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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump 23:32 - Aug 11 with 31540 viewsKerouac

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How do you think she will play it?

How will Trump play it? I'm sure he will attack Biden personally but does his campaign focus on discrediting Harris?

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 09:32 - Aug 16 with 1397 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 09:17 - Aug 16 by Best_loser

Obama created 12 million jobs

If trump is so great then how come the people he appoints to his administration keep getting sacked or they quit in disgust

Didn't he say he only picks the best people

Lots of republicans oppose trump, , they don't want their legacy to show they supported someone like him


That’s the much laughed at Obama way of working out job creation 14m yeah? Closer to half that is more accurate and of course more than double the time and yet the economy went backwards.

Trump is a hard task master and no doubt isn’t the easiest to get along with. But again the politics is all that matters, it’s not Facebook.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:06 - Aug 16 with 1356 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 07:27 - Aug 16 by Best_loser

What successes ?

Do you mean increasing the USA national debt to 27 TRILLION

Or adding just 3 miles to the wall he promised to build

You know trump is a crook, for some reason you choose to ignore it and spin a load of bs

Come November if an election takes place, it will not be alt right on the night


I suggest that you read some history on the US National Debt.
Try this for starters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Note where the increase in National debt took off, yes that's right 2008.
In the 8 years under the great Obama it went from $9trillion to $20trillion.
He doubled it in 7 years when there were no major emergencies in the US.


As to your ludicrous 3 miles of wall, you really should try and read more.
It stood at 200 miles back in June.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:16 - Aug 16 with 1347 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 09:17 - Aug 16 by Best_loser

Obama created 12 million jobs

If trump is so great then how come the people he appoints to his administration keep getting sacked or they quit in disgust

Didn't he say he only picks the best people

Lots of republicans oppose trump, , they don't want their legacy to show they supported someone like him


The problem was the Obama jobs were not long term jobs.
Read this for just some of them and what they cost.

https://www.dividedstates.com/

There have been many more since that was written.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:54 - Aug 16 with 1332 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 02:24 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

I don't want 100% of the vote to be changed to a postal vote as per the suggestion, no. Due to its obvious unreliable nature. This has been shown clearly by NY and other areas that have a similar rejection rate, and that's just for the presumably genuine ballots.

Trump's actions is to undermine the Postal Service in order for a far more reliable, sensible and democratic voting system to have to be turned to. Trump is refusing to give them EXTRA funds in order to process the whole vote, he isn't stopping them processing a normal level of postal voting.


This is just completely wrong. You’re living in your own reality. See you in a couple of months when you’re justifying mass closure of polling stations and voter intimidation.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:55 - Aug 16 with 1330 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:06 - Aug 16 by A_Fans_Dad

I suggest that you read some history on the US National Debt.
Try this for starters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Note where the increase in National debt took off, yes that's right 2008.
In the 8 years under the great Obama it went from $9trillion to $20trillion.
He doubled it in 7 years when there were no major emergencies in the US.


As to your ludicrous 3 miles of wall, you really should try and read more.
It stood at 200 miles back in June.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi


Obama didn’t become President until 2009 you wet wipe. Trumps got a Trillion dollar deficit. That fiscal responsibility for you.

“No major emergencies in the US”

Yeah not like there was a major financial collapse or anything months before he took office...
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:06 - Aug 16 with 1320 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:54 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

This is just completely wrong. You’re living in your own reality. See you in a couple of months when you’re justifying mass closure of polling stations and voter intimidation.


Which part is wrong specifically?

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:12 - Aug 16 with 1316 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:55 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

Obama didn’t become President until 2009 you wet wipe. Trumps got a Trillion dollar deficit. That fiscal responsibility for you.

“No major emergencies in the US”

Yeah not like there was a major financial collapse or anything months before he took office...
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So that’s less of a deficit than both Bush and Obama then who topped $1.4 trillion.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:14 - Aug 16 with 1314 viewsBest_loser

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:06 - Aug 16 by A_Fans_Dad

I suggest that you read some history on the US National Debt.
Try this for starters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Note where the increase in National debt took off, yes that's right 2008.
In the 8 years under the great Obama it went from $9trillion to $20trillion.
He doubled it in 7 years when there were no major emergencies in the US.


As to your ludicrous 3 miles of wall, you really should try and read more.
It stood at 200 miles back in June.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi


https://www.latimes.com/politi


Most of that is replacement of the wall already there before trump

Only 3 miles of new wall
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:18 - Aug 16 with 1309 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:14 - Aug 16 by Best_loser

https://www.latimes.com/politi


Most of that is replacement of the wall already there before trump

Only 3 miles of new wall


I’m just glad that this is the extent of the issues levelled at his administration after 6 pages of discussion that wasn’t an already existing problem upon taking over. Unless you fall back on character assassination... there really is little else.

I enjoy debating with Democrat supporters while ensuring they stay on the topic of actual politics. They don’t ever tend to last very long.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:26 - Aug 16 with 1302 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:12 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

So that’s less of a deficit than both Bush and Obama then who topped $1.4 trillion.


Deficits are good now then. Good to know because they weren’t for the 8 years the black man was president.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:32 - Aug 16 with 1295 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:26 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

Deficits are good now then. Good to know because they weren’t for the 8 years the black man was president.


It only took 1 page of discussions before someone made it about race. Interesting, usually it’s a lot sooner.

Deficits aren’t good, but they are expected, the less the better. This current administrations deficit has not reached the levels of the black president or the Southern white one (or Obama and Bush to normal people who wish to discuss politics and not race).

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:44 - Aug 16 with 1281 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:32 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

It only took 1 page of discussions before someone made it about race. Interesting, usually it’s a lot sooner.

Deficits aren’t good, but they are expected, the less the better. This current administrations deficit has not reached the levels of the black president or the Southern white one (or Obama and Bush to normal people who wish to discuss politics and not race).


Trumps running higher deficits in his first term than Obama ran in his second so you’re also wrong on that one.

Obama’s deficit in 2016 was $585 billion. Trumps deficit in 2019 was just shy of $1 trillion.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:55 - Aug 16 with 1270 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:44 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

Trumps running higher deficits in his first term than Obama ran in his second so you’re also wrong on that one.

Obama’s deficit in 2016 was $585 billion. Trumps deficit in 2019 was just shy of $1 trillion.


Huh? Where on earth was I wrong?

You have a habit of telling people they are wrong and then making up what they said in order to make a case. I’m afraid that tactic doesn’t work in a discussion with people that are able to spot that immediately, as inconvenient as that is.

Highest deficits in the following administrations:-

Bush (white) - $1.4 trillion
Obama (brown) - $1.3 trillion
Trump (orange) - $1 trillion

So as I correctly stated, this administration’s deficit (much of which presidents have little control over) have not reached that of the Bush or the Obama administrations.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:02 - Aug 16 with 1260 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 12:55 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

Huh? Where on earth was I wrong?

You have a habit of telling people they are wrong and then making up what they said in order to make a case. I’m afraid that tactic doesn’t work in a discussion with people that are able to spot that immediately, as inconvenient as that is.

Highest deficits in the following administrations:-

Bush (white) - $1.4 trillion
Obama (brown) - $1.3 trillion
Trump (orange) - $1 trillion

So as I correctly stated, this administration’s deficit (much of which presidents have little control over) have not reached that of the Bush or the Obama administrations.


So you are a professional goalpost mover. You said Trumps deficits hadn’t reached Obama levels. I pointed out that you’re incorrect. Trump has run deficits that have exceeded deficits run by Obama.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:05 - Aug 16 with 1257 viewsHighjack

Are we really arguing about who has the biggest deficits?

Trump bad

Biden senile

That’s their choice.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:09 - Aug 16 with 1253 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:02 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

So you are a professional goalpost mover. You said Trumps deficits hadn’t reached Obama levels. I pointed out that you’re incorrect. Trump has run deficits that have exceeded deficits run by Obama.


Don’t be so pedantic and disingenuous.

Deficit levels go up and down constantly of course we will see some cross over. Trumps $1bn that you seem to be misrepresenting as shocking and not normal is less than both the previous incumbents deficits got to. If it makes you happy to state that at some point in time it was less in the past then be my guest.

But again, both Obama and Bush’s deficits were far greater than Trumps, some 30-40% greater in fact.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:11 - Aug 16 with 1251 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:05 - Aug 16 by Highjack

Are we really arguing about who has the biggest deficits?

Trump bad

Biden senile

That’s their choice.


We are discussing anything and everything apart from actual politics and policies. The usual stuff when discussing politics with Democrats and lefties.

Fun.. but a little tiresome and predictable.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:13 - Aug 16 with 1250 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:05 - Aug 16 by Highjack

Are we really arguing about who has the biggest deficits?

Trump bad

Biden senile

That’s their choice.


Highjack to the rescue to passively challenge the people challenging racists, fascists etc. You name it, he’s there to make snide comments in defence of the people he agrees with but is too cowardly to endorse.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:18 - Aug 16 with 1247 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:09 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

Don’t be so pedantic and disingenuous.

Deficit levels go up and down constantly of course we will see some cross over. Trumps $1bn that you seem to be misrepresenting as shocking and not normal is less than both the previous incumbents deficits got to. If it makes you happy to state that at some point in time it was less in the past then be my guest.

But again, both Obama and Bush’s deficits were far greater than Trumps, some 30-40% greater in fact.


It’s your words.

How am I misrepresenting Trumps near $1trillion deficit? It is what it is. Obama has a large deficit when the economy was in the tank, and when it began to recover he brought it down. Trump inherited a growing economy and has increased the deficit after he said he’d eliminate it within 8 years. Bad start but I guess those tax cuts he gave himself couldn’t wait.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:21 - Aug 16 with 1245 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:18 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

It’s your words.

How am I misrepresenting Trumps near $1trillion deficit? It is what it is. Obama has a large deficit when the economy was in the tank, and when it began to recover he brought it down. Trump inherited a growing economy and has increased the deficit after he said he’d eliminate it within 8 years. Bad start but I guess those tax cuts he gave himself couldn’t wait.


It’s a bit like saying Ronaldo scored more than Trundle. Then you saying “well actually after 3 games in their career Trundle scored more”. That’s clearly not what is being discussed. A bit like when you compared a murder rate with visible crime to ballot fraud, an invisible one.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:23 - Aug 16 with 1239 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:21 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

It’s a bit like saying Ronaldo scored more than Trundle. Then you saying “well actually after 3 games in their career Trundle scored more”. That’s clearly not what is being discussed. A bit like when you compared a murder rate with visible crime to ballot fraud, an invisible one.

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If you say so 😂
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:24 - Aug 16 with 1237 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:13 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

Highjack to the rescue to passively challenge the people challenging racists, fascists etc. You name it, he’s there to make snide comments in defence of the people he agrees with but is too cowardly to endorse.


Weren't you the only one to bring race up from nowhere?

All leftists do that when losing a debate. Racist, Nazi, white supremacist - they all get trotted out.

I even saw a black man get accused of white privilege the other week which was a particular high point.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:28 - Aug 16 with 1232 viewsAce_Jack

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:24 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

Weren't you the only one to bring race up from nowhere?

All leftists do that when losing a debate. Racist, Nazi, white supremacist - they all get trotted out.

I even saw a black man get accused of white privilege the other week which was a particular high point.


Trumps defended neo nazis, he’s openly encouraging foreign countries to meddle in US elections, and he’s trying to disrupt the next one.

He’s a literal racist and a fascist.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:34 - Aug 16 with 1228 viewsDr_Parnassus

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:23 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

If you say so 😂


Isn’t it the same then?

Cherry picking two points in the deficit line, taking the highest from one administration and towards the lowest of the one previous and comparing them. A bit silly really isn’t it. Certainly not relevant at best.

You presented Trump’s deficit (again I loosely say Trumps) as something out of the ordinary, conveniently leaving out that the previous two double term presidents both ran theirs at even higher rates. Meaning Trumps largest deficit ranks as the lowest top defect in any administration in decades.

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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:42 - Aug 16 with 1221 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:13 - Aug 16 by Ace_Jack

Highjack to the rescue to passively challenge the people challenging racists, fascists etc. You name it, he’s there to make snide comments in defence of the people he agrees with but is too cowardly to endorse.


Typical TDS.
Resort to verbal abuse of the worst kind.
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