| Wombles v mk 23:30 - Aug 13 with 4866 views | stowmarketrange |
After the last meeting between the two teams in London a couple of years ago,the EFL charged Wimbledon for not putting mk’s name on the programme or scoreboard.They dropped the charges after mediation between the 2 clubs.
For tonight’s game Wimbledon chose not to issue a programme,and also the scoreboard was broken and didn’t work.A bit more mediation needed I think.
Shame franchise Utd won on penalties though. |  | | |  |
| Wombles v mk on 17:18 - Aug 14 with 1324 views | Clive_Anderson |
| Wombles v mk on 16:35 - Aug 14 by makaveli1882 |
Kingstonian FC took them in and AFC Wimbledon facked them out their own stadium for Chelsh1t under 23s and womens team.
Glass houses and all that, fck erm. |
They gave Kingstonian loads of money to buy the stadium, let them play there rent free for years and then gave them £1m when they moved out. |  | | |
| Wombles v mk on 17:21 - Aug 14 with 1309 views | DWQPR |
Living in MK you do see the community work that goes on by the club. The old Wimbledon was dying, first shafted by Sam Hammam and then by Charles Koppel(?), once they had moved to Selhurst Park they never stood a chance as tenants paying rent that was unsustainable on their crowds once they were relegated to the championship. There was nobody interested in buying the club other than Winkelman. If he hadn't then Wimbledon FC would have gone the same way as Maidstone, Accrington Stanley, Newport County and very nearly the likes of Middlesbrough and Charlton Athletic. AFC Wimbledon would have happened with or without Winkelman.
Winkelman's intervention prevented a club from dying and consequently the result is two football league clubs and soon to be two football league clubs playing in shiny new stadia. And two football league clubs providing valuable benefits to their communities. And for further information it is now official that the clubs date of formation was 2004, that they had no history before that and also the previous history of Wimbledon FC has been acknowledged to belong to AFC Wimbledon. MK Dons has never won the FA Cup, AFC Wimbledon has.
And for the record there are still a good number of Wimbledon FC supporters who followed the club to MK and have remained as supporters, obviously in the minority compared to the support of AFC Wimbledon but they do exist. Best of luck to both clubs, life is too short for such pettiness especially when the real villains of the peace were Hamman and Koppel.
And as far as Winkelman's presentation at the Adelaide was concerned, well, we might have dodged a bullet but lets also remember who we ended up with, Paladini, who then was on the brink of re-mortgaging HQ to ABC Loans, when at the last minute our knight in shining armour rode into town Briatori. How life has been so settled for the R's since that time. We were a gnats whisker away from losing our ground to a Panamanian investment company that would have more than likely have turned it into housing. | |
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| Wombles v mk on 18:15 - Aug 14 with 1251 views | Rangersw12 |
| Wombles v mk on 17:15 - Aug 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
For those chirping on about shit supporters letting clubs die, we only got 5k and a bit last night.
Doesn't give any priveteer the right to swoop in and steal a club because it's poorly supported.
'I'm alright Jack' won't cut it. Could be us and nearly was. [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 17:20]
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I don't really see what our crowd for a league cup 1st round game has got to do with anything ?
Maybe if they actually tried to save the club they could of done it , where is your faux outrage for Kingstonian ? | | | |
| Wombles v mk on 18:56 - Aug 14 with 1225 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Wombles v mk on 18:15 - Aug 14 by Rangersw12 |
I don't really see what our crowd for a league cup 1st round game has got to do with anything ?
Maybe if they actually tried to save the club they could of done it , where is your faux outrage for Kingstonian ? |
Incomparable situations.
Kingstonian still exist for starters.
They play six miles away from their former ground too, and have since been promoted (twice I think) partly because of the finance from the ground move.
That said, if all this was imposed on Kingstonian fans, which I can find no evidence of, then yeah it’s a shameful show by AFC Wimbledon.
It is possible to be critical of two things at once. |  | | |
| Wombles v mk on 19:36 - Aug 14 with 1176 views | Hunterhoop |
| Wombles v mk on 17:18 - Aug 14 by Clive_Anderson |
They gave Kingstonian loads of money to buy the stadium, let them play there rent free for years and then gave them £1m when they moved out. |
Clive, as someone who knows a load of Ks fans, who’ve put money into the club, I’m pretty sure that is incorrect. Wimbledon fcked them. Ks let Wimbledon play rent free when they set up. Wimbledon forced Ks to pay rent.
They also bought the club for a knock down fee when Ks were in the financial sh*t. They took advantage. And if I remember correctly they actually bought the ground from the chairman, who had passed ownership to himself and who proceeded to run off with most of the cash.
They then set about charging rent immediately and started changing the whole ground. And then they turfed Ks out. They fcked them. [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 19:39]
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| Wombles v mk on 19:38 - Aug 14 with 1175 views | Hunterhoop |
| Wombles v mk on 18:56 - Aug 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Incomparable situations.
Kingstonian still exist for starters.
They play six miles away from their former ground too, and have since been promoted (twice I think) partly because of the finance from the ground move.
That said, if all this was imposed on Kingstonian fans, which I can find no evidence of, then yeah it’s a shameful show by AFC Wimbledon.
It is possible to be critical of two things at once. |
Again pretty sure that’s all inaccurate. Not promoted twice since it happened. I don’t think they’ve promoted at all since it happened. They didn’t survive on the proceeds from the ground. AFC deliberately bought from an asset stripper (former Ks chairman) for a knock down price. They then charged rent rather than return Ks favour when they first set up.
This isn’t to say AFC are evil, but they are certainly no saints. [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 19:40]
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| Wombles v mk on 20:15 - Aug 14 with 1143 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Wombles v mk on 19:38 - Aug 14 by Hunterhoop |
Again pretty sure that’s all inaccurate. Not promoted twice since it happened. I don’t think they’ve promoted at all since it happened. They didn’t survive on the proceeds from the ground. AFC deliberately bought from an asset stripper (former Ks chairman) for a knock down price. They then charged rent rather than return Ks favour when they first set up.
This isn’t to say AFC are evil, but they are certainly no saints. [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 19:40]
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They got promoted in 2008 and just missed out in 2014 when they finished second. My error.
Still they are one division higher than when AFC moved in. Bear in mind we have fans on this very site who say they would sell off OUR stadium for some short term cash!
Still, you can't put AFC in the same bracket as MKD in my opinion. One is literally created from the shitty creation of the other.
Kingstonian are still in their borough and actually exist! [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 20:16]
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| Wombles v mk on 21:16 - Aug 14 with 1088 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Wombles v mk on 16:22 - Aug 14 by stowmarketrange |
The football league is full of clubs with fans who despise their owners and what they’re doing to their clubs,but in most cases,the owners still cling on to power.
Blackpool,Charlton,Bury,Darlington,Hull And Newcastle have all been shafted by poor owners who would try to move them to the moon if it meant more money coming in.And as others have said,it could’ve been us playing in the ar@e end of nowhere.Would we have let it go by now if we’d had to rebuild as afc qpr? |
Would we have let it go by now if we’d had to rebuild as afc qpr?
I fuggin' hope not.
This has to be fought, and fought, and fought.
Otherwise some other life-sucking scum will try it again. |  |
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| Wombles v mk on 21:23 - Aug 14 with 1079 views | Hunterhoop |
| Wombles v mk on 20:15 - Aug 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
They got promoted in 2008 and just missed out in 2014 when they finished second. My error.
Still they are one division higher than when AFC moved in. Bear in mind we have fans on this very site who say they would sell off OUR stadium for some short term cash!
Still, you can't put AFC in the same bracket as MKD in my opinion. One is literally created from the shitty creation of the other.
Kingstonian are still in their borough and actually exist! [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 20:16]
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But no divisions higher since AFC bought the ground. And this is basically the lowest Ks have been for many a year in their history. They are a conference or league below conference side.
Not saying AFC are comparable to MK. But they have fcked over Ks, the club that helped them when they needed help. Poor behaviour in my view.
Ask any Ks fan, AFC have been bad for them. And they had to leave the borough and go and play in Leatherhead for two seasons I think when the sale happened. | | | |
| Wombles v mk on 21:56 - Aug 14 with 1052 views | CamberleyR |
| Wombles v mk on 19:36 - Aug 14 by Hunterhoop |
Clive, as someone who knows a load of Ks fans, who’ve put money into the club, I’m pretty sure that is incorrect. Wimbledon fcked them. Ks let Wimbledon play rent free when they set up. Wimbledon forced Ks to pay rent.
They also bought the club for a knock down fee when Ks were in the financial sh*t. They took advantage. And if I remember correctly they actually bought the ground from the chairman, who had passed ownership to himself and who proceeded to run off with most of the cash.
They then set about charging rent immediately and started changing the whole ground. And then they turfed Ks out. They fcked them. [Post edited 14 Aug 2019 19:39]
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That is a very extreme, one eyed point of view. There are two sides to every story. Maybe take a read of this article from a Kingstonian fan who doesn't see things in such black and white terms.
http://twohundredpercent.net/kingsmeadow-wimbledon-kingstonian-an-alternative-vi
Another viewpoint on the original deal for AFCW to play at Kingsmeadow:
http://twohundredpercent.net/wimbledons-return-the-future-of-kingstonian/
The new 25 year licence for Kingstonian to play at Kingsmeadow that was set up in 2008 when AFCW acquired some perimeter land around the stadium allowed them to play rent free the first ten years and then a peppercorn annual rent of £12,500 for the remainder, hardly the actions of a Rachman type landlord.
AFCW never actually owned Kingsmeadow either. The freehold is and always has been owned by the council. AFCW only owned the lease on the stadium which was sold on to the SW6 swamp dwellers.
Also the point Clive Anderson made above about Kingstonian getting £1m from the sale of the lease is correct. The money has been ringfenced for whenever KFC get a new stadium.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/25/kingstonian-kingsmeadow-lost-st |  |
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| Wombles v mk on 22:29 - Aug 14 with 1007 views | Juzzie |
| Wombles v mk on 17:21 - Aug 14 by DWQPR |
Living in MK you do see the community work that goes on by the club. The old Wimbledon was dying, first shafted by Sam Hammam and then by Charles Koppel(?), once they had moved to Selhurst Park they never stood a chance as tenants paying rent that was unsustainable on their crowds once they were relegated to the championship. There was nobody interested in buying the club other than Winkelman. If he hadn't then Wimbledon FC would have gone the same way as Maidstone, Accrington Stanley, Newport County and very nearly the likes of Middlesbrough and Charlton Athletic. AFC Wimbledon would have happened with or without Winkelman.
Winkelman's intervention prevented a club from dying and consequently the result is two football league clubs and soon to be two football league clubs playing in shiny new stadia. And two football league clubs providing valuable benefits to their communities. And for further information it is now official that the clubs date of formation was 2004, that they had no history before that and also the previous history of Wimbledon FC has been acknowledged to belong to AFC Wimbledon. MK Dons has never won the FA Cup, AFC Wimbledon has.
And for the record there are still a good number of Wimbledon FC supporters who followed the club to MK and have remained as supporters, obviously in the minority compared to the support of AFC Wimbledon but they do exist. Best of luck to both clubs, life is too short for such pettiness especially when the real villains of the peace were Hamman and Koppel.
And as far as Winkelman's presentation at the Adelaide was concerned, well, we might have dodged a bullet but lets also remember who we ended up with, Paladini, who then was on the brink of re-mortgaging HQ to ABC Loans, when at the last minute our knight in shining armour rode into town Briatori. How life has been so settled for the R's since that time. We were a gnats whisker away from losing our ground to a Panamanian investment company that would have more than likely have turned it into housing. |
Wimbledon FC did die though.
MK Dons officially formed in 2004 and have no claim to the FA Cup etc. They’re not Wimbledon, they’re a new club.
AFC Wimbledon formed in 2002 from scratch. No history, nothing. They are not the Wimbledon that were originally formed 1889 despite being allowed to have the FA Cup in their honours. They too are a new club.
The whole thing is a sorry mess that the authorities should he ashamed of. |  | | |
| Wombles v mk on 22:58 - Aug 14 with 961 views | CamberleyR |
| Wombles v mk on 17:21 - Aug 14 by DWQPR |
Living in MK you do see the community work that goes on by the club. The old Wimbledon was dying, first shafted by Sam Hammam and then by Charles Koppel(?), once they had moved to Selhurst Park they never stood a chance as tenants paying rent that was unsustainable on their crowds once they were relegated to the championship. There was nobody interested in buying the club other than Winkelman. If he hadn't then Wimbledon FC would have gone the same way as Maidstone, Accrington Stanley, Newport County and very nearly the likes of Middlesbrough and Charlton Athletic. AFC Wimbledon would have happened with or without Winkelman.
Winkelman's intervention prevented a club from dying and consequently the result is two football league clubs and soon to be two football league clubs playing in shiny new stadia. And two football league clubs providing valuable benefits to their communities. And for further information it is now official that the clubs date of formation was 2004, that they had no history before that and also the previous history of Wimbledon FC has been acknowledged to belong to AFC Wimbledon. MK Dons has never won the FA Cup, AFC Wimbledon has.
And for the record there are still a good number of Wimbledon FC supporters who followed the club to MK and have remained as supporters, obviously in the minority compared to the support of AFC Wimbledon but they do exist. Best of luck to both clubs, life is too short for such pettiness especially when the real villains of the peace were Hamman and Koppel.
And as far as Winkelman's presentation at the Adelaide was concerned, well, we might have dodged a bullet but lets also remember who we ended up with, Paladini, who then was on the brink of re-mortgaging HQ to ABC Loans, when at the last minute our knight in shining armour rode into town Briatori. How life has been so settled for the R's since that time. We were a gnats whisker away from losing our ground to a Panamanian investment company that would have more than likely have turned it into housing. |
"And for further information it is now official that the clubs date of formation was 2004, that they had no history before that and also the previous history of Wimbledon FC has been acknowledged to belong to AFC Wimbledon. MK Dons has never won the FA Cup, AFC Wimbledon has. "
Only took them the two years to admit that though and that was only because they wanted their supporters association to gain membership of the Football Supporters Federation who had previously refused them membership and had orchestrated a boycott of their matches, urging rival fans not to travel to MK. | |
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| Wombles v mk on 00:02 - Aug 15 with 916 views | loftboy |
| Wombles v mk on 17:21 - Aug 14 by DWQPR |
Living in MK you do see the community work that goes on by the club. The old Wimbledon was dying, first shafted by Sam Hammam and then by Charles Koppel(?), once they had moved to Selhurst Park they never stood a chance as tenants paying rent that was unsustainable on their crowds once they were relegated to the championship. There was nobody interested in buying the club other than Winkelman. If he hadn't then Wimbledon FC would have gone the same way as Maidstone, Accrington Stanley, Newport County and very nearly the likes of Middlesbrough and Charlton Athletic. AFC Wimbledon would have happened with or without Winkelman.
Winkelman's intervention prevented a club from dying and consequently the result is two football league clubs and soon to be two football league clubs playing in shiny new stadia. And two football league clubs providing valuable benefits to their communities. And for further information it is now official that the clubs date of formation was 2004, that they had no history before that and also the previous history of Wimbledon FC has been acknowledged to belong to AFC Wimbledon. MK Dons has never won the FA Cup, AFC Wimbledon has.
And for the record there are still a good number of Wimbledon FC supporters who followed the club to MK and have remained as supporters, obviously in the minority compared to the support of AFC Wimbledon but they do exist. Best of luck to both clubs, life is too short for such pettiness especially when the real villains of the peace were Hamman and Koppel.
And as far as Winkelman's presentation at the Adelaide was concerned, well, we might have dodged a bullet but lets also remember who we ended up with, Paladini, who then was on the brink of re-mortgaging HQ to ABC Loans, when at the last minute our knight in shining armour rode into town Briatori. How life has been so settled for the R's since that time. We were a gnats whisker away from losing our ground to a Panamanian investment company that would have more than likely have turned it into housing. |
Yes and reformed as AFC like they did, the difference being the next highest non leave club should have taken their place.it was that club that was cheated by what winkleman did. |  |
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| Wombles v mk on 07:43 - Aug 15 with 780 views | LythamR |
| Wombles v mk on 22:29 - Aug 14 by Juzzie |
Wimbledon FC did die though.
MK Dons officially formed in 2004 and have no claim to the FA Cup etc. They’re not Wimbledon, they’re a new club.
AFC Wimbledon formed in 2002 from scratch. No history, nothing. They are not the Wimbledon that were originally formed 1889 despite being allowed to have the FA Cup in their honours. They too are a new club.
The whole thing is a sorry mess that the authorities should he ashamed of. |
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regardless of how good MK Dons community work might be, the fact is that they bought their way into a league position to the detriment of Wimbledon or whoever was next in the pyramid at the time if wimbledon had folded or got relegated naturally
For that reason they are and always will be an abomination as far as I am concerned |  | | |
| Wombles v mk on 09:13 - Aug 15 with 734 views | qprxtc |
MK Dons can kiss my hairy spotty white ars£. |  | | |
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