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The fairy tale of New York 20:43 - Dec 1 with 3643 viewsloftboy

Heard it on the radio today and noticed they changed the words from “ cheap lousy fagg*t” to “you’re cheap and you’re haggered “. I totally understand why this has been done but how did they do it seeing as Kirsty McCall has been dead for a few years.?

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The fairy tale of New York on 22:35 - Dec 1 with 2344 viewsTacticalR

What's the point of rewriting history?

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The fairy tale of New York on 22:41 - Dec 1 with 2318 viewsconnell10

Well to honest I cant understand why they have changed the lyrics.

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The fairy tale of New York on 23:14 - Dec 1 with 2259 viewsBucksRanger

This ain't rock'n'roll, this is logocide
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The fairy tale of New York on 00:23 - Dec 2 with 2206 viewsCLAREMAN1995

This is just another example of the PC world gone mad and it shows no sign of letting up soon.Any immigrant in the US can relate to this incredible song not just the irish contingent its crosses all divides IMO.I have written instructions left that its played at my funeral hopefully the priest wont be too angry at the bad words .I will have to make a change saying I want the original lyrics now.
I read an article a few months ago that people close to Kristy McCall thinks she was the victim of foul play not a drowning .A beautiful voice silenced way too young RIP
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The fairy tale of New York on 01:12 - Dec 2 with 2171 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Madness. If this particular radio station are so sensitive can they just not play the song instead of butchering the lyrics?
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The fairy tale of New York on 02:24 - Dec 2 with 2159 viewsFredManRave

If I was a maggot I'd be up in arms.

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The fairy tale of New York on 03:59 - Dec 2 with 2134 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Coincidently Shane McGowen was on the Radio the other day talking about this. He fully endorsed the change and said that the 30 year old song was out of date but that it’s original meaning wasn’t meant to be offensive. He said he’d not been put under any pressure by anyone to change it and that it was all a storm in a teacup. Nice of him.
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The fairy tale of New York on 06:09 - Dec 2 with 2094 viewsLblock

We’ve gone haven’t we? There’s no coming back from this madness

I’m surprised the lyrics weren’t changed to “you’re cheap and gender fluid”

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The fairy tale of New York on 06:10 - Dec 2 with 2095 viewsWatford_Ranger

If it’s before 9pm I sing “I love Dianne Abbott”.
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The fairy tale of New York on 08:17 - Dec 2 with 1926 viewsTheChef

On behalf of fagg0ts and other meat-based dumpling products I for one am delighted that this persecution has come to an end.

We have never been, nor will ever be, cheap and lousy.
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The fairy tale of New York on 08:20 - Dec 2 with 1909 viewsconnell10

The fairy tale of New York on 03:59 - Dec 2 by BazzaInTheLoft

Coincidently Shane McGowen was on the Radio the other day talking about this. He fully endorsed the change and said that the 30 year old song was out of date but that it’s original meaning wasn’t meant to be offensive. He said he’d not been put under any pressure by anyone to change it and that it was all a storm in a teacup. Nice of him.


Probably Shane wants more money from royalties.

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The fairy tale of New York on 08:43 - Dec 2 with 1860 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Good job Anti-Nowhere league's 'So what' is never played on the radio, they'd have to re-write the whole song.


"And I've f***** a sheep, I've f***** a goat
I rammed my c*** right down its throat.....

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The fairy tale of New York on 09:21 - Dec 2 with 1794 viewsElHoop

The fairy tale of New York on 08:20 - Dec 2 by connell10

Probably Shane wants more money from royalties.


It wasn't just written by Shane, although he did write the words:

https://inews.co.uk/culture/music/pogues-fairytale-new-york-30-co-writer-jem-fin

It's like an annuity for them so I don't blame them for selling a few shares in sl@ts and f@ggots or whatever. I'd always play the original though.

To get it into perspective this site wouldn't let me type the words either.
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The fairy tale of New York on 09:29 - Dec 2 with 1777 viewsCamberleyR

I'm sure I've read somewhere that in Ireland historically a f@ggott was a slang term for a lazy, feckless person. Given the Irish roots of The Pogues it seems plausible and that it wasn't meant the other way.
Brian Mac may be able to confirm?
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The fairy tale of New York on 10:16 - Dec 2 with 1676 viewsenfieldargh

The boys from the NYPD choir were singing Galway Bay

The NYPD doesnt have a choir

not a lot of people know that

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The fairy tale of New York on 10:34 - Dec 2 with 1639 viewsCroydonCaptJack

The fairy tale of New York on 08:43 - Dec 2 by Metallica_Hoop

Good job Anti-Nowhere league's 'So what' is never played on the radio, they'd have to re-write the whole song.


"And I've f***** a sheep, I've f***** a goat
I rammed my c*** right down its throat.....


''I've been here, and I've been there and I've been every fuc**ng where, so what'

B side of Street of London unless I am mistaken?
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The fairy tale of New York on 10:43 - Dec 2 with 1615 viewsMetallica_Hoop

The fairy tale of New York on 10:34 - Dec 2 by CroydonCaptJack

''I've been here, and I've been there and I've been every fuc**ng where, so what'

B side of Street of London unless I am mistaken?


I think your knowledge is better than mine. I know the original but know the song mostly because Metallica famously covered it.

There is a great vid from 92/3ish where 'Animal' joins them on stage at Earls court.
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The fairy tale of New York on 15:36 - Dec 2 with 1356 viewskensalriser

If Shane McGowan wanted to change it, it's his prerogative. Pretty obvious why he wanted to, is fagg*t really any more acceptable than n*gger?

Think Loftboy's question is the more interesting point!

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The fairy tale of New York on 16:17 - Dec 2 with 1309 viewssmegma

The fairy tale of New York on 08:43 - Dec 2 by Metallica_Hoop

Good job Anti-Nowhere league's 'So what' is never played on the radio, they'd have to re-write the whole song.


"And I've f***** a sheep, I've f***** a goat
I rammed my c*** right down its throat.....


Ditto 'so what!' by Crass.

"So what if Jesus died on the cross, so what about the fecker, I don't give a toss". Should have been the Christmas No.1 every year for the last 35 years.
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The fairy tale of New York on 16:43 - Dec 2 with 1283 viewsconnell10

The fairy tale of New York on 15:36 - Dec 2 by kensalriser

If Shane McGowan wanted to change it, it's his prerogative. Pretty obvious why he wanted to, is fagg*t really any more acceptable than n*gger?

Think Loftboy's question is the more interesting point!


Wow just wow I'm staggered by that statement!!

AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!!
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The fairy tale of New York on 16:48 - Dec 2 with 1272 viewsconnell10

The fairy tale of New York on 16:43 - Dec 2 by connell10

Wow just wow I'm staggered by that statement!!


Not haggard.

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The fairy tale of New York on 17:40 - Dec 2 with 1214 viewsWatfordR

The fairy tale of New York on 10:16 - Dec 2 by enfieldargh

The boys from the NYPD choir were singing Galway Bay

The NYPD doesnt have a choir

not a lot of people know that


Not only do they not have a choir, but the choir filmed in the video didn't know the words to Galway Bay, so they were filmed singing "M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E".

Even less people know that
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The fairy tale of New York on 21:28 - Dec 2 with 1094 viewsBoston

The fairy tale of New York on 03:59 - Dec 2 by BazzaInTheLoft

Coincidently Shane McGowen was on the Radio the other day talking about this. He fully endorsed the change and said that the 30 year old song was out of date but that it’s original meaning wasn’t meant to be offensive. He said he’d not been put under any pressure by anyone to change it and that it was all a storm in a teacup. Nice of him.


Now he’s made his millions, who cares, eh?

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The fairy tale of New York on 22:18 - Dec 2 with 1063 viewsBrianMcCarthy

The fairy tale of New York on 09:29 - Dec 2 by CamberleyR

I'm sure I've read somewhere that in Ireland historically a f@ggott was a slang term for a lazy, feckless person. Given the Irish roots of The Pogues it seems plausible and that it wasn't meant the other way.
Brian Mac may be able to confirm?
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Maybe, Camberley, though I've never heard it used in that context.

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The fairy tale of New York on 04:03 - Dec 3 with 989 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Apparently 'fagg*t' is an old Irish slang word for a lazy person or a waster as well as a historical Americanism for an unpleasant or contemptible woman. I was an 80s child (when the track was recorded) and to my memory the term referred to a male homosexual. That said it just doesn't make sense why a straight male singer and straight female counterpart would hurl homophobic insults at each other.
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