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Thank you Welsh government 13:05 - Mar 17 with 17115 viewsCountyJim

Giving all Health care workers a one off bonus of 735 before tax so around 500 after

That's more than they are getting in England
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Thank you Welsh government on 13:39 - May 1 with 1424 viewsraynor94

Thank you Welsh government on 13:32 - May 1 by Whiterockin

Its £735 before deductions £500 net.


Fair enough then

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Thank you Welsh government on 14:36 - May 1 with 1394 viewsCatullus

Thank you Welsh government on 13:12 - May 1 by trampie

The Senedd would be powerless to block a Tory government from effectively privatising the NHS via a free trade deal with the US for example.
Trade deals are not within the powers of the Senedd.


They have told the USa already that the NHS is not on the table in any trade deal, they had that argument.

It would be interesting to see how the Senedd would react to what you say, I reckon Drakeford would disagree with you. Healthcare is legally devolved to Wales, Westminster cannot touch it, I'm fairly sure just from a lega standpoint you are wrong but maybe there's someone who knows better thn me can give us facts.

That's the problem with your post Trampie, it's a supposistion, do you have any evidence for what you say?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Thank you Welsh government on 15:34 - May 1 with 1374 viewstrampie

Thank you Welsh government on 14:36 - May 1 by Catullus

They have told the USa already that the NHS is not on the table in any trade deal, they had that argument.

It would be interesting to see how the Senedd would react to what you say, I reckon Drakeford would disagree with you. Healthcare is legally devolved to Wales, Westminster cannot touch it, I'm fairly sure just from a lega standpoint you are wrong but maybe there's someone who knows better thn me can give us facts.

That's the problem with your post Trampie, it's a supposistion, do you have any evidence for what you say?


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

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Thank you Welsh government on 15:43 - May 1 with 1364 viewsCatullus

Thank you Welsh government on 15:34 - May 1 by trampie

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/


That's November 2019 and Bojo has since said more than once the NHS is NOT on the table.

You got anything up to date?

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Thank you Welsh government on 15:57 - May 1 with 1341 viewsFlashberryjack

Thank you Welsh government on 15:43 - May 1 by Catullus

That's November 2019 and Bojo has since said more than once the NHS is NOT on the table.

You got anything up to date?


You and Boris can say the "NHS is not for sale" until you're blue in the face, some only hear what they want to hear.

It would be political suicide for any prime minister or party if they sold off the NHS.
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Thank you Welsh government on 16:08 - May 1 with 1338 viewstrampie

Thank you Welsh government on 15:43 - May 1 by Catullus

That's November 2019 and Bojo has since said more than once the NHS is NOT on the table.

You got anything up to date?


You said Cat "The Welsh NHS is devolved so even if England privatised Wales is separate, do you understand that?"

The link I put up is as close to touching on that topic as you are likely to find.

Wales would need full independence to make its own laws and do international trade deals, devolution is a long way short of independence.

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Thank you Welsh government on 17:10 - May 1 with 1315 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Thank you Welsh government on 15:57 - May 1 by Flashberryjack

You and Boris can say the "NHS is not for sale" until you're blue in the face, some only hear what they want to hear.

It would be political suicide for any prime minister or party if they sold off the NHS.
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It is labour in Wales that is privatising the NHS with the PFI funding Velindre Cancer hospital.

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Thank you Welsh government on 09:05 - Jan 20 with 1121 viewsCountyJim

And thanks again to our Welsh government all nhs staff under band 5 getting extra 1% on top of the 3% announced extra days leave and one off 200 quid

I'm glad we have a government that treats its staff with greater respect than bo jos lot
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Thank you Welsh government on 09:08 - Jan 20 with 1115 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Thank you Welsh government on 09:05 - Jan 20 by CountyJim

And thanks again to our Welsh government all nhs staff under band 5 getting extra 1% on top of the 3% announced extra days leave and one off 200 quid

I'm glad we have a government that treats its staff with greater respect than bo jos lot


All paid for no doubt with the huge Subsidies from the UK government.

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Thank you Welsh government on 09:21 - Jan 20 with 1098 viewsCountyJim

Thank you Welsh government on 09:08 - Jan 20 by felixstowe_jack

All paid for no doubt with the huge Subsidies from the UK government.


Bojo spending his on office parties Mark spending his on looking after his Welsh nhs staff
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Thank you Welsh government on 09:24 - Jan 20 with 1093 viewsjack_lord

Thank you Welsh government on 09:05 - Jan 20 by CountyJim

And thanks again to our Welsh government all nhs staff under band 5 getting extra 1% on top of the 3% announced extra days leave and one off 200 quid

I'm glad we have a government that treats its staff with greater respect than bo jos lot


What about the staff above that banding?
My wife was kicked in the teeth last time. When they changed the spinal points a couple of years ago she actually had a pay put after the pay freeze.

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Thank you Welsh government on 09:25 - Jan 20 with 1090 viewsjack_lord

Thank you Welsh government on 09:08 - Jan 20 by felixstowe_jack

All paid for no doubt with the huge Subsidies from the UK government.


Which Wales is part of.

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Thank you Welsh government on 09:28 - Jan 20 with 1085 viewsCatullus

Thank you Welsh government on 09:05 - Jan 20 by CountyJim

And thanks again to our Welsh government all nhs staff under band 5 getting extra 1% on top of the 3% announced extra days leave and one off 200 quid

I'm glad we have a government that treats its staff with greater respect than bo jos lot


After tax and pension my wife got 148. 1% is what, 16 quid per month for a band 3. Inflation is currently at anything from 5.1 to 7% and some think it's higher. Petrol up by 10%, gas up by 30-50%.
Ok everything extra helps but we are thrown crumbs unlike the politicians who always seem to get the big rises.

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Thank you Welsh government on 09:45 - Jan 20 with 1075 viewsCountyJim

Thank you Welsh government on 09:24 - Jan 20 by jack_lord

What about the staff above that banding?
My wife was kicked in the teeth last time. When they changed the spinal points a couple of years ago she actually had a pay put after the pay freeze.


We don't get enhancements that band 5 and above get

This is all part of the leveling up which was announced by Welsh government for lower paid staff
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Thank you Welsh government on 10:33 - Jan 20 with 1057 viewsjack_lord

Thank you Welsh government on 09:45 - Jan 20 by CountyJim

We don't get enhancements that band 5 and above get

This is all part of the leveling up which was announced by Welsh government for lower paid staff


What enhancements do band five and over get? It is great that the bands are getting an increase because inflation, thanks to energy and fuel, is crippling many people.

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Thank you Welsh government on 10:35 - Jan 20 with 1055 viewsCountyJim

Thank you Welsh government on 10:33 - Jan 20 by jack_lord

What enhancements do band five and over get? It is great that the bands are getting an increase because inflation, thanks to energy and fuel, is crippling many people.


When they have the yearly personal development review
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Thank you Welsh government on 13:22 - Jan 20 with 1019 viewsmajorraglan

Thank you Welsh government on 10:33 - Jan 20 by jack_lord

What enhancements do band five and over get? It is great that the bands are getting an increase because inflation, thanks to energy and fuel, is crippling many people.


Band 5s get the 1%, annual pay rise and extra 1 day AL, band 6 and above get the annual rise and the extra AL day.
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Thank you Welsh government on 14:39 - Jan 20 with 997 viewsKilkennyjack

Thank you Welsh government on 09:08 - Jan 20 by felixstowe_jack

All paid for no doubt with the huge Subsidies from the UK government.


The UK has no money.
The UK has debt.

UK general government gross debt was £2,224.5 billion at the end of financial year ending March 2021, equivalent to 106.0% of gross domestic product (GDP).

UK general government gross debt was 13.1 percentage points above the average of the 27 European Union (EU) member states at the same point in time.

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Thank you Welsh government on 14:41 - Jan 20 with 996 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Thank you Welsh government on 14:39 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack

The UK has no money.
The UK has debt.

UK general government gross debt was £2,224.5 billion at the end of financial year ending March 2021, equivalent to 106.0% of gross domestic product (GDP).

UK general government gross debt was 13.1 percentage points above the average of the 27 European Union (EU) member states at the same point in time.


Wonder how they ran up so much debt . Probably handing out billions to Wales and Scotland in subsidies over the year. Wonder how an independent Wales and Scotland would replace their subsidies.

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Thank you Welsh government on 15:22 - Jan 20 with 986 viewsjack_lord

Thank you Welsh government on 13:22 - Jan 20 by majorraglan

Band 5s get the 1%, annual pay rise and extra 1 day AL, band 6 and above get the annual rise and the extra AL day.


What annual pay rise? My wife hasnt had a pay rise this year?

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Thank you Welsh government on 15:51 - Jan 20 with 979 viewsCatullus

Thank you Welsh government on 14:39 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack

The UK has no money.
The UK has debt.

UK general government gross debt was £2,224.5 billion at the end of financial year ending March 2021, equivalent to 106.0% of gross domestic product (GDP).

UK general government gross debt was 13.1 percentage points above the average of the 27 European Union (EU) member states at the same point in time.


Of course the UK has money, having debt doesn't mean no money, it's just more hyperbole from you.

I'm sure you mean TRILLION btw!

OK, we are 13 percentage points above the average, some are better than us but how many are worse? Come on Kilky, be honest, how many EU member states have worse debt than us?
The answer is 2, France and Italy (2.65T and 2.573T respectively)
https://www.statista.com/stati So do they not have any money? Their unemployment rates are 8.2 and 10.5% respectively, the UK's is 3.8%. EU inflation is roughly the same as the UK, so who is worse off, the UK or Italy and France? Does this mean those two countries need to break up?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Thank you Welsh government on 22:20 - Jan 20 with 917 viewsmajorraglan

Thank you Welsh government on 15:22 - Jan 20 by jack_lord

What annual pay rise? My wife hasnt had a pay rise this year?


By this year I meant 2021, the 1% payment was paid this month.

https://gov.wales/written-stat
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Thank you Welsh government on 23:11 - Jan 20 with 903 viewsKilkennyjack

Thank you Welsh government on 14:41 - Jan 20 by felixstowe_jack

Wonder how they ran up so much debt . Probably handing out billions to Wales and Scotland in subsidies over the year. Wonder how an independent Wales and Scotland would replace their subsidies.


Almost certainly Tory govt financial mismanagement.

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Thank you Welsh government on 08:18 - Jan 21 with 858 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Thank you Welsh government on 23:11 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack

Almost certainly Tory govt financial mismanagement.


Then how does Wales manage to raise far less tax and spend more per person than the UK average and a lot worse England.

20 years of labour mismanagement in the Welsh Assembly aka senedd.

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Thank you Welsh government on 10:21 - Jan 21 with 833 viewsCatullus

Thank you Welsh government on 23:11 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack

Almost certainly Tory govt financial mismanagement.


When the Tories got back into power they had been left a record debt AND deficit by Labour. debt was still rising because until the deficit was cancelled out the debt was bound to rise.

Then of course we had the pandemic which has caused very many countries to take on masses of extra debt.

So, you could say the current problems stem back to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

Of course, when the realities of debt are pointed out to you you either run and hide or say that nearly every country has deficit and debt so why cant Wales. Its basically that you just take any reason to attack the Westminster government whether it's valid or not.

Shall we talk about Welsh Labours financial mismanagement?

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