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FAO Some Trust Person 14:12 - Nov 26 with 19748 viewsDarran

How many co-oppers have applied for co-option and when will we find out who’s been co-opted?

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:30 - Nov 26 with 1522 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:26 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy

According to Ux it’s a fact. And I’ve no reason to doubt him, he’s pretty straight even if he is being unusually evasive on this thread.


Am I? Possibly, I dunno. About what in particular? I'm probably not quite as dogmatic about certain things, but there are probably many reasons for that. I wouldn't last a day in the DVLA would I!

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:30 - Nov 26 with 1519 views3swan

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:26 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Assuming the rules are applied without amendment, yes. If not, no. I'd argue for an amendment, although I'm not yet convinced on the merits of making it retrospective.


OK clear now.

I took the statement to read the board had already discussed and the decision was to implement the new rules at the AGM
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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:32 - Nov 26 with 1509 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:27 - Nov 26 by 3swan

Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

The answers should be there if they have sight of the new rules.


Everyone does.. https://supporters-direct.org/rules-and-policies-1

But like I say, they can be varied as required.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:32 - Nov 26 with 1503 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:30 - Nov 26 by 3swan

OK clear now.

I took the statement to read the board had already discussed and the decision was to implement the new rules at the AGM


That’s a decision for members, not the board.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:34 - Nov 26 with 1499 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:30 - Nov 26 by 3swan

OK clear now.

I took the statement to read the board had already discussed and the decision was to implement the new rules at the AGM


Either way it's the plan, but it's all irrelevant as it's up to the members to agree or not. If not, then 2001 applies and I'm not entirely sure what happens then.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:35 - Nov 26 with 1490 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:32 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy

That’s a decision for members, not the board.


See, we agree. I knew we'd get there

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:36 - Nov 26 with 1485 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:34 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Either way it's the plan, but it's all irrelevant as it's up to the members to agree or not. If not, then 2001 applies and I'm not entirely sure what happens then.


And of course there’s the intervening period during which the current rules still apply.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:36 - Nov 26 with 1480 views3swan

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:32 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Everyone does.. https://supporters-direct.org/rules-and-policies-1

But like I say, they can be varied as required.


Everything is now clear.

When new SD new rules were quoted I thought there was a further update coming than the ones in July 2012
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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:36 - Nov 26 with 1482 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:36 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy

And of course there’s the intervening period during which the current rules still apply.


Indeed. Which is why the Trust consulted SD for the appropriate interim process.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:38 - Nov 26 with 1468 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:36 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Indeed. Which is why the Trust consulted SD for the appropriate interim process.


I’m genuinely surprised that the advice from SD was to ignore the rules that currently govern the Trust.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:39 - Nov 26 with 1464 views3swan

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:35 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

See, we agree. I knew we'd get there


I shouldn't I know.

But

Will it be a strong recommendation to go with the 2012 rules before a vote

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:44 - Nov 26 with 1446 viewsGaryjack

Surely, if the reason the trust wanted to adopt the new model rules was because there was a lack of new applications, the fact that 14 people have now applied for 4 positions means that any board member who has served 12 years should now gracefully stand aside?
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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:47 - Nov 26 with 1428 viewsNeath_Jack

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:44 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

Surely, if the reason the trust wanted to adopt the new model rules was because there was a lack of new applications, the fact that 14 people have now applied for 4 positions means that any board member who has served 12 years should now gracefully stand aside?


The new applicants will be deemed unsuitable is my guess.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they discuss The Res, application too, can you imagine it? I know Phil and Ux have asked him to stand many times on here, but behind closed doors with the other members?
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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:47 - Nov 26 with 1428 viewsVetchfielder

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:32 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Everyone does.. https://supporters-direct.org/rules-and-policies-1

But like I say, they can be varied as required.


These are the 2012 rules but you've referred previously to the 2016 rules - so are you able to provide a link to those please, the ones you propose to adopt ?

Also, what will be the process for proposing amendment to those rules ?

Proud to have been one of the 231

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FAO Some Trust Person on 20:48 - Nov 26 with 1422 views3swan

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:44 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

Surely, if the reason the trust wanted to adopt the new model rules was because there was a lack of new applications, the fact that 14 people have now applied for 4 positions means that any board member who has served 12 years should now gracefully stand aside?


At least put themselves up for re-election.

As in most things in life I want the best balance on the board that reflects not only the need of the board but a true reflection of the fanbase
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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:00 - Nov 26 with 1391 viewsGaryjack

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:44 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

Surely, if the reason the trust wanted to adopt the new model rules was because there was a lack of new applications, the fact that 14 people have now applied for 4 positions means that any board member who has served 12 years should now gracefully stand aside?


Ux?
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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:04 - Nov 26 with 1376 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:00 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

Ux?


16 mins. Just saying, like.

I don't see why the two are related personally.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:06 - Nov 26 with 1361 viewsFlashberryjack

FAO Some Trust Person on 15:58 - Nov 26 by Jackfath

Mine too.


Mine as well

I wish I had a mate like Neath_Jack.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:07 - Nov 26 with 1356 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 20:47 - Nov 26 by Vetchfielder

These are the 2012 rules but you've referred previously to the 2016 rules - so are you able to provide a link to those please, the ones you propose to adopt ?

Also, what will be the process for proposing amendment to those rules ?


Are they? Are you sure? That's SDs website.

It'd be a good idea to publish the proposed rules beforehand. I'll suggest it.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:11 - Nov 26 with 1346 viewsGaryjack

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:04 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

16 mins. Just saying, like.

I don't see why the two are related personally.


WHAT! You don't see the that the trust are adopting the new rules because of a lack of new applicants, and the fact that there are now 14 new applicants for 4 positions is not related! Jesus Christ!
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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:14 - Nov 26 with 1328 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:11 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

WHAT! You don't see the that the trust are adopting the new rules because of a lack of new applicants, and the fact that there are now 14 new applicants for 4 positions is not related! Jesus Christ!


Who said that was the reason for adopting the new model rules?

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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:16 - Nov 26 with 1319 viewslondonlisa2001

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:06 - Nov 26 by Flashberryjack

Mine as well


And mine.
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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:18 - Nov 26 with 1301 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:16 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001

And mine.


Seeing as we’re all confessing, mine too.

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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:18 - Nov 26 with 1301 viewsGaryjack

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:14 - Nov 26 by Uxbridge

Who said that was the reason for adopting the new model rules?


Actually i think it was you. I'll check your posts.
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FAO Some Trust Person on 21:20 - Nov 26 with 1288 viewsUxbridge

FAO Some Trust Person on 21:18 - Nov 26 by Garyjack

Actually i think it was you. I'll check your posts.


Nah. The old ones are majorly outdated, and it's not the first time the Trust have planned to update model rules as per Supporters Direct updates.

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