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Thoughts ? 09:49 - Apr 8 with 1430 viewsKeithHaynes

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Thoughts ? on 10:11 - Apr 8 with 1401 viewsunion_jack

I think the jail sentence is over the top. Suspended maybe but custodial?

You’ll know better than most that the blues and twos are not a licence to drive anyway you want but he was responding to an emergency where every second counts.

Also, maybe the family’s wishes that jail time was not necessary could have been taken into account.

A sad case all round.

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Thoughts ? on 10:38 - Apr 8 with 1390 viewsDemitrius

A long time poster from the early days of Phil's site who I haven't seen for many years now trained to be a police driving instructor down on the South Coast. It's a rigourous and thorough process as you would expect.

A very tragic case but a lengthy jail sentence?

I cannot understand sentencing in this country any more it's crazy when they let actual paedos and other sex offenders off with suspended sentences etc...

This country is rudderless and spineless.

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Thoughts ? on 10:44 - Apr 8 with 1387 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

When you look at his record of public service and the circumstances surrounding the call he was on, then losing his job and a suspended sentence would seem to be sufficient.

That said we lock people up for posting on social media.

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Thoughts ? on 13:35 - Apr 8 with 1313 viewsonehunglow

Nothing g less than disgusting
We see scum driving without a licence no tax no insurance and drugged killing people and serving two years inside
Frankly , why do police bother
What to do now in emergencies ? Wait for lights to turn green when a baby is dying
Police officers need to hand in their advanced authority
As one who’s driven a high speed police car on an urban area at three figures chasing armed robbers I was obviously lucky
This country disgusts me

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Thoughts ? on 13:43 - Apr 8 with 1306 viewsonehunglow

Thoughts ? on 10:38 - Apr 8 by Demitrius

A long time poster from the early days of Phil's site who I haven't seen for many years now trained to be a police driving instructor down on the South Coast. It's a rigourous and thorough process as you would expect.

A very tragic case but a lengthy jail sentence?

I cannot understand sentencing in this country any more it's crazy when they let actual paedos and other sex offenders off with suspended sentences etc...

This country is rudderless and spineless.


We need a national inquiry into sentencing which is now past ludicrous

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Thoughts ? on 17:51 - Apr 8 with 1234 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Thoughts ? on 13:43 - Apr 8 by onehunglow

We need a national inquiry into sentencing which is now past ludicrous


There seems to be more variation and interpretation by judges these days than I can remember.

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Thoughts ? on 18:44 - Apr 8 with 1178 viewsAnotherJohn

It seems to me that the rule-based order that the present government seem determined to defend is tougher when it comes to certain areas of public service work than to mundane criminal behaviour. Police officers involved in chases, firearms officers and UK military service personnel have all been in the dock in the last few years and sometimes received harsh sentences. The Government and sections of the judiciary probably see this as a key frontline in demonstrating the rule of law, but I can't help wondering if in the eyes of the public it actually erodes confidence in the social fabric. It is almost as though there is a performative aspect to these judgments.
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Thoughts ? on 18:54 - Apr 8 with 1164 viewsBoundy

What other government/legal system ( yes they are linked) prosecutes its own soldiers but gives a free pass to those who were causing death and misery to whom the military were trying to protect , once you answer that then you’ll know why this poor copper was treated this way .

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Thoughts ? on 18:58 - Apr 8 with 1151 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Thoughts ? on 18:54 - Apr 8 by Boundy

What other government/legal system ( yes they are linked) prosecutes its own soldiers but gives a free pass to those who were causing death and misery to whom the military were trying to protect , once you answer that then you’ll know why this poor copper was treated this way .


A fair point.

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Thoughts ? on 19:28 - Apr 8 with 1119 viewsmax936

Its a difficult one to judge, but given the grieving families comments and his remorse and considering the emergency he was going to, its a tough sentence.
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Thoughts ? on 20:14 - Apr 8 with 1089 viewsDr_Winston

Thoughts ? on 18:54 - Apr 8 by Boundy

What other government/legal system ( yes they are linked) prosecutes its own soldiers but gives a free pass to those who were causing death and misery to whom the military were trying to protect , once you answer that then you’ll know why this poor copper was treated this way .


The judicial system is rotten. Chock full of people who shouldn't be there. The type of prosecutor and judge who would see this officer prosecuted and jailed yet release sex offenders because they "don't understand that it's a crime in the UK".

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Thoughts ? on 20:52 - Apr 8 with 1069 viewsDemitrius

Thoughts ? on 13:43 - Apr 8 by onehunglow

We need a national inquiry into sentencing which is now past ludicrous


completely agree...

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Thoughts ? on 21:09 - Apr 8 with 1054 viewsScotia

Thoughts ? on 20:52 - Apr 8 by Demitrius

completely agree...


And more prison places. A lot more.
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Thoughts ? on 22:08 - Apr 8 with 1011 viewsGwyn737

My first reaction is it seems to be a very unfortunate and sad accident and should have been treated as such.
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Thoughts ? on 23:18 - Apr 8 with 992 viewsonehunglow

Thoughts ? on 21:09 - Apr 8 by Scotia

And more prison places. A lot more.


Well , we either follow scum out hoping they don’t offend or we keep them o
Onside de
Us or them
We either look after ourselves and let the rats rule

Nobody should be on the streets with a 4 “ Knife nor a firearm
No excuses whatsoever
Minimum 10 years sentence

Drive a car whilst otl and car gets confiscated

Also pride bets to serve full term everytime
Good behaviour should be a given

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