| Independence march merthyr 08:15 - Sep 8 with 27876 views | CwmafanJack |
Did anyone make the trip? Great speakers eddie butler and neville southall. Thousands in attendance with thousands more not being able to make it as trains where full coming from cardiff. Also busts the myth that theres no support for independence in the south. Well done all. Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:00 - Sep 18 with 1248 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 20:57 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
Hell hath no fury like a Leanne fanboy scorned. |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:05 - Sep 18 with 1238 views | Catullus |
| Independence march merthyr on 19:27 - Sep 18 by ladyjack |
Leanne in trouble for defending a young collegue, WoL not mentioning Jaco's past or name I see. |
Now I read a report that said she was neing censored for using abusive language which is against the AM's code of conduct. The report also said that the Senedd investigation showed that the complainant hadn't verbally abused her.
She complains that jac is obnoxious and abusive so decides the best thing is to respond in kind. Aren't we supposed to expect better from our political elites? | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:06 - Sep 18 with 1235 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:05 - Sep 18 by Catullus |
Now I read a report that said she was neing censored for using abusive language which is against the AM's code of conduct. The report also said that the Senedd investigation showed that the complainant hadn't verbally abused her.
She complains that jac is obnoxious and abusive so decides the best thing is to respond in kind. Aren't we supposed to expect better from our political elites? |
She called him an arsehole. In twitter terns that’s almost a term of endearment. Let’s not overreact. |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:17 - Sep 18 with 1223 views | ladyjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:05 - Sep 18 by Catullus |
Now I read a report that said she was neing censored for using abusive language which is against the AM's code of conduct. The report also said that the Senedd investigation showed that the complainant hadn't verbally abused her.
She complains that jac is obnoxious and abusive so decides the best thing is to respond in kind. Aren't we supposed to expect better from our political elites? |
She had not long lost her friend and close colleague, I think the young man used to write some of her speeches [a terrible tragedy], jaco then made a comment on his replacement, I would guess it was the straw that broke the camels back, as on its own it was nothing but in context of snipping and more snipping and the comment was about a young lady just starting out, in the circumstances I think it was warranted. [Post edited 18 Sep 2019 21:21]
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:20 - Sep 18 with 1216 views | Catullus |
| Independence march merthyr on 22:53 - Sep 17 by ladyjack |
If there is a geopolitical spat try a news outlet of a third party.
Try blogs of individuals that are writing in a personal capacity and not for money.
Try tweets of interesting individuals.
Try award winning journalists, see what the likes of Robert Fisk and John Pilger are saying, check out al Jazeera news and vice news for a possible different slant on English outlets.
Check out overseas online English language newspapers for their take on events compared to the Western Mail, Sun, Daily Mail, Times etc. |
OK ladyjack,non UK news outlets like the NZ Herald maybe, www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12265853&mc_cid=5f27954ed2&mc_eid=b8ef8edeb6
The journo is actually pro remain. You see I do look at other news outlets.
Thing is, if you are recommending anyone to me it's probably because they back up your views. That's how the world works, we seek out those who agree with us. Pilger is often critical of the UK government (the USA too) because he judges them to have a hidden imperialist agenda. Fisk was accused of siding with Syria and of using Syrian and Russian propaganda. He writes for the independent so he could be called a left winger but probably says he's a lberal.
I read the Guardian too but very rarely do I bother with the Sun, the WM, Express. I read both left and right views an try to find the truth which isn't easy and I often fail. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:23 - Sep 18 with 1210 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:06 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
She called him an arsehole. In twitter terns that’s almost a term of endearment. Let’s not overreact. |
It’s hardly blood and thunder, you have to wonder what sort of an oddball would have expended the time and effort on making a formal complaint? | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:28 - Sep 18 with 1203 views | Catullus |
| Independence march merthyr on 23:10 - Sep 17 by BytholWyn |
Some very dodgy statements there. Based on a needs formula Wales is under-funded - so I have no idea where you get the idea from that "Wales gets more per head than most of England". Expenditure in England isn't equal, so poorer regions, such as the North-East, will receive far more per head in NHS expenditure, than the more affluent ones. The idea that we're getting a good deal from Westminster (especially when you factor in expenditure in non-devolved areas) is laughable.
The problem for us in Wales is that we're caught in a dependency trap. We are being denied the sort of investment, especially in infrastructure, that would be a game changer for the Welsh economy. This would have long-term knock-on benefits in terms of health and social care expenditure.
For as long as we are willing to accept peanuts from Westminster we will be trapped in the current vicious circle of an under-performing economy and all the social ills that come with that. The one thing that will make Westminster pay attention is if there's a credible threat of Wales becoming independent. Dic Sion Dafyddery gets the contempt it deserves. |
Based on which needs formula? I knwo the Barnett is outdated and not fit for purpose but which formula do you mean and who created it?
Now you are trying to obfuscate things. Wales gets more per head than most of England and, according to government figures NHS spending in Wales (per head) is 8% higher than in England. As at January 2018 Wales was spending £64 per head more than England on the NHS. Yet our NHS is in worse shape.
Figures can be twisted, spun and counter spun but Wales gets more money per head than any English region besides London, London effectively subsidises the rest of the UK. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:43 - Sep 18 with 1191 views | ladyjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:20 - Sep 18 by Catullus |
OK ladyjack,non UK news outlets like the NZ Herald maybe, www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12265853&mc_cid=5f27954ed2&mc_eid=b8ef8edeb6
The journo is actually pro remain. You see I do look at other news outlets.
Thing is, if you are recommending anyone to me it's probably because they back up your views. That's how the world works, we seek out those who agree with us. Pilger is often critical of the UK government (the USA too) because he judges them to have a hidden imperialist agenda. Fisk was accused of siding with Syria and of using Syrian and Russian propaganda. He writes for the independent so he could be called a left winger but probably says he's a lberal.
I read the Guardian too but very rarely do I bother with the Sun, the WM, Express. I read both left and right views an try to find the truth which isn't easy and I often fail. |
Its an Aussie tabloid journalist who writes for the right wing rag from News Corp stable which was Murdoch's lot.
NZ Herald is on the right and apparently they print material from our Daily Telegraph and the Independent.
If you don't want to recognise multiple award winners like Fisk, Pilger and Price [in his field] but give credence to lowly right wing tabloid journalists then you are the one that is guilty of advocating a biased position. | | | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:53 - Sep 18 with 1182 views | ladyjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:28 - Sep 18 by Catullus |
Based on which needs formula? I knwo the Barnett is outdated and not fit for purpose but which formula do you mean and who created it?
Now you are trying to obfuscate things. Wales gets more per head than most of England and, according to government figures NHS spending in Wales (per head) is 8% higher than in England. As at January 2018 Wales was spending £64 per head more than England on the NHS. Yet our NHS is in worse shape.
Figures can be twisted, spun and counter spun but Wales gets more money per head than any English region besides London, London effectively subsidises the rest of the UK. |
Are you saying that rich areas of a sovereign state should get as much as poor areas of a sovereign state ? | | | |
| Independence march merthyr on 22:10 - Sep 18 with 1172 views | Ebo |
| Independence march merthyr on 20:55 - Sep 18 by Brynmill_Jack |
Well you were the one trumping on about civilised debate. Just pointing out that statement is utter b*llocks. Likethe whole nationalist debate. |
You still refuse to research anything or be open-minded. I'd leave the thread if I was you as you have zero interest in independence. |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 18:06 - Sep 19 with 1089 views | Kilkennyjack |
Good point. |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:46 - Sep 19 with 1061 views | Catullus |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:23 - Sep 18 by Lohengrin |
It’s hardly blood and thunder, you have to wonder what sort of an oddball would have expended the time and effort on making a formal complaint? |
That's kind of irrelevant to me. He chose to complain and the relevant person decided the complaint had merit.
It doesn't matter what I think, I'm not over reacting to anything just stating what I saw on the news report. Then, ECB , I'm asking is it wrong to expect better? After all many of our politicians have been highly critical of any such language directed at them. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:47 - Sep 19 with 1061 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Independence march merthyr on 22:10 - Sep 18 by Ebo |
You still refuse to research anything or be open-minded. I'd leave the thread if I was you as you have zero interest in independence. |
Are you just figuring that out? Zero interest in independence is a gross under estimate. Remaining in the EU? Even f*cking less! |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 21:57 - Sep 19 with 1054 views | Catullus |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:53 - Sep 18 by ladyjack |
Are you saying that rich areas of a sovereign state should get as much as poor areas of a sovereign state ? |
Show me where I said anything like that. I said Wales gets more per head than most of England, we get 8% more per head in NHS spending which is roughly £64 per head, or was.
How does that equate to what you said? | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 09:02 - Sep 20 with 1011 views | Ebo |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:23 - Sep 18 by Lohengrin |
It’s hardly blood and thunder, you have to wonder what sort of an oddball would have expended the time and effort on making a formal complaint? |
I bet offline she called him a shitc unt | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 10:12 - Sep 20 with 994 views | LeonWasGod |
| Independence march merthyr on 18:06 - Sep 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Good point. |
Going of on a bit of a tangent, but scrolling down that thread there's a like to the Carbon brief site that shows the distribution of energy production and changes over time. It's a cracking little site for anyone intersted in energy. The manipulatable infographics are excellent.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-how-the-uk-generates-its-electricity |  | | |
| Independence march merthyr on 10:13 - Sep 20 with 993 views | Highjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 21:23 - Sep 18 by Lohengrin |
It’s hardly blood and thunder, you have to wonder what sort of an oddball would have expended the time and effort on making a formal complaint? |
Probably begins with M and ends in t6. |  |
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| Independence march merthyr on 10:16 - Sep 20 with 991 views | Highjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 18:06 - Sep 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Good point. |
Is there a possibility that graph is skewed by the fact north wales and Scotland are amongst the coldest and most rural places in the country and therefore will spend more on energy anyway? | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 10:24 - Sep 20 with 985 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 10:13 - Sep 20 by Highjack |
Probably begins with M and ends in t6. |
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| Independence march merthyr on 10:34 - Sep 20 with 984 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 10:16 - Sep 20 by Highjack |
Is there a possibility that graph is skewed by the fact north wales and Scotland are amongst the coldest and most rural places in the country and therefore will spend more on energy anyway? |
Clear thinking there, High. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 11:13 - Sep 20 with 968 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 09:02 - Sep 20 by Ebo |
I bet offline she called him a shitc unt |
Oh! I don’t doubt it. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 11:20 - Sep 20 with 962 views | Highjack |
| Independence march merthyr on 10:34 - Sep 20 by Lohengrin |
Clear thinking there, High. |
Thank god for that. It seemed so obvious I felt silly pointing it out. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 11:23 - Sep 20 with 958 views | Lohengrin |
| Independence march merthyr on 11:20 - Sep 20 by Highjack |
Thank god for that. It seemed so obvious I felt silly pointing it out. |
This is 2019, mate. The obvious needs to be constantly highlighted. | |
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| Independence march merthyr on 15:26 - Sep 20 with 923 views | LeonWasGod |
| Independence march merthyr on 10:16 - Sep 20 by Highjack |
Is there a possibility that graph is skewed by the fact north wales and Scotland are amongst the coldest and most rural places in the country and therefore will spend more on energy anyway? |
Don't you normally get a discount for buying in bulk? | | | |
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