsSTID2017

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 17:19 - Oct 11 by Whiterockin

And some wonder why he is disliked by so many Swansea supporters.


Exactly.
That statement says it all.
He will fall out of favour with the fans at Forest when they wake up and realise that he and Tatey are not Clough and Taylor reborn.
What a kick in the teeth for the club that gave him his start in league management.
How any Swans fans can defend that is beyond me, but sure some will.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 19:55 - Oct 11 with 1482 viewsmax936

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 17:45 - Oct 11 by STID2017

Exactly.
That statement says it all.
He will fall out of favour with the fans at Forest when they wake up and realise that he and Tatey are not Clough and Taylor reborn.
What a kick in the teeth for the club that gave him his start in league management.
How any Swans fans can defend that is beyond me, but sure some will.


Time to move on and forget about Cooper, he's obviously got a chip on his shoulder regarding Swans, so leave him to it.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 00:26 - Oct 12 with 1303 viewsSTID2017

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 19:55 - Oct 11 by max936

Time to move on and forget about Cooper, he's obviously got a chip on his shoulder regarding Swans, so leave him to it.


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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 08:34 - Oct 12 with 1176 viewsBest_loser

Most managers leave under a cloud , if there wasn't a cloud they wouldn't leave , he did well here , produced a minor miracle at forest , we were in a good position for auto promotion and wasn't backed with a bit of money from the owners at a critical time
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 08:37 - Oct 12 with 1167 viewsSirjohnalot

Bloke gets a job, does well for a couple of years, leaves that job then gets another, better paid job elsewhere.
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 08:47 - Oct 12 with 1143 viewsWhiterockin

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 08:37 - Oct 12 by Sirjohnalot

Bloke gets a job, does well for a couple of years, leaves that job then gets another, better paid job elsewhere.


I stand to be corrected here but didn't we pay the manager £1M bonus when we were promoted to the Premier League and every manager had £1M bonus each season to keep us there. Potter had the same bonus clause but Cooper was the first manager not yo have it. Fact or rumour?
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:00 - Oct 12 with 1042 viewsswan65split

I see our old mate from down the road...Colin has had a say about the game.
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:18 - Oct 12 with 1035 viewsBadlands

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 17:45 - Oct 11 by STID2017

Exactly.
That statement says it all.
He will fall out of favour with the fans at Forest when they wake up and realise that he and Tatey are not Clough and Taylor reborn.
What a kick in the teeth for the club that gave him his start in league management.
How any Swans fans can defend that is beyond me, but sure some will.


Some defend him because it fits their agenda.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:25 - Oct 12 with 1014 viewsDr_Parnassus

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:18 - Oct 12 by Badlands

Some defend him because it fits their agenda.


It depends what is said.

Usually the stuff said about Cooper is ludicrously stupid, so defending common sense is always a good agenda to have.

Sometimes the criticisms are acceptable (didn’t like him, didn’t like his style of play etc).

But often he is defended because the attacks on him are so painfully stupid.

As for this specific thing, I’m unable to work out what he’s said here. Has he said he hasn’t been too bothered about contract situations in his past except one time?

Not sure why that’s so offensive personally? Pretty sure it’s common knowledge he wasn’t happy with his contract here isn’t it? He isn’t saying anything we didn’t already know.

But correct me if I’ve read that quote wrong.
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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:36 - Oct 12 with 998 viewsKeithHaynes

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:25 - Oct 12 by Dr_Parnassus

It depends what is said.

Usually the stuff said about Cooper is ludicrously stupid, so defending common sense is always a good agenda to have.

Sometimes the criticisms are acceptable (didn’t like him, didn’t like his style of play etc).

But often he is defended because the attacks on him are so painfully stupid.

As for this specific thing, I’m unable to work out what he’s said here. Has he said he hasn’t been too bothered about contract situations in his past except one time?

Not sure why that’s so offensive personally? Pretty sure it’s common knowledge he wasn’t happy with his contract here isn’t it? He isn’t saying anything we didn’t already know.

But correct me if I’ve read that quote wrong.
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I don’t believe anything offensive has been reported.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:51 - Oct 12 with 968 viewsDr_Parnassus

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 11:36 - Oct 12 by KeithHaynes

I don’t believe anything offensive has been reported.


Some appear offended though.

“And some wonder why he is disliked by so many Swansea supporters.”

“What a kick in the teeth for the club that gave him his start in league management.
How any Swans fans can defend that is beyond me, but sure some will.”

Struggling to see the problem with what he said to garner such responses like the above. Unless I’m missing something.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 14:08 - Oct 12 with 895 viewsReslovenSwan1

He stated that his personal rewards were not the driving force of his job. He is now extremely generously paid and can afford to say this. With a multi million pound deal agreed for a few years he is in clover.

He can afford to say under these circumstances "details of may deal are not a big deal for me" .
At Swansea he was on modest terms and wanted a big pay rise for two play offs. Sadly it was in Covid and the rewards to the club were less than usual.

He did say "never been" focussed on personal rewards. He did demand perhaps a big pay rise at Swansea and corrected himself with the line "well only once". This would avoid a text from Julian W with a raised eyebrow emogi.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 01:03 - Oct 13 with 720 viewsDr_Parnassus

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 14:08 - Oct 12 by ReslovenSwan1

He stated that his personal rewards were not the driving force of his job. He is now extremely generously paid and can afford to say this. With a multi million pound deal agreed for a few years he is in clover.

He can afford to say under these circumstances "details of may deal are not a big deal for me" .
At Swansea he was on modest terms and wanted a big pay rise for two play offs. Sadly it was in Covid and the rewards to the club were less than usual.

He did say "never been" focussed on personal rewards. He did demand perhaps a big pay rise at Swansea and corrected himself with the line "well only once". This would avoid a text from Julian W with a raised eyebrow emogi.


That’s how I read it too, seemed a pretty fair and honest appraisal of the situation in his career thus far.

How he was treated after back to back play offs was quite ridiculous, especially in January, but also when he wanted an improved contract after continuing to improve himself and then finally how they handled the interest in him, demanding such high compensation.

You can certainly see why relationships broke down at board room level. But I just don’t understand the constant negativity towards the bloke. Seems a nice man to me and only raised our profile when he was here as a place to develop top young players, something that is vital on a championship budget as Rodgers found being able to bring in players from Chelsea.

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What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 07:46 - Oct 13 with 667 viewsSirjohnalot

What was that all about Steve Cooper ? Post match comment remains a mystery on 01:03 - Oct 13 by Dr_Parnassus

That’s how I read it too, seemed a pretty fair and honest appraisal of the situation in his career thus far.

How he was treated after back to back play offs was quite ridiculous, especially in January, but also when he wanted an improved contract after continuing to improve himself and then finally how they handled the interest in him, demanding such high compensation.

You can certainly see why relationships broke down at board room level. But I just don’t understand the constant negativity towards the bloke. Seems a nice man to me and only raised our profile when he was here as a place to develop top young players, something that is vital on a championship budget as Rodgers found being able to bring in players from Chelsea.


I agree. It needs to be seen in the context of someone doing a job. It’s not personal, it’s his career.
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