| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase 21:48 - May 24 with 18043 views | PatfromPoole |
Now that the dust has begun to settle, I am sensing that the pendulum is swinging from “Tonda out” to “Tonda in”.
Or is it just me? |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 23:06 - May 25 with 3026 views | saint22 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:33 - May 25 by PatfromPoole |
Current vote on there is as below.
Sack him - 142 (48.8%)
Don't sack him - 149 (51.2%)
Interesting.
Dare I say, this could be the new Brexit...... |
If that’s the comparison we Will be in league 2 in three years |  | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 09:46 - May 26 with 2854 views | blubberboy |
I can live with him staying but I honestly don't see how it can possibly happen.
I'm guessing that SR are waiting for him to be banned by the FA so that they can say to the players "OK, the manager has left but it's not our fault so how about giving us another year under whoever we appoint as his replacement", giving them a possible way out of this mess without alienating the squad.
Then again I'm usually wrong about these things, but SR can be as devious as anyone else when the need arises. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 09:59 - May 26 with 2833 views | dirk_doone |
Sack him - 159 (43.8%)
Don't sack him - 204 (56.2%)
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:42 - May 26 with 2769 views | UTS1885 |
No change from me or anyone i know, shambolic the clowns not been sacked for what hes done. Amateur management and why they need to be kicked out as well. |  | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:58 - May 26 with 2739 views | Southamptonfan |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:42 - May 26 by UTS1885 |
No change from me or anyone i know, shambolic the clowns not been sacked for what hes done. Amateur management and why they need to be kicked out as well. |
But you're a Pompey fan, so you would say that. You wouldn't want Saints to keep a fantastic manager so that we beat Pompey next season. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:15 - May 26 with 2734 views | GasGiant |
The players will ultimately decide whether Tonda Eckert has any future with Southampton. If they are as angry (with him) as some rumours suggest then he needs to go. But if the bond between players and coach stays strong then forget what other club's fans think or say, appoint a caretaker coach with the understanding that his role will subject to review when Eckert's suspension concludes. The only person who definitely has no future is the idiotic kid who let everyone see him before running away to his hotel and his car dropping clues as he went. Perhaps he was working for Middlesbrough all along in which case he is the most skilful agent provocateur since Agent ZigZag. . [Post edited 26 May 11:16]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:25 - May 26 with 2712 views | PaghamSaint |
Just joined the merry thong and first ever post. First of all top 3 biscuits:
1. Bourbons
2. Custard Creams
3. Wagon Wheels
I am very much in the keep Tonda team. The punishment received by the club and the rhetoric prior to, during and after the hearing was not warranted for the so called offence (it was not a crime) committed. Are those calling for Tonda to go also going to voice similar opinions if one of our players gets aways with a simulated offence on the pitch such as "diving" for a penalty or making out that they have been assaulted by an opponent that results in a red card, of course they are not, but the issues are similar, they all try to improve the chances of winning, however on the pitch it only results in a yellow card unless you do it another time in the match, but again it's only a second yellow, and not a straight red. Do they want the player involved to be sacked as well. The analyst was caught once prior to the Play Off at Middlesborough. The other 2 offences admitted too took place on other days and involved other teams, so at best a yellow for each, and as far as I know you don't carry yellows over into the next match in order to get your red card, they have to accumulate to about 5 or 6 before you get banned. I don't think 3 separate yellows gets you a ban unless someone can enlighten me. If they suspect others, prove it, I doubt the club will now admit to anything more after the latest hearing hatchet job. Matches used to won and lost (or drawn) on the pitch, now they can also be won by having a very good PR team to go over the top in regards to a minor offence along with a person who is prepared to threaten the authority that governs it all with further litigation should the hearing result not go their way. The EFL have effectively given the go ahead with the penalties issued in relation to this event for other clubs to go ahead and challenge a result if they feel that they have been "cheated" out of a positive result, and that the referees decision is now not necessarily final. The EFL had the opportunity to stop the match prior to the second leg, but didn't, making me and I suspect others think that this was just about money and the prestige of the biggest match in the EFL calendar, The club may have things taken out of their hands over Tonda and others in the club, but as far as I can see, and perhaps others may be able to enlighten me, the EFL is the only place that has this 72 hour rule in place and even then there is no tariff within that ruling should it be breached. Questions have been raised in many quarters over the persons on the original hearing board and the links, all be it tentative, to Middlesborough FC. This area needs to be escalated as much as possible by the club, as someone on Sky a few days back said, they must have had to look hard to find someone from all the lawyers out there that had some form of link, no matter how historical or pertinent to Middlesborough FC to sit on that hearing, time to hire a very good PR team ourselves and go after this issue to put doubt out there as to offence warranting the penalties given. Also other threads have thrown up the data protection issues when using payment data to obtain personal details in relation to the analyst sent to Middlesborough FC training ground. That also needs to be investigated by the payment card company to see if there are any data protection principle offences for any individuals involved. What other potential data protection issues may have also occurred during the production of so called evidence prior to the hearing, such as naming the "spy" and releasing the image into the public domain before the hearing. "We need to come out fighting now". A number of Saints fans have highlighted issues that don't seem to add up, Let us see if our Teams Lawyers and the like can do it. I've looked at my calendar and it is clear that yesterday I was a Saints Supporter, Today I am a Saints Supporter, and tomorrow onwards I will be a Saints Supporter. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:37 - May 26 with 2688 views | hedgeend61 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:25 - May 26 by PaghamSaint |
Just joined the merry thong and first ever post. First of all top 3 biscuits:
1. Bourbons
2. Custard Creams
3. Wagon Wheels
I am very much in the keep Tonda team. The punishment received by the club and the rhetoric prior to, during and after the hearing was not warranted for the so called offence (it was not a crime) committed. Are those calling for Tonda to go also going to voice similar opinions if one of our players gets aways with a simulated offence on the pitch such as "diving" for a penalty or making out that they have been assaulted by an opponent that results in a red card, of course they are not, but the issues are similar, they all try to improve the chances of winning, however on the pitch it only results in a yellow card unless you do it another time in the match, but again it's only a second yellow, and not a straight red. Do they want the player involved to be sacked as well. The analyst was caught once prior to the Play Off at Middlesborough. The other 2 offences admitted too took place on other days and involved other teams, so at best a yellow for each, and as far as I know you don't carry yellows over into the next match in order to get your red card, they have to accumulate to about 5 or 6 before you get banned. I don't think 3 separate yellows gets you a ban unless someone can enlighten me. If they suspect others, prove it, I doubt the club will now admit to anything more after the latest hearing hatchet job. Matches used to won and lost (or drawn) on the pitch, now they can also be won by having a very good PR team to go over the top in regards to a minor offence along with a person who is prepared to threaten the authority that governs it all with further litigation should the hearing result not go their way. The EFL have effectively given the go ahead with the penalties issued in relation to this event for other clubs to go ahead and challenge a result if they feel that they have been "cheated" out of a positive result, and that the referees decision is now not necessarily final. The EFL had the opportunity to stop the match prior to the second leg, but didn't, making me and I suspect others think that this was just about money and the prestige of the biggest match in the EFL calendar, The club may have things taken out of their hands over Tonda and others in the club, but as far as I can see, and perhaps others may be able to enlighten me, the EFL is the only place that has this 72 hour rule in place and even then there is no tariff within that ruling should it be breached. Questions have been raised in many quarters over the persons on the original hearing board and the links, all be it tentative, to Middlesborough FC. This area needs to be escalated as much as possible by the club, as someone on Sky a few days back said, they must have had to look hard to find someone from all the lawyers out there that had some form of link, no matter how historical or pertinent to Middlesborough FC to sit on that hearing, time to hire a very good PR team ourselves and go after this issue to put doubt out there as to offence warranting the penalties given. Also other threads have thrown up the data protection issues when using payment data to obtain personal details in relation to the analyst sent to Middlesborough FC training ground. That also needs to be investigated by the payment card company to see if there are any data protection principle offences for any individuals involved. What other potential data protection issues may have also occurred during the production of so called evidence prior to the hearing, such as naming the "spy" and releasing the image into the public domain before the hearing. "We need to come out fighting now". A number of Saints fans have highlighted issues that don't seem to add up, Let us see if our Teams Lawyers and the like can do it. I've looked at my calendar and it is clear that yesterday I was a Saints Supporter, Today I am a Saints Supporter, and tomorrow onwards I will be a Saints Supporter. |
Welcome, good post, were used to many dribblers 
4. Paragraphs please, lots of our mince pies aren't what they were, merci |  | | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 14:20 - May 29 with 2477 views | Berber |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:11 - May 25 by SanMarco |
The fan base is therefore the most forgiving in history. He got us chucked out of a play off final we would have won. All our anger at the media, Mboro and the EFL, however justified, does not change the fact that Tonda chose to cheat with catastrophic consequences. He may be able to rebuild his career after he's served his ban but any future achievements here would be forever tainted. And surely we're not that forgiving? I know I'm not and I would think that the majority of supporters would agree with me in that. It's a great shame but Tonda brought this on himself and us. |
Good post. |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:02 - May 29 with 2369 views | Tonyfromdk |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:11 - May 25 by SanMarco |
The fan base is therefore the most forgiving in history. He got us chucked out of a play off final we would have won. All our anger at the media, Mboro and the EFL, however justified, does not change the fact that Tonda chose to cheat with catastrophic consequences. He may be able to rebuild his career after he's served his ban but any future achievements here would be forever tainted. And surely we're not that forgiving? I know I'm not and I would think that the majority of supporters would agree with me in that. It's a great shame but Tonda brought this on himself and us. |
I think the “majority of supporters” would agree to disagree with you.
He’s not a serial killer, get a perspective on this.
As others have said before, he got us there in the first place.
Get a grip and support your team, if he stays then for me that’s a win.
Like me, you don’t know the facts about this.
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:46 - May 29 with 2326 views | dirk_doone |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:02 - May 29 by Tonyfromdk |
I think the “majority of supporters” would agree to disagree with you.
He’s not a serial killer, get a perspective on this.
As others have said before, he got us there in the first place.
Get a grip and support your team, if he stays then for me that’s a win.
Like me, you don’t know the facts about this.
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Just as well the Saints players and loyal Saints fans don't think like he does or we might as well give up.. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 18:10 - May 29 with 2290 views | Tonyfromdk |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:46 - May 29 by dirk_doone |
Just as well the Saints players and loyal Saints fans don't think like he does or we might as well give up.. |
Exactly.
This whole farce has brought a new generation of “The Muppet Show”
There is a few on here who really need to understand that we’re together on this, most anyway.
Don’t kick someone when they’re down. [Post edited 29 May 18:16]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 22:09 - May 29 with 2207 views | kernow |
Lots of indignant, opinionated presumption about all this.
A lot of I’m sure I speak for most fans when I say……bla bla bla.
Feelings of being tainted, apologetic, wholly embarrassed, ashamed.
All valid feelings and opinions but not shared by this fan.
I regret nothing. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 01:47 - May 30 with 2141 views | saintmary5 |
Tonda, was the best manager in the Championship 2026 year by far. Southampton fc will never get a better manager, ever! The way to look at this is in percentages, best probability is this, his tactics plus training, inspiration and motivation of the squad is 85/90% the foolish spy stuff = 10 - 15% advantage. I personally would take the 85/90% advantage of having Tonda as manager every day!! |  | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 07:12 - May 30 with 2097 views | cocklebreath |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 01:47 - May 30 by saintmary5 |
Tonda, was the best manager in the Championship 2026 year by far. Southampton fc will never get a better manager, ever! The way to look at this is in percentages, best probability is this, his tactics plus training, inspiration and motivation of the squad is 85/90% the foolish spy stuff = 10 - 15% advantage. I personally would take the 85/90% advantage of having Tonda as manager every day!! |
Agreed. As long as the FA don’t fook us over again we need to keep him and storm the league next season including 2 wins over the pathetic boro. |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 09:12 - Jun 1 with 1746 views | PJK1972 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 23:14 - May 24 by Southamptonfan |
Hmm, morally you're right. But if we had the choice:
1) An "immoral" manager who is a winner and gets Saints promoted with aggressive, full throttle performances. Just a bit of the dark arts thrown in.
Or
2).A pleasant moral, decent guy that doesn't get promotion and we get bullied on the pitch? I.e Will Still
Some may say what about the moral manager that gets us promotion but -
Alex Ferguson was called a bully by some, so was Clough, so was Jose Mourinho amd they carried out the dark arts too. Great winners do whatever it takes to win and their fans loved winning titles. I loved watching Saints win games, loved watching Downes rough up the.opposition, and.loved watching THB cause chaos. Tonda would get success and I want success, but he's does some.spying 🤷. [Post edited 24 May 23:19]
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I'm one of those coming around to keeping him. I agree with the comments below as far as Tonda is more a 1) than a 2) and everyone likes a winner.
I wanted him to apologise to the fans, players and his analysts, but I think keeping his job requires he lets the club control the narrative until the FA investigation is concluded. He's therefore pretty much been silenced. I'm hoping we'll get the full truth from Tonda himself in the near future.
He's got a lot of rebuilding of trust within the club and us fans. Lets hope that happens and we start next season with a bang. |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:20 - Jun 1 with 1675 views | DorsetIan |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 09:12 - Jun 1 by PJK1972 |
I'm one of those coming around to keeping him. I agree with the comments below as far as Tonda is more a 1) than a 2) and everyone likes a winner.
I wanted him to apologise to the fans, players and his analysts, but I think keeping his job requires he lets the club control the narrative until the FA investigation is concluded. He's therefore pretty much been silenced. I'm hoping we'll get the full truth from Tonda himself in the near future.
He's got a lot of rebuilding of trust within the club and us fans. Lets hope that happens and we start next season with a bang. |
It's a big challenge for him so early in this career. Managers generally don't like to appear vulnerable or in the wrong and he's going to have to eat a lot of humble pie if he wants to build bridges with everyone.
I'm reminded of when Pat Murphy made a special trip to a Leicester presser just so he could call out Nigel Pearson for his treatment of a junior reporter. Pearson did not like that at all, and if Tonda does a similar press conference, he's going to be having arrows coming at him from all sides.
(Top man Pat Murphy.) |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 20:16 - Jun 6 with 1345 views | saintmary5 |
Thank you and yes, let’s do this! | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:31 - Jun 7 with 1200 views | solent_toffee |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:25 - May 26 by PaghamSaint |
Just joined the merry thong and first ever post. First of all top 3 biscuits:
1. Bourbons
2. Custard Creams
3. Wagon Wheels
I am very much in the keep Tonda team. The punishment received by the club and the rhetoric prior to, during and after the hearing was not warranted for the so called offence (it was not a crime) committed. Are those calling for Tonda to go also going to voice similar opinions if one of our players gets aways with a simulated offence on the pitch such as "diving" for a penalty or making out that they have been assaulted by an opponent that results in a red card, of course they are not, but the issues are similar, they all try to improve the chances of winning, however on the pitch it only results in a yellow card unless you do it another time in the match, but again it's only a second yellow, and not a straight red. Do they want the player involved to be sacked as well. The analyst was caught once prior to the Play Off at Middlesborough. The other 2 offences admitted too took place on other days and involved other teams, so at best a yellow for each, and as far as I know you don't carry yellows over into the next match in order to get your red card, they have to accumulate to about 5 or 6 before you get banned. I don't think 3 separate yellows gets you a ban unless someone can enlighten me. If they suspect others, prove it, I doubt the club will now admit to anything more after the latest hearing hatchet job. Matches used to won and lost (or drawn) on the pitch, now they can also be won by having a very good PR team to go over the top in regards to a minor offence along with a person who is prepared to threaten the authority that governs it all with further litigation should the hearing result not go their way. The EFL have effectively given the go ahead with the penalties issued in relation to this event for other clubs to go ahead and challenge a result if they feel that they have been "cheated" out of a positive result, and that the referees decision is now not necessarily final. The EFL had the opportunity to stop the match prior to the second leg, but didn't, making me and I suspect others think that this was just about money and the prestige of the biggest match in the EFL calendar, The club may have things taken out of their hands over Tonda and others in the club, but as far as I can see, and perhaps others may be able to enlighten me, the EFL is the only place that has this 72 hour rule in place and even then there is no tariff within that ruling should it be breached. Questions have been raised in many quarters over the persons on the original hearing board and the links, all be it tentative, to Middlesborough FC. This area needs to be escalated as much as possible by the club, as someone on Sky a few days back said, they must have had to look hard to find someone from all the lawyers out there that had some form of link, no matter how historical or pertinent to Middlesborough FC to sit on that hearing, time to hire a very good PR team ourselves and go after this issue to put doubt out there as to offence warranting the penalties given. Also other threads have thrown up the data protection issues when using payment data to obtain personal details in relation to the analyst sent to Middlesborough FC training ground. That also needs to be investigated by the payment card company to see if there are any data protection principle offences for any individuals involved. What other potential data protection issues may have also occurred during the production of so called evidence prior to the hearing, such as naming the "spy" and releasing the image into the public domain before the hearing. "We need to come out fighting now". A number of Saints fans have highlighted issues that don't seem to add up, Let us see if our Teams Lawyers and the like can do it. I've looked at my calendar and it is clear that yesterday I was a Saints Supporter, Today I am a Saints Supporter, and tomorrow onwards I will be a Saints Supporter. |
I appreciate that it’s been an emotional and controversial time of this board lately, but how on earth has a wagon wheel been allowed through as biscuit.
There’s no need to lower the standards. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:31 - Jun 7 with 1163 views | Chesham_Saint |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:31 - Jun 7 by solent_toffee |
I appreciate that it’s been an emotional and controversial time of this board lately, but how on earth has a wagon wheel been allowed through as biscuit.
There’s no need to lower the standards. |
Quite! The whole place has gone to shit. What next, muffins? FFS.
Oh, and football wise keep Tonda. Corruption and double standards run right from the top in football with the likes of Infantino and Blatter to the absolute dregs like the skates beating up disabled fans. |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 12:23 - Jun 7 with 1137 views | PaghamSaint |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:31 - Jun 7 by solent_toffee |
I appreciate that it’s been an emotional and controversial time of this board lately, but how on earth has a wagon wheel been allowed through as biscuit.
There’s no need to lower the standards. |
Sorry ST, just to elaborate, my number 3 top biscuit is a Wagon Wheel but only those in the red packet. You and that other lot from down the M27 can have the Wagon Wheels in the blue packets as I won't buy those ones.
I've always thought a Wagon Wheel was a biscuit, albeit a posh one, unless someone otherwise enlighten me? | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 13:55 - Jun 7 with 1078 views | solent_toffee |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 12:23 - Jun 7 by PaghamSaint |
Sorry ST, just to elaborate, my number 3 top biscuit is a Wagon Wheel but only those in the red packet. You and that other lot from down the M27 can have the Wagon Wheels in the blue packets as I won't buy those ones.
I've always thought a Wagon Wheel was a biscuit, albeit a posh one, unless someone otherwise enlighten me? |
Can you dip it on a cup of tea? I mean you could, but it would be a mess.
I get you with the colour of the wrappers though and admire your stance. As one of seven brothers, growing up my mum would had to unwrap penguin wrappers to prevent us accusing each other of being Liverpool fans and battering each other. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:30 - Jun 7 with 993 views | Chesham_Saint |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 13:55 - Jun 7 by solent_toffee |
Can you dip it on a cup of tea? I mean you could, but it would be a mess.
I get you with the colour of the wrappers though and admire your stance. As one of seven brothers, growing up my mum would had to unwrap penguin wrappers to prevent us accusing each other of being Liverpool fans and battering each other. |
Battering each other’s biscuits? I thought you were a Scouser Toffs, not a Sweatie..! | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 18:20 - Jun 7 with 948 views | HytheFerrytales |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 16:30 - Jun 7 by Chesham_Saint |
Battering each other’s biscuits? I thought you were a Scouser Toffs, not a Sweatie..! |
Battering another chap's biscuit sounds like an unimaginable act that might even involve a Mary Berry lookalike actor. | | | |
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