| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover 10:36 - Feb 26 with 5636 views | sw02sea |
I’ve raised this issue a few times over the years, so I’m well used to what will be the usual abuse thrown at the suggestion.
“Greedy barstewards, sold the Trust down the river, bla Dee bla. “
So, a simple question.
Are you peed off enough with the present situation ie. The Yanks, Winter, Martin and his never ending back room staff, plus the “Dominating” walking football style, to go “Back to the future” if the aforementioned duo + a consortium came up with a plan?
(Better than PLAN A ? 😗)
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 10:42 - Feb 26 with 3270 views | Whiterockin |
I've felt for the last couple of months that Morgan would be the next owner, eventually father and son. |  | | |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 10:43 - Feb 26 with 3280 views | KeithHaynes |
Me and you could run a football club on what it earns 😉
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 11:36 - Feb 26 with 3200 views | OptimisticJack |
I have been very critical of them in the past. Not for selling out but for the manner that they did it.
However in answer to your question -
Absolutely yes. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:02 - Feb 26 with 3146 views | max936 |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 11:36 - Feb 26 by OptimisticJack |
I have been very critical of them in the past. Not for selling out but for the manner that they did it.
However in answer to your question -
Absolutely yes. |
Dear me you are easily swayed, its a NEVER ever again for me. |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:09 - Feb 26 with 3141 views | STID2017 |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:02 - Feb 26 by max936 |
Dear me you are easily swayed, its a NEVER ever again for me. |
After 7 years of these owners I would prefer Morgan and son, Jenkins and a consortium.
Absolutely.
Carry on the way we are going and I really fear for our future. |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:11 - Feb 26 with 3132 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 10:42 - Feb 26 by Whiterockin |
I've felt for the last couple of months that Morgan would be the next owner, eventually father and son. |
Their net worth would make it impossible.
On their own that is *
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:16 - Feb 26 with 3116 views | Badlands |
You open by saying you know what the reaction will be … you are correct … so why bother starting yet another thread? |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:33 - Feb 26 with 3078 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:02 - Feb 26 by max936 |
Dear me you are easily swayed, its a NEVER ever again for me. |
Yes for me life is to short for grudges. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:37 - Feb 26 with 3072 views | sw02sea |
Got any better ideas of how to get rid of the whole shitshow we have at the minute ??? | | | |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:41 - Feb 26 with 3063 views | 1983 |
Can't see those coming back anytime soon football is forever changing even since they left, they took on the club and fair do's to them for doing that, they put in their own cash along with a few others but the seeds they planted created a big fat money tree which in all honesty they didn't expect but then greed took over...the rest is history |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:57 - Feb 26 with 3034 views | Dr_Winston |
Say for arguments sake someone did take over. What would people expect them to do exactly?
FFP would prevent the kind of spending that people are whining for, even if Morgan could afford it, which he clearly couldn't if that £40m figure is true. The best we could hope for is ownership that tries to maintain the club financially, which we already have. |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:14 - Feb 26 with 3011 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:57 - Feb 26 by Dr_Winston |
Say for arguments sake someone did take over. What would people expect them to do exactly?
FFP would prevent the kind of spending that people are whining for, even if Morgan could afford it, which he clearly couldn't if that £40m figure is true. The best we could hope for is ownership that tries to maintain the club financially, which we already have. |
Yes needs to be sustainable would be nice to have owners who give the impression they care about the club.
The current owners keep us ticking along but have little to no affinity for us really.
If they could sell they would. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:17 - Feb 26 with 3000 views | magicdaps10 |
They turned down over 400M from one of the big boys to buy them out.
Think the value has since grown again.
He has no interest in the Swans presently. |  |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:21 - Feb 26 with 2984 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:17 - Feb 26 by magicdaps10 |
They turned down over 400M from one of the big boys to buy them out.
Think the value has since grown again.
He has no interest in the Swans presently. |
Who turned 400m down lost me now. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:22 - Feb 26 with 2970 views | Whiterockin |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:17 - Feb 26 by magicdaps10 |
They turned down over 400M from one of the big boys to buy them out.
Think the value has since grown again.
He has no interest in the Swans presently. |
Presently is the key word, I posted eventually, so long term a possibility. | | | |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:24 - Feb 26 with 2970 views | STID2017 |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 12:57 - Feb 26 by Dr_Winston |
Say for arguments sake someone did take over. What would people expect them to do exactly?
FFP would prevent the kind of spending that people are whining for, even if Morgan could afford it, which he clearly couldn't if that £40m figure is true. The best we could hope for is ownership that tries to maintain the club financially, which we already have. |
Surely when a club hasn't enough money to make tough decisions regarding their manager and are not seen within 3,000 miles of us, that isn't what you class as well run ?
I know there has been much debate on that recently | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:25 - Feb 26 with 2964 views | Whiterockin |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:21 - Feb 26 by guthrieintherain |
Who turned 400m down lost me now. |
Charlie Morgan and Jackson Quinn for Au Vodka. | | | |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:33 - Feb 26 with 2951 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:25 - Feb 26 by Whiterockin |
Charlie Morgan and Jackson Quinn for Au Vodka. |
Fair play to him come on a long way since feigning injury and getting Hazzard sent off  | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:34 - Feb 26 with 2950 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:24 - Feb 26 by STID2017 |
Surely when a club hasn't enough money to make tough decisions regarding their manager and are not seen within 3,000 miles of us, that isn't what you class as well run ?
I know there has been much debate on that recently |
Who says that they don't have enough money to sack Martin? As far as I'm aware that's basically a total assumption that everyone is treating as fact.
Given that they were apparently prepared to pay Karlan Grant £20k a week until the end of the season and now we don't have to it seems that the decision to stick with Russy at present is far from financial. More likely they just can't agree on what to do. Silverstein is said to rate him highly.
The distance thing is almost totally irrelevant. Winter is paid to run the club from day to day. Whether the owners are physically present or on the end of a phone makes little difference. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:47 - Feb 26 with 2919 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:34 - Feb 26 by Dr_Winston |
Who says that they don't have enough money to sack Martin? As far as I'm aware that's basically a total assumption that everyone is treating as fact.
Given that they were apparently prepared to pay Karlan Grant £20k a week until the end of the season and now we don't have to it seems that the decision to stick with Russy at present is far from financial. More likely they just can't agree on what to do. Silverstein is said to rate him highly.
The distance thing is almost totally irrelevant. Winter is paid to run the club from day to day. Whether the owners are physically present or on the end of a phone makes little difference. |
I think it’s more of a case of not wanting to spend the money to sack him.
And then spending more money for a new coaching team.
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:57 - Feb 26 with 2884 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:47 - Feb 26 by KeithHaynes |
I think it’s more of a case of not wanting to spend the money to sack him.
And then spending more money for a new coaching team.
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Yes we need the side strenghthening that has to be the priority in the summer.
Hopefully it will be because if we slide any further will be in for a relegation battle. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 16:12 - Feb 26 with 2786 views | STID2017 |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 13:34 - Feb 26 by Dr_Winston |
Who says that they don't have enough money to sack Martin? As far as I'm aware that's basically a total assumption that everyone is treating as fact.
Given that they were apparently prepared to pay Karlan Grant £20k a week until the end of the season and now we don't have to it seems that the decision to stick with Russy at present is far from financial. More likely they just can't agree on what to do. Silverstein is said to rate him highly.
The distance thing is almost totally irrelevant. Winter is paid to run the club from day to day. Whether the owners are physically present or on the end of a phone makes little difference. |
Can anyone name any club ( possibly bar the famous Alex Ferguson at Man Utd story) who would give their manager as much grace ?
What reason if not finances would you give for them still persevering with him ? | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 16:46 - Feb 26 with 2719 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 16:12 - Feb 26 by STID2017 |
Can anyone name any club ( possibly bar the famous Alex Ferguson at Man Utd story) who would give their manager as much grace ?
What reason if not finances would you give for them still persevering with him ? |
I've already given you a reason in the very post you quoted.
I'm not saying that I disagree with you generally. I'd have sacked him weeks ago. I'm just saying that given what we know, the club failing to do so because of a lack of money makes a lot less sense than several other possibilities. | |
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| Jenkins & Martin / Consortium Takeover on 17:03 - Feb 26 with 2682 views | KeithHaynes |
That’s nothing in the football league even.
It’s ridiculous to even think half of that is of any value.
His dad shied away from fronting the Swans even during the good times. Fear of failure and retention of their wealth will always come first.
BTW I don’t blame them one bit.
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