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Kilvey Hill Sky line project 14:10 - Mar 7 with 1764 viewsBoundy

Why are we the Swansea tax payer paying atm 10million towards the cable car and associated "attractions" , I believe its a private enterprise so does it mean we are shareholders in the New Zealand based company .Why are we taking the risk and not the existing shareholders of Skline Enterprises.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:04 - Mar 7 with 1728 viewsGwyn737

The money from the council is repayable.

I’m gueslng the New Zealand based company are investing £35 million into the area as there wasn’t a Welsh based company who would or could.
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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:34 - Mar 7 with 1709 viewsReslovenSwan1

I am all for these things. Cable car and tram to Mumbles. UK is fabulously rich only the working classes unemployed and Government that has no money.

I do not know much about this scheme but it is an attraction. Is it a transport thing or a Tourist thing?

Attractions help tourism. I went last year to Bosnia and went up one in Sarajevo. No snow unfortunately but something to do.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 17:31 - Mar 7 with 1677 viewsunion_jack

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:34 - Mar 7 by ReslovenSwan1

I am all for these things. Cable car and tram to Mumbles. UK is fabulously rich only the working classes unemployed and Government that has no money.

I do not know much about this scheme but it is an attraction. Is it a transport thing or a Tourist thing?

Attractions help tourism. I went last year to Bosnia and went up one in Sarajevo. No snow unfortunately but something to do.


Swansea will never be able to survive as a centre of excellence for shopping that’s a fact. Fewer and fewer places will in the future. But we have natural beauty in the area which needs to be exploited to the full. I’m for this scheme as well and would love to see a tram from the centre to Mumbles. Probably not in my lifetime.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 18:11 - Mar 7 with 1637 viewsReslovenSwan1

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 17:31 - Mar 7 by union_jack

Swansea will never be able to survive as a centre of excellence for shopping that’s a fact. Fewer and fewer places will in the future. But we have natural beauty in the area which needs to be exploited to the full. I’m for this scheme as well and would love to see a tram from the centre to Mumbles. Probably not in my lifetime.


The Mumble tram would have the benefit of f Students going back and fore to lectures in the middle of the day in decent numbers if priced properly . The money is about the place and just needs a 5% per annum return.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 18:56 - Mar 7 with 1614 viewsWhiterockin

Hopefully the council have inserted clauses in the contract that grants are only given when physical targets have been completed, unlike the Senedd and the race track. The mumbles train is only a pipe dream as the comercial developments current and proposed make it a non starter.
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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 19:43 - Mar 7 with 1569 viewsBoundy

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:04 - Mar 7 by Gwyn737

The money from the council is repayable.

I’m gueslng the New Zealand based company are investing £35 million into the area as there wasn’t a Welsh based company who would or could.


I do hope you're correct but when Companies go bust they tend not to pay back loans if that's what it is and why would they need at the moment over 10 million ( that has gone up from the original loan which was half that figure ) of someone else's money if they're investing £35 million. People and politicians are rightly concerned especially when you read that the business plan had gone through the Welsh Government and been “fully tested”, would that be fully tested like the many other failed projects which have either fallen at the first fence of failed at conception stage

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:04 - Mar 8 with 1419 viewsWhiterockin

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 18:11 - Mar 7 by ReslovenSwan1

The Mumble tram would have the benefit of f Students going back and fore to lectures in the middle of the day in decent numbers if priced properly . The money is about the place and just needs a 5% per annum return.


The Unibus is free for u21s and £1 a trip with a pass for other students. Linking the student village in Hendrefoilan, the singleton campus, the city centre student accommodation, plus high st accommodation and rail network, new cut student accommodation and fabian way campus. Any seafront train/tram would be pointless for students.
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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:38 - Mar 8 with 1391 viewsDemitrius

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:04 - Mar 8 by Whiterockin

The Unibus is free for u21s and £1 a trip with a pass for other students. Linking the student village in Hendrefoilan, the singleton campus, the city centre student accommodation, plus high st accommodation and rail network, new cut student accommodation and fabian way campus. Any seafront train/tram would be pointless for students.


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All we had back in my youth were D Coaches those cream colored Charabancs and we didn't even have those for a while when they were used to transport the Scum from the station to the Vetch and they smashed them up in '91 !

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 19:47 - Mar 8 with 1327 viewsonehunglow

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:38 - Mar 8 by Demitrius

They don't know they're born !

All we had back in my youth were D Coaches those cream colored Charabancs and we didn't even have those for a while when they were used to transport the Scum from the station to the Vetch and they smashed them up in '91 !

https://www.bing.com/videos/ri

Indie night at Cinderellas used to be 50p on a Wed and student or not you could get the bus from the campus and back - very handy and cheaper than a taxi home


Only coach I went on was Sunday school trips to Merthyr Mawr and Porthcawl

Hating them

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 01:46 - Mar 9 with 1253 viewsRobbie

Neath / Port Talbot myself as a Council Tax Payer , issues here are roads are a minefield to navigate , botch patch up jobs which fall apart after a few days of traffic , prorities first .

Is that ski slope behind Morrisons still there , a Private Enterprise which ran out of steam and attendance maybe , skiing in Swansea onto a loser from the off .

The views from the top of Kilvey Hill are outstanding I agree , but nothing up there is worth a cable car ride for the masses .

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 17:42 - Mar 9 with 1151 viewsReslovenSwan1

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 16:04 - Mar 8 by Whiterockin

The Unibus is free for u21s and £1 a trip with a pass for other students. Linking the student village in Hendrefoilan, the singleton campus, the city centre student accommodation, plus high st accommodation and rail network, new cut student accommodation and fabian way campus. Any seafront train/tram would be pointless for students.


All these things are transitory. The objective would be to get some cashflow to justify the investment.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 18:19 - Mar 9 with 1130 viewsWhiterockin

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 17:42 - Mar 9 by ReslovenSwan1

All these things are transitory. The objective would be to get some cashflow to justify the investment.


Which has proved to be non existent for the last 60 years and probably the next 60. I travelled regularly on the previous version to and from Swansea, times have changed dramatically and it would only be a vanity project now so confined to the annals of history.
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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 21:02 - Mar 9 with 1084 viewsReslovenSwan1

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 18:19 - Mar 9 by Whiterockin

Which has proved to be non existent for the last 60 years and probably the next 60. I travelled regularly on the previous version to and from Swansea, times have changed dramatically and it would only be a vanity project now so confined to the annals of history.


Vanity projects are alive and well and most in London. All relating to the Olympics. Lets hope West Ham get relegated.

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Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 21:31 - Mar 9 with 1070 viewsWhiterockin

Kilvey Hill Sky line project on 21:02 - Mar 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Vanity projects are alive and well and most in London. All relating to the Olympics. Lets hope West Ham get relegated.


As I said it hasn't happened in 60 years when it was more practical, it won't happen now. Unless of course the Senedd paid for it as a vanity project like the government did for the Olympics, but I for one hope they spend our money on more important things unlike Cardiff Airport.
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