| Communism or Fascism. 08:08 - Jun 8 with 6391 views | ItchySphincter |
Which one is your favourite? |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:04 - Jun 8 with 1365 views | Lohengrin |
| Communism or Fascism. on 11:39 - Jun 8 by omarjack |
Well as I said communism empathises on "equality" right?
Right-wing fascism (or Nazism) empathises on the opposite of equality amongst the people..it's usually the "elite race" that grinds down the populations of the "inferior races" either killing them,stripping their fortunes or deporting them etc..
Communism is bad for everyone..Nazism is only good for the "the average person"..in the West, it's White straight people from Christian heritage. [Post edited 8 Jun 2018 11:40]
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I’d struggle to discern empathetic sentiment anywhere in the philosophy that promoted the Dictatorship of the Proleteriat in its written doctrine and certainly nothing approaching it in practice. Marx boiled humankind down to this: a consumer/producer unit that requires 1,500 calories per day to function effectively.
That, my friend, is the essential calculus of communism. It’s a vision of humanity with the divine spark extinguished. The drudge existence of life without horizon. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:06 - Jun 8 with 1364 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:04 - Jun 8 by Lohengrin |
I’d struggle to discern empathetic sentiment anywhere in the philosophy that promoted the Dictatorship of the Proleteriat in its written doctrine and certainly nothing approaching it in practice. Marx boiled humankind down to this: a consumer/producer unit that requires 1,500 calories per day to function effectively.
That, my friend, is the essential calculus of communism. It’s a vision of humanity with the divine spark extinguished. The drudge existence of life without horizon. |
I tend to agree with his evaluation. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:13 - Jun 8 with 1352 views | Shaky |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:04 - Jun 8 by Lohengrin |
I’d struggle to discern empathetic sentiment anywhere in the philosophy that promoted the Dictatorship of the Proleteriat in its written doctrine and certainly nothing approaching it in practice. Marx boiled humankind down to this: a consumer/producer unit that requires 1,500 calories per day to function effectively.
That, my friend, is the essential calculus of communism. It’s a vision of humanity with the divine spark extinguished. The drudge existence of life without horizon. |
Das Kapital was published shortly after the end of the Great Famine.
Starvation and famine were common in the era. Food was the priority, "freedom" in all its many forms a secondary luxury.
You should know enough about the historical context that I can not put your misrepresentation down to ignorance. Intellectual dishonesty seems a much more likely explanation. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:23 - Jun 8 with 1325 views | Lohengrin |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:13 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
Das Kapital was published shortly after the end of the Great Famine.
Starvation and famine were common in the era. Food was the priority, "freedom" in all its many forms a secondary luxury.
You should know enough about the historical context that I can not put your misrepresentation down to ignorance. Intellectual dishonesty seems a much more likely explanation. |
So, your contention is that Kapital was informed by, if not specifically framed around the Irish Famine? Have I got that right? | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:27 - Jun 8 with 1316 views | Shaky |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:23 - Jun 8 by Lohengrin |
So, your contention is that Kapital was informed by, if not specifically framed around the Irish Famine? Have I got that right? |
No, it was largely informed by extreme income inequality, of which famine was one facet.
And an important driver of urban inequality as rural populations flocked to cities and the opportunity to be horrendously exploited as substantially slave workforces in factories . | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:54 - Jun 8 with 1285 views | Lohengrin |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:27 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
No, it was largely informed by extreme income inequality, of which famine was one facet.
And an important driver of urban inequality as rural populations flocked to cities and the opportunity to be horrendously exploited as substantially slave workforces in factories . |
It fascinates me that people utilise Marx as all-seeing hero, the sage, the Philosoper-King upon whom they pin their own, personal version of wishful thinking. Here was the man who saw it all and saw it first when they point at some undeniable 19th century historical iniquity. There were any number of contemporary witnesses who saw the slide and searched for a means of arrest yet Marx stands clear of the pack by dint of the events of October 1917 and the ceaseless promotion of his champions.
Going back to the original point about empathy and Communism here’s old Karl himself giving his unvarnished take on proceedings: “The Irish famine of 1846 killed more than 1,000,000 people, but it killed poor devils only.” | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:57 - Jun 8 with 1282 views | Shaky |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:54 - Jun 8 by Lohengrin |
It fascinates me that people utilise Marx as all-seeing hero, the sage, the Philosoper-King upon whom they pin their own, personal version of wishful thinking. Here was the man who saw it all and saw it first when they point at some undeniable 19th century historical iniquity. There were any number of contemporary witnesses who saw the slide and searched for a means of arrest yet Marx stands clear of the pack by dint of the events of October 1917 and the ceaseless promotion of his champions.
Going back to the original point about empathy and Communism here’s old Karl himself giving his unvarnished take on proceedings: “The Irish famine of 1846 killed more than 1,000,000 people, but it killed poor devils only.” |
Flowery fatuous bollocks.
And you omit Marx's next sentence, and the underlying tone of sarcasm and irony. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 12:58 - Jun 8 with 1279 views | Shaky |
. . .like I said, intellectually dishonest, and so fcuking full of yourself. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:03 - Jun 8 with 1277 views | ItchySphincter |
| Communism or Fascism. on 09:51 - Jun 8 by dickythorpe |
Good thread. |
Good post. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:07 - Jun 8 with 1271 views | ItchySphincter |
| Communism or Fascism. on 10:21 - Jun 8 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Let’s not get communism and socialism tarred with the same brush here ,many ill informed think it’s the same . |
It’s perfectly realistic to be socialist and Fascist also. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:07 - Jun 8 with 1271 views | Lohengrin |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:57 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
Flowery fatuous bollocks.
And you omit Marx's next sentence, and the underlying tone of sarcasm and irony. |
About it not making the slightest difference to the wealth of the nation? Differing perspectives at play here, I suspect. Where you detect “sarcasm and irony” (not literary traits many have discerned in Marx, you’ll have to admit) I just see indifference.
Carry on though. I’m enjoying your efforts to rehabilitate the old rogue. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:11 - Jun 8 with 1260 views | Lohengrin |
| Communism or Fascism. on 12:58 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
. . .like I said, intellectually dishonest, and so fcuking full of yourself. |
A bit long in the tooth for tantrums, aren’t you?   | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:15 - Jun 8 with 1252 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
Fascism, hands down. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:19 - Jun 8 with 1232 views | Shaky |
| Communism or Fascism. on 13:11 - Jun 8 by Lohengrin |
A bit long in the tooth for tantrums, aren’t you? |
You Welsh boys are clearly using a different dictionary to me. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:20 - Jun 8 with 1231 views | dickythorpe |
Good reply.
Thanks prof. |  | | |
| Communism or Fascism. on 13:20 - Jun 8 with 1230 views | Shaky |
. . .or right arm up as the case may be. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 13:21 - Jun 8 with 1229 views | omarjack |
| Communism or Fascism. on 13:20 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
. . .or right arm up as the case may be. |
You won the thread. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 14:05 - Jun 8 with 1186 views | Highjack |
| Communism or Fascism. on 13:20 - Jun 8 by Shaky |
. . .or right arm up as the case may be. |
Close the fist and you have a communist. Clearly the two are far more similar than people like to admit. |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 14:12 - Jun 8 with 1180 views | ItchySphincter |
| Communism or Fascism. on 14:05 - Jun 8 by Highjack |
Close the fist and you have a communist. Clearly the two are far more similar than people like to admit. |
Fascism can be socialist or capitalist but is inwardly protective and outwardly aggressive whereas communism is socialist and inwardly oppressive and sometimes outwardly aggressive.
It’s subtle. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 14:17 - Jun 8 with 1177 views | Ebo |
| Communism or Fascism. on 09:45 - Jun 8 by moonie |
Human beings are not born equal .
It's againgst basic human nature to expect pure communism to work.
All great communist leaders were as avaricious, greedy and self centred as is possible to be .
Their lives,their wealth evidence that
I like order so a good dictator ,if it's possible, would do for me
And a briilIant post ,Paul. Your writing is just fine [Post edited 8 Jun 2018 9:48]
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"Human beings are not born equal"
Yes we f ucking are you arse clown |  |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 14:21 - Jun 8 with 1172 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Communism or Fascism. on 14:17 - Jun 8 by Ebo |
"Human beings are not born equal"
Yes we f ucking are you arse clown |
We are not though? | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 16:19 - Jun 8 with 1128 views | Highjack |
| Communism or Fascism. on 14:17 - Jun 8 by Ebo |
"Human beings are not born equal"
Yes we f ucking are you arse clown |
We all die equal. | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 16:22 - Jun 8 with 1124 views | Highjack |
What if we’re born as a Zionist animal who needs to be destroyed? Are they equal? | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 18:04 - Jun 8 with 1093 views | ItchySphincter |
| Communism or Fascism. on 16:22 - Jun 8 by Highjack |
What if we’re born as a Zionist animal who needs to be destroyed? Are they equal? |
Like an Iron ðŸ¦, in Zion? | |
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| Communism or Fascism. on 18:14 - Jun 8 with 1083 views | omarjack |
For Moonie who thinks that people are not born equal..
Well I tend to agree..As some "people" like him are nothing but white-supremacist,literally fascist waste of space that truly don't deserve equality as they're completely ok with taking it away from others because they're a bit different.
C*nt. [Post edited 8 Jun 2018 18:14]
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