| FAO ECB on 09:40 - Jul 24 with 1401 views | felixstowe_jack |
Pity Corbyn never corrected the torries before the election and said Labour are definitely not cancelling student debts. |  |
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| FAO ECB on 09:43 - Jul 24 with 1395 views | WarwickHunt |
"I'll deal with it".
Of course you will, Jeremy. Of course you will... |  | | |
| FAO ECB on 09:45 - Jul 24 with 1392 views | Pegojack |
He said he would be abolishing student debt from the 2017-18 academic year onwards, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good Tory slur. |  | | |
| FAO ECB on 09:50 - Jul 24 with 1383 views | WarwickHunt |
| FAO ECB on 09:45 - Jul 24 by Pegojack |
He said he would be abolishing student debt from the 2017-18 academic year onwards, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good Tory slur. |
He promised to "deal with" existing debt. | | | |
| FAO ECB on 09:54 - Jul 24 with 1376 views | Pegojack |
| FAO ECB on 09:50 - Jul 24 by WarwickHunt |
He promised to "deal with" existing debt. |
That is expressing an aspiration, you know, the same way the Maybot expresses an aspiration to deal with the crisis in adult social care funding but hasn't actually said how, after the dementia tax was shot down. | | | |
| FAO ECB on 10:06 - Jul 24 with 1354 views | raynor94 |
| FAO ECB on 09:45 - Jul 24 by Pegojack |
He said he would be abolishing student debt from the 2017-18 academic year onwards, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good Tory slur. |
The sound of him reversing is deafening! |  |
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| FAO ECB on 10:09 - Jul 24 with 1349 views | WarwickHunt |
| FAO ECB on 09:54 - Jul 24 by Pegojack |
That is expressing an aspiration, you know, the same way the Maybot expresses an aspiration to deal with the crisis in adult social care funding but hasn't actually said how, after the dementia tax was shot down. |
I don't disagree - the Maybot is an unmitigated disaster. It was typical Corbyn off the cuff, gesture politics though.
Like you, I'm a lifelong Labour supporter... | | | |
| FAO ECB on 10:17 - Jul 24 with 1331 views | ploppy |
| FAO ECB on 09:54 - Jul 24 by Pegojack |
That is expressing an aspiration, you know, the same way the Maybot expresses an aspiration to deal with the crisis in adult social care funding but hasn't actually said how, after the dementia tax was shot down. |
"Deal with it" could mean anything though. Anything from looking at the scale of the debt and deciding he can't do anything about it, to wiping it out completely. It's vague - which is exactly what he intended. | | | |
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| FAO ECB on 10:22 - Jul 24 with 1324 views | WarwickHunt |
| FAO ECB on 10:17 - Jul 24 by ploppy |
"Deal with it" could mean anything though. Anything from looking at the scale of the debt and deciding he can't do anything about it, to wiping it out completely. It's vague - which is exactly what he intended. |
In which case, "I'll look into it" would have been the correct reply.
"There's a pile of washing up in the sink"
"OK luv, I'll deal with it"
Next morning -
"You didn't do the washing up - it's still there!"
"Well, I looked at it and thought bollox to that..." | | | |
| FAO ECB on 10:28 - Jul 24 with 1312 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
He'll deal with it .
He'll look at it .
More importantly - the Torys will raise it.
Vote Tory -it's great |  |
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| FAO ECB on 10:33 - Jul 24 with 1302 views | Pegojack |
This is what the Labour Party Manifesto 2017 actually says:
HIGHER
EDUCATION
Labour believes education should
be free, and we will restore this
principle. ô€€±o one should be put off
educating themselves for lack of
money or through fear of debt.
There is a real fear that students
are being priced out of university
education. Last year saw the steepest
fall in university applications for
30 years.
Since the Conservatives came to
power, university tuition fees have
been trebled to over £9,000 a year,
and maintenance grants have been
abolished and replaced with loans.
The average student now graduates
from university, and starts their
working life, with debts of £44,000.
Labour will reintroduce maintenance
grants for university students, and we
will abolish university tuition fees.
University tuition is free in many
northern European countries, and
under a Labour government it will
be free here too.
Where in there does it say that they will abolish existing debt? Answer: Nowhere.
But as I say, don't let the facts get in the way of a good old Tory slur.
I will admit though, despite being a lifelong Labour supporter, that Jezza looked a tad uncomfortable when being questioned on it on the Andrew Marr Show. Could have handled it better, brush up on those media skills, Jezza. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 10:39]
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| FAO ECB on 10:40 - Jul 24 with 1281 views | Highjack |
I think with the situation labour were in at the calling of the election, twenty points behind in the polls or whatever it was they could promise all sorts of mad unobtainable shyte to buy votes knowing that they'd never have to implement it. It's the exact opposite of the Tories believing they didn't even have to bother campaigning and they'd win an increased majority.
Oh for a viable third option or a system that actually gives people a choice other than far left socialist nonsense and big business protectionism. |  |
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| FAO ECB on 10:49 - Jul 24 with 1269 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Politicians are very good at this. They say something that leads people to believe they mean a certain course of action will follow. They don't correct people who believe that course of action will follow because it's a vote winner. They have no intention of following that course of action at all and quote their original words and claim they can't understand why people thought that would happen.
It's why I dislike them all. |  |
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| FAO ECB on 10:55 - Jul 24 with 1260 views | pikeypaul |
"i`ll deal with it" and now he says he did not even know how much it was,typical of his type.
Of course he implied he would cancel it and wanted everyone to think that and thats what a lot of the idiots did.
It will be nice the next time when pushed on it he has to admit its only a wish and the conservatives will just reply we wish we could do it also.
He is now backtracking faster than the Italian army. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 10:58]
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| FAO ECB on 11:22 - Jul 24 with 1229 views | Private_Partz |
| FAO ECB on 10:33 - Jul 24 by Pegojack |
This is what the Labour Party Manifesto 2017 actually says:
HIGHER
EDUCATION
Labour believes education should
be free, and we will restore this
principle. ô€€±o one should be put off
educating themselves for lack of
money or through fear of debt.
There is a real fear that students
are being priced out of university
education. Last year saw the steepest
fall in university applications for
30 years.
Since the Conservatives came to
power, university tuition fees have
been trebled to over £9,000 a year,
and maintenance grants have been
abolished and replaced with loans.
The average student now graduates
from university, and starts their
working life, with debts of £44,000.
Labour will reintroduce maintenance
grants for university students, and we
will abolish university tuition fees.
University tuition is free in many
northern European countries, and
under a Labour government it will
be free here too.
Where in there does it say that they will abolish existing debt? Answer: Nowhere.
But as I say, don't let the facts get in the way of a good old Tory slur.
I will admit though, despite being a lifelong Labour supporter, that Jezza looked a tad uncomfortable when being questioned on it on the Andrew Marr Show. Could have handled it better, brush up on those media skills, Jezza. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 10:39]
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Excellent post and thanks for picking that up. It won't stop the Tory Boys on here conspiring though but it isn't there for all to see.
I thought he looked very comfortable on the Marr show and he is certainly brushing up on his media performances and learning fast.
Compare that to every stuttering Tory we see and he is doing very well.
He made a very valid point about non government parties being refused access to stats and figures when preparing their manifestos.
Something that would change if Labour got into power. John Mc is coming up with a policy on existing student debt very soon so let's see what transpires there. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 13:18]
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To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
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| FAO ECB on 11:24 - Jul 24 with 1223 views | waynekerr55 |
| FAO ECB on 11:22 - Jul 24 by Private_Partz |
Excellent post and thanks for picking that up. It won't stop the Tory Boys on here conspiring though but it isn't there for all to see.
I thought he looked very comfortable on the Marr show and he is certainly brushing up on his media performances and learning fast.
Compare that to every stuttering Tory we see and he is doing very well.
He made a very valid point about non government parties being refused access to stats and figures when preparing their manifestos.
Something that would change if Labour got into power. John Mc is coming up with a policy on existing student debt very soon so let's see what transpires there. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 13:18]
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"The Tory boys on here"
People can be anti Corbyn and anti Conservative PP. Come on, you're better than this...! |  |
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| FAO ECB on 11:36 - Jul 24 with 1213 views | Loyal |
When it comes to Corbyn people definitely confuse his ability to protest with leading a country. |  |
| Nolan sympathiser, clout expert, personal friend of Leigh Dineen, advocate and enforcer of porridge swallows.
The official inventor of the tit w@nk. | | Poll: | Who should be Swansea number 1 |
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| FAO ECB on 11:38 - Jul 24 with 1210 views | MarinaJack |
| FAO ECB on 11:24 - Jul 24 by waynekerr55 |
"The Tory boys on here"
People can be anti Corbyn and anti Conservative PP. Come on, you're better than this...! |
We all know what john mc answer will be . Well tax the rich to pay for it, same as his answer as to how we will fund everything from extra police to a free unicorn for every house hold.
I'm a labour member and voter I just don't like mcdonell Abbott shami etc and I never will | | | |
| FAO ECB on 11:39 - Jul 24 with 1206 views | WarwickHunt |
| FAO ECB on 11:38 - Jul 24 by MarinaJack |
We all know what john mc answer will be . Well tax the rich to pay for it, same as his answer as to how we will fund everything from extra police to a free unicorn for every house hold.
I'm a labour member and voter I just don't like mcdonell Abbott shami etc and I never will |
Innit.
I want a Labour government but preferably not one with Corbyn, Thornberry, Burgon, Abbott and McDonnell on the front bench. | | | |
| FAO ECB on 11:46 - Jul 24 with 1197 views | waynekerr55 |
| FAO ECB on 11:38 - Jul 24 by MarinaJack |
We all know what john mc answer will be . Well tax the rich to pay for it, same as his answer as to how we will fund everything from extra police to a free unicorn for every house hold.
I'm a labour member and voter I just don't like mcdonell Abbott shami etc and I never will |
Yes, that approach has worked so well in France. If it was such a great idea, then why did Macron romp home in the recent elections? | |
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| FAO ECB on 12:04 - Jul 24 with 1185 views | pikeypaul |
| FAO ECB on 11:22 - Jul 24 by Private_Partz |
Excellent post and thanks for picking that up. It won't stop the Tory Boys on here conspiring though but it isn't there for all to see.
I thought he looked very comfortable on the Marr show and he is certainly brushing up on his media performances and learning fast.
Compare that to every stuttering Tory we see and he is doing very well.
He made a very valid point about non government parties being refused access to stats and figures when preparing their manifestos.
Something that would change if Labour got into power. John Mc is coming up with a policy on existing student debt very soon so let's see what transpires there. [Post edited 24 Jul 2017 13:18]
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so you did not see the "ill deal with it interview"
And now you pretend he never said it or it was just a dream of his or a wish of his,it was blatantly clear what he tried to imply and everyone knows it. | |
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| FAO ECB on 12:21 - Jul 24 with 1164 views | JackFish |
| FAO ECB on 10:40 - Jul 24 by Highjack |
I think with the situation labour were in at the calling of the election, twenty points behind in the polls or whatever it was they could promise all sorts of mad unobtainable shyte to buy votes knowing that they'd never have to implement it. It's the exact opposite of the Tories believing they didn't even have to bother campaigning and they'd win an increased majority.
Oh for a viable third option or a system that actually gives people a choice other than far left socialist nonsense and big business protectionism. |
Won't happen until we move away from FPTP unfortunately. |  | | |
| FAO ECB on 12:25 - Jul 24 with 1156 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| FAO ECB on 11:38 - Jul 24 by MarinaJack |
We all know what john mc answer will be . Well tax the rich to pay for it, same as his answer as to how we will fund everything from extra police to a free unicorn for every house hold.
I'm a labour member and voter I just don't like mcdonell Abbott shami etc and I never will |
Time for you to move on sir
I think you'll find the lib dems more your taste these days | |
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| FAO ECB on 12:37 - Jul 24 with 1134 views | MarinaJack |
| FAO ECB on 12:25 - Jul 24 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Time for you to move on sir
I think you'll find the lib dems more your taste these days |
Give over I'll be voting labour long after corybn cult have found another "cause " to rally to :)
anyhow old cable is in charge of the libs now, watch a new tory / lib coalition take shape | | | |
| FAO ECB on 12:42 - Jul 24 with 1128 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| FAO ECB on 12:37 - Jul 24 by MarinaJack |
Give over I'll be voting labour long after corybn cult have found another "cause " to rally to :)
anyhow old cable is in charge of the libs now, watch a new tory / lib coalition take shape |
Indeed my friend .
What a state this country is in I think you'll agree
It's all Corbyns fault to many a f@ck wit.
The young have and will vote again for the current labour manifesto .
Let's hope that's soon | |
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