| Daytime running lights 20:58 - Jan 26 with 5241 views | jack2jack |
Why do some manufacturers insist on fitting them, in order that they blind oncoming drivers,surely they don't need to be so bright.
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| Daytime running lights on 21:01 - Jan 26 with 4497 views | Flashberryjack |
Crazy! |  |
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| Daytime running lights on 21:14 - Jan 26 with 4466 views | dickythorpe |
Unfortunately it's a legal requirement.....or isn't it? |  | | |
| Daytime running lights on 21:21 - Jan 26 with 4443 views | jack2jack |
| Daytime running lights on 21:14 - Jan 26 by dickythorpe |
Unfortunately it's a legal requirement.....or isn't it? |
Yes Dicky as from 2011, it was an EU directive.
Still think some are OTT
I believe Volvo were the first to have daytime running side lights, which were perfectly adequate, IMHO, but some cars are light up like Blackpool illuminations. | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 21:31 - Jan 26 with 4425 views | Andy1300 |
| Daytime running lights on 21:21 - Jan 26 by jack2jack |
Yes Dicky as from 2011, it was an EU directive.
Still think some are OTT
I believe Volvo were the first to have daytime running side lights, which were perfectly adequate, IMHO, but some cars are light up like Blackpool illuminations. |
Also, on the subject of lights.
Have you noticed how many drive without lights in the dark? I reckon it's because dash lights are always on now. |  |
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| Daytime running lights on 21:37 - Jan 26 with 4413 views | dickythorpe |
Air bag warning lights. Can the AA/RAC come out and put that computer thingy in to what used to be the fag lighter and clear any fault? | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 21:57 - Jan 26 with 4364 views | jack2jack |
| Daytime running lights on 21:31 - Jan 26 by Andy1300 |
Also, on the subject of lights.
Have you noticed how many drive without lights in the dark? I reckon it's because dash lights are always on now. |
Funnily enough me and the missus had this conversation last week.
Are you saying some dash boards light up without having your lights on???
If that's the case it's a stupid situation. | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 23:13 - Jan 26 with 4290 views | Andy1300 |
| Daytime running lights on 21:57 - Jan 26 by jack2jack |
Funnily enough me and the missus had this conversation last week.
Are you saying some dash boards light up without having your lights on???
If that's the case it's a stupid situation. |
Most if not all new cars, the only car I've had recently that didn't light up was a BMW | |
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| Daytime running lights on 01:28 - Jan 27 with 4208 views | Jack59 |
The combination of daytime car lights and sleeping policemen often causes drivers to believe they've been flashed by oncoming drivers to proceed in front of them.
There are many places where this happens. One of the most dangerous places is when turning right eastbound on Walter Road near 'The Tenby' and waiting to take the street that takes you down to St Helens Road. There'a a pedestrian crossing within yards there as well. Its obviously a dangerous situation, but I suppose there will have to be a fatality before it can be considered. |  | | |
| Daytime running lights on 08:19 - Jan 27 with 4094 views | Andy1300 |
| Daytime running lights on 01:28 - Jan 27 by Jack59 |
The combination of daytime car lights and sleeping policemen often causes drivers to believe they've been flashed by oncoming drivers to proceed in front of them.
There are many places where this happens. One of the most dangerous places is when turning right eastbound on Walter Road near 'The Tenby' and waiting to take the street that takes you down to St Helens Road. There'a a pedestrian crossing within yards there as well. Its obviously a dangerous situation, but I suppose there will have to be a fatality before it can be considered. |
That used to happen (flashing effect) with Volvos back in the day. It's not a new thing but is worse now | |
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| Daytime running lights on 12:56 - Jan 27 with 3964 views | Morfa_Same |
It's not a legal requirement in the UK, though it is in some other counties (Sweden I think).
Statistically they cause accident rates to go up so I really don't know why manufacturers are fitting them, but many dealers will disable them if you ask. |  | | |
| Daytime running lights on 15:16 - Jan 27 with 3862 views | jack2jack |
My point is,that,the combination of DRL's headlights and side lights,can and does dazzle, in certain circumstances,i.e. oncoming vehicles driving up hill or over speed cushions etc.These lights are utilised in the daytime and at night and can dazzle in my experience.
Just seems to me that the number of LED's used is excessive on some makes and models of cars. | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 15:31 - Jan 27 with 3843 views | Andy1300 |
| Daytime running lights on 12:56 - Jan 27 by Morfa_Same |
It's not a legal requirement in the UK, though it is in some other counties (Sweden I think).
Statistically they cause accident rates to go up so I really don't know why manufacturers are fitting them, but many dealers will disable them if you ask. |
It’s an EU directive for all cars designed after 2010, they are supposed to dim when you put sidelights on, they can be too bright at night if they are still on full power without side lights on. | |
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| Daytime running lights on 16:53 - Jan 27 with 3807 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Daytime running lights on 12:56 - Jan 27 by Morfa_Same |
It's not a legal requirement in the UK, though it is in some other counties (Sweden I think).
Statistically they cause accident rates to go up so I really don't know why manufacturers are fitting them, but many dealers will disable them if you ask. |
Two things about that. They are a legal requirement in the UK and statistically they reduce the number of accidents. |  |
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| Daytime running lights on 17:56 - Jan 27 with 3750 views | Private_Partz |
| Daytime running lights on 01:28 - Jan 27 by Jack59 |
The combination of daytime car lights and sleeping policemen often causes drivers to believe they've been flashed by oncoming drivers to proceed in front of them.
There are many places where this happens. One of the most dangerous places is when turning right eastbound on Walter Road near 'The Tenby' and waiting to take the street that takes you down to St Helens Road. There'a a pedestrian crossing within yards there as well. Its obviously a dangerous situation, but I suppose there will have to be a fatality before it can be considered. |
Yep. It happens to me often. My Kia Ceed has eight LEDs and they are as bright as hell. |  |
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| Daytime running lights on 18:22 - Jan 27 with 3712 views | Morfa_Same |
| Daytime running lights on 16:53 - Jan 27 by exiledclaseboy |
Two things about that. They are a legal requirement in the UK and statistically they reduce the number of accidents. |
The AA website states clearly that they are not a legal requirement in the UK.
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytime-running-lights
The EU directive requires manufacturers to install them on new vehicles, but we are perfectly entitled to disable them.
It's a fact that some countries say an increase in accidents after daytime running lights were introduced and at least one European country actually banned them as a result. | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 19:05 - Jan 27 with 3680 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Daytime running lights on 18:22 - Jan 27 by Morfa_Same |
The AA website states clearly that they are not a legal requirement in the UK.
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytime-running-lights
The EU directive requires manufacturers to install them on new vehicles, but we are perfectly entitled to disable them.
It's a fact that some countries say an increase in accidents after daytime running lights were introduced and at least one European country actually banned them as a result. |
It’s been a legal requirement to fit thenm to any new vehicles since about 2012. I didn’t say anything about retrofitting. I’m not sure about the legality of disabling them cut as they’re a requirement of type approval I’d imagine disabling them would be legally dubious. But I don’t know. [Post edited 27 Jan 2019 20:17]
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| Daytime running lights on 20:10 - Jan 27 with 3631 views | valleyboy |
| Daytime running lights on 21:21 - Jan 26 by jack2jack |
Yes Dicky as from 2011, it was an EU directive.
Still think some are OTT
I believe Volvo were the first to have daytime running side lights, which were perfectly adequate, IMHO, but some cars are light up like Blackpool illuminations. |
Exactly
Another one of their EU directives like they insist that bananas must be straight within a certain band before they go on sale
It makes you wonder how the UK managed on their own, before we was dull enough to join such a undemocratic organisation, | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 20:21 - Jan 27 with 3614 views | Darran |
| Daytime running lights on 20:10 - Jan 27 by valleyboy |
Exactly
Another one of their EU directives like they insist that bananas must be straight within a certain band before they go on sale
It makes you wonder how the UK managed on their own, before we was dull enough to join such a undemocratic organisation, |
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| Daytime running lights on 20:22 - Jan 27 with 3614 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Daytime running lights on 20:10 - Jan 27 by valleyboy |
Exactly
Another one of their EU directives like they insist that bananas must be straight within a certain band before they go on sale
It makes you wonder how the UK managed on their own, before we was dull enough to join such a undemocratic organisation, |
Don’t forget the Eurosausage, or the “emulsified high fat offal tube” as the EU wanted to rename it. | |
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| Daytime running lights on 22:13 - Jan 27 with 3553 views | BytholWyn |
| Daytime running lights on 20:10 - Jan 27 by valleyboy |
Exactly
Another one of their EU directives like they insist that bananas must be straight within a certain band before they go on sale
It makes you wonder how the UK managed on their own, before we was dull enough to join such a undemocratic organisation, |
Not still peddling that myth are you ?
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/media/euromyths/bendybananas.html |  | | |
| Daytime running lights on 01:58 - Jan 28 with 3477 views | majorraglan |
| Daytime running lights on 19:05 - Jan 27 by exiledclaseboy |
It’s been a legal requirement to fit thenm to any new vehicles since about 2012. I didn’t say anything about retrofitting. I’m not sure about the legality of disabling them cut as they’re a requirement of type approval I’d imagine disabling them would be legally dubious. But I don’t know. [Post edited 27 Jan 2019 20:17]
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If they were disabled it would mean that the vehicle has been modified and should be reported as such to the owners insurance. No doubt potentially incurring an increased premium.
Personally DRL’s don’t bother me, much more important stuff to be concerned about. | | | |
| Daytime running lights on 09:14 - Jan 28 with 3393 views | karnataka |
| Daytime running lights on 19:05 - Jan 27 by exiledclaseboy |
It’s been a legal requirement to fit thenm to any new vehicles since about 2012. I didn’t say anything about retrofitting. I’m not sure about the legality of disabling them cut as they’re a requirement of type approval I’d imagine disabling them would be legally dubious. But I don’t know. [Post edited 27 Jan 2019 20:17]
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Wouldn't an MOT cover things like that? In some cases, certain features are not legally mandatory but if they are fitted, they have to work. |  | | |
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