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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? 09:53 - Dec 13 with 33364 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The actions of Governments all over the world are shaped on the basis of the PCR COVID test results.
For months now there have been serious question marks over the accuracy of the tests.
Well now there is a definitive study on the original research and it's world wide adoption which is totally condemning.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/

This does not decry the deaths that occur with COVID-19, but there are also many questions over the counting of them as well.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:47 - Dec 14 with 1595 viewsAndy1300

I guess these lives won’t matter because they are not covid?

I guess they will be classed as covid though, it keeps the fear factor high.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/hea

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:48 - Dec 14 with 1592 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:34 - Dec 14 by Andy1300

How are they allowed to get away with calling positive results cases?

Surely a case is when you fall ill with the virus.

The virus is real but we are all being conned.


It would be fine not a consider a positive test a case if asymptomatic cases weren't contagious, but they are so need to be treated as someone who is ill.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:49 - Dec 14 with 1592 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:47 - Dec 14 by Andy1300

I guess these lives won’t matter because they are not covid?

I guess they will be classed as covid though, it keeps the fear factor high.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/hea


They will be along shortly to state that 5his professor doesn’t count.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:52 - Dec 14 with 1584 viewsAndy1300

Why do people still pursue the direction of travel when everyone knows that you cannot stop a virus spreading?

All these restrictions and lockdowns are doing is delaying the inevitable and causing unnecessary deaths and jobs as a result

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:53 - Dec 14 with 1584 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:47 - Dec 14 by Andy1300

I guess these lives won’t matter because they are not covid?

I guess they will be classed as covid though, it keeps the fear factor high.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/hea


Of course they count.

Lock down and restrictions are the only way that the NHS has any chance of treating both covid and other patients.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:54 - Dec 14 with 1583 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:48 - Dec 14 by Scotia

It would be fine not a consider a positive test a case if asymptomatic cases weren't contagious, but they are so need to be treated as someone who is ill.


How do you know that, it is not what Fauci said about test cycles over 35, he said that they were dead particles, they could not get a viable virus from them.
So what proof do you have that they can all spread it?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:59 - Dec 14 with 1571 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:48 - Dec 14 by Scotia

It would be fine not a consider a positive test a case if asymptomatic cases weren't contagious, but they are so need to be treated as someone who is ill.


Case definitions are often used to label individuals as suspect, probable, or confirmed cases. For example, in the investigation of an outbreak of pneumococcal pneumonia in a nursing home the case definition may be specified as:

Suspect Case: All residents of Nursing Home A with onset of cough and fever between January 1, 2008 and February 1, 2008.
Probable Case: Meet the suspect case definition plus have pneumonia on chest X-ray.
Confirmed Case: Meet the probable case definition plus have pneumococcal infection confirmed by blood culture or other isolation of pneumococci from normally sterile site.
By creating a case definition, public health professionals are better equipped to study an outbreak and determine possible causes.

So why are positive test results all classed as cases? Because it keeps up the pretence!
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:02 - Dec 14 with 1561 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:53 - Dec 14 by Scotia

Of course they count.

Lock down and restrictions are the only way that the NHS has any chance of treating both covid and other patients.


But it has the same struggles every winter, the difference this year is that other people are going to die when they should not.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:18 - Dec 14 with 1534 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:54 - Dec 14 by A_Fans_Dad

How do you know that, it is not what Fauci said about test cycles over 35, he said that they were dead particles, they could not get a viable virus from them.
So what proof do you have that they can all spread it?


That's because they were recovering from the virus but would have been contagious earlier in their infection. Apparently a couple of days before symptoms appear and a week afterwards is when someone is most contagious.

Nobody is immune from asymptomatic spread, not even the big man himself.

https://news.sky.com/story/cov
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:20 - Dec 14 with 1533 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:02 - Dec 14 by Andy1300

But it has the same struggles every winter, the difference this year is that other people are going to die when they should not.


NHS trusts occasionally have to stop non urgent treatment in a particularly bad winter season. Usually in about February.

Two in Wales have already had to do so.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:40 - Dec 14 with 1520 viewsjack2jack

Is the Nightingale hospital still open on Fabian Way.🤔
Anyone,please
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 22:39 - Dec 14 with 1479 viewsAndy1300


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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 07:51 - Dec 15 with 1437 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:40 - Dec 14 by jack2jack

Is the Nightingale hospital still open on Fabian Way.🤔
Anyone,please
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It was an antibody test centre and will be a vaccination centre.

The problem with the Nightingale hospitals at that we never had the staff to work in them.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:33 - Dec 15 with 1418 viewscontroversial_jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:43 - Dec 14 by shingle

I see the UK media aka Sky news are now reporting Sweden has gone in to turmoil and they are having to send patients to neighboring countries to die or get treated, yet when you go and check the statistics on the truthful independent outlets they have not registered more than twenty deaths a day during the last 7 months, all a bit strange, and no one seems to question why a country for what seems that they never locked down are up against such a propaganda of lies from the likes of the UK.
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Sweden are getting a lot more cases than we are at the moment, given the population difference.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:44 - Dec 15 with 1413 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:40 - Dec 14 by jack2jack

Is the Nightingale hospital still open on Fabian Way.🤔
Anyone,please
[Post edited 14 Dec 2020 20:45]


They were prepping it in readiness but I don't think it's open apart from being a testing centre. You can book an appointment down there for a blood test.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:55 - Dec 15 with 1377 viewsA_Fans_Dad

This is what a decent Government & National health system provides to it's people who get COVID-19.



1,386,160,236 people and 104 Deaths/Million
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 16:46 - Dec 15 with 1365 viewsmajorraglan

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:33 - Dec 15 by controversial_jack

Sweden are getting a lot more cases than we are at the moment, given the population difference.


It’s going through the roof here at the moment, sadly I think there’s big trouble ahead.

People need to use their heads, I know of at least 25 people who’ve had it in the last few weeks and quite a few more who have had to Self Isolate and 2 of them have sadly lost their fight against the illness.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 17:40 - Dec 15 with 1351 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Prof, can you explain what this study means?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:12 - Dec 15 with 1326 viewsProfessor

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 17:40 - Dec 15 by A_Fans_Dad

Prof, can you explain what this study means?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go


Using clinical samples to infect Vero cells (Green Monkey kidney) they find that infectivity is related to the Ct value of one of the SARS CoV2 genes. They suggest a lower Ct means greater infection rate with a cut off around 25 cycles.

This is, however, not the diagnostic target gene in the U.K.

The best publication relating to the Ct values and viral isolation is this:

https://www.eurosurveillance.o


But bear in mind viral culture is not easy and needs a fairly large number of horizons to infect in cell
Culture.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:13 - Dec 15 with 1326 viewsshingle

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:33 - Dec 15 by controversial_jack

Sweden are getting a lot more cases than we are at the moment, given the population difference.


But there death rate is low even when the rates rise, they have had no more then 20 deaths in a day for over seven months, they never locked down and to this day continue to provide normal health care which no doubt has saved so many lives, now all this seems to go over the heads of people like yourself, its as if you are afraid to see any positives, or when you see a report from the uk media you just believe what they say without going to check the facts yourself, i can assure you Sweden are a lot better off than the UK.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:25 - Dec 15 with 1321 viewsshingle

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 16:46 - Dec 15 by majorraglan

It’s going through the roof here at the moment, sadly I think there’s big trouble ahead.

People need to use their heads, I know of at least 25 people who’ve had it in the last few weeks and quite a few more who have had to Self Isolate and 2 of them have sadly lost their fight against the illness.


If that is the case how come no more than Twenty have died in a day for at least 7 months even when there is a surge in cases, granted they messed up with the care homes back in March and had a large amount of deaths but since they sorted that out the death rate is far lower than even a small country like Wales and despite the doom and gloom being reported over the last few months for a country that never locked down the daily death rates remain low compared to the UK.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:27 - Dec 15 with 1313 viewsProfessor

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:13 - Dec 15 by shingle

But there death rate is low even when the rates rise, they have had no more then 20 deaths in a day for over seven months, they never locked down and to this day continue to provide normal health care which no doubt has saved so many lives, now all this seems to go over the heads of people like yourself, its as if you are afraid to see any positives, or when you see a report from the uk media you just believe what they say without going to check the facts yourself, i can assure you Sweden are a lot better off than the UK.


over 100 a day at present. Equivalent to around 600 per day in the UK.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:15 - Dec 15 with 1285 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:27 - Dec 15 by Professor

over 100 a day at present. Equivalent to around 600 per day in the UK.


? Where do you get your figures from, the worldometer website is showing 20 for Sweden today, and 6 yesterday.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 22:06 - Dec 15 with 1266 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:15 - Dec 15 by Jack123

? Where do you get your figures from, the worldometer website is showing 20 for Sweden today, and 6 yesterday.


https://www.worldometers.info/

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 22:35 - Dec 15 with 1250 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 22:06 - Dec 15 by Andy1300

https://www.worldometers.info/


Thanks, I was going to put that link, look's like the thing they call the second wave, for Sweden started at the very start of November, and dropped dramatically after the first week of December.

Edit: Just to add, I'm talking about the death figures.
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