| Tax rises 12:48 - Apr 20 with 3059 views | pencoedjack |
Getting ready all you working people in Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56667000
Border town house prices will rocket when high earners start moving out of Wales & commuting in.
Are we really going to have 5 more years of these backward thinking tossers. |  | | |  |
| Tax rises on 13:24 - Apr 20 with 1417 views | Slugster664 |
What have I just read?!!
This bit was special...
"We've lived through an extraordinary 12 months, people I think want to have a government that they know is capable, competent and committed, and we'll finish that job, but we're more than that."
We have to rid ourselves of this party, surely to God even the daftest of us Welsh can see through them  |  |
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| Tax rises on 13:33 - Apr 20 with 1410 views | pencoedjack |
| Tax rises on 13:24 - Apr 20 by Slugster664 |
What have I just read?!!
This bit was special...
"We've lived through an extraordinary 12 months, people I think want to have a government that they know is capable, competent and committed, and we'll finish that job, but we're more than that."
We have to rid ourselves of this party, surely to God even the daftest of us Welsh can see through them |
I bet they don’t
It’s criminal that these idiots will be back turning Wales into Albania. | | | |
| Tax rises on 13:57 - Apr 20 with 1394 views | Professor |
All those border towns that are already much more expensive than the Welsh equivalent then? Tax is going up across the UK either directly or indirectly regardless of your political view. Nowhere does it state tax will rise, just the honesty of that it may. Which it may or may not.
Just to illustrate the average house price in my town in Cheshire is 249K, in Broughton over the border it's 190K. A lot of commuting is the other way-from SE to Bristol too. |  | | |
| Tax rises on 13:57 - Apr 20 with 1392 views | Catullus |
Well it'll be the Senedd that decides when the economic situation is right ans this is pretty much a guarantee that us Welsh will pay more income tax.
We already get more funding per head than most of England and the Senedd wants more but what will they do with it?
There will be riots if they increase tax and pour more into Cardiff!! | |
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| Tax rises on 13:58 - Apr 20 with 1388 views | pikeypaul |
Wales and the Welsh sheep voters get what they deserve. No sympathy from me . |  |
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| Tax rises on 14:00 - Apr 20 with 1382 views | Dr_Winston |
| Tax rises on 13:57 - Apr 20 by Catullus |
Well it'll be the Senedd that decides when the economic situation is right ans this is pretty much a guarantee that us Welsh will pay more income tax.
We already get more funding per head than most of England and the Senedd wants more but what will they do with it?
There will be riots if they increase tax and pour more into Cardiff!! |
No there won't. Everyone will keep sucking it up and voting largely the same way like they have since 1999. |  |
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| Tax rises on 14:06 - Apr 20 with 1379 views | Professor |
| Tax rises on 13:58 - Apr 20 by pikeypaul |
Wales and the Welsh sheep voters get what they deserve. No sympathy from me . |
Oddly Pikey-You are largely correct. All sides are full of second raters. No one worth their salt would be an AM over MP. | | | |
| Tax rises on 14:27 - Apr 20 with 1367 views | Catullus |
| Tax rises on 14:06 - Apr 20 by Professor |
Oddly Pikey-You are largely correct. All sides are full of second raters. No one worth their salt would be an AM over MP. |
Well you mean MS but yes, I entirely agree. Drakeford, RT Davies, they'd never win a Westmisnter seat which says something because there's some right dross in Westminster.
Adam Price is slightly different, he did win a Westminster seat but didn't stick with it for reasons I don;t know BUT his PC manifesto is full of promises he can't keep, even if he intends to. He needs Westminsters permission to do most of what he promises but he doesn't really tell people that. He says we'll negotiate, well he can go and ask but there's only a negotiation if Bojo (or whoever) agrees to talk, if they just say no that's it, done and dealt.
The Senedd is just another epensive tier of government that we could do without. | |
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| Tax rises on 15:06 - Apr 20 with 1330 views | controversial_jack |
| Tax rises on 14:27 - Apr 20 by Catullus |
Well you mean MS but yes, I entirely agree. Drakeford, RT Davies, they'd never win a Westmisnter seat which says something because there's some right dross in Westminster.
Adam Price is slightly different, he did win a Westminster seat but didn't stick with it for reasons I don;t know BUT his PC manifesto is full of promises he can't keep, even if he intends to. He needs Westminsters permission to do most of what he promises but he doesn't really tell people that. He says we'll negotiate, well he can go and ask but there's only a negotiation if Bojo (or whoever) agrees to talk, if they just say no that's it, done and dealt.
The Senedd is just another epensive tier of government that we could do without. |
Let's get out of Westminster then. | | | |
| Tax rises on 15:10 - Apr 20 with 1337 views | pencoedjack |
| Tax rises on 14:00 - Apr 20 by Dr_Winston |
No there won't. Everyone will keep sucking it up and voting largely the same way like they have since 1999. |
Without any doubt.
Vote Labour Cardiff will continue to prosper, new (decent) business will continue to look away from South Wales due to poor transport links.
Anyone who cant see this & votes Labour deserves all they get. | | | |
| Tax rises on 15:25 - Apr 20 with 1319 views | raynor94 |
Far better to abolish the Mickey Mouse Assembly, what a waste of taxpayers money. |  |
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| Tax rises on 15:33 - Apr 20 with 1306 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Tax rises on 14:27 - Apr 20 by Catullus |
Well you mean MS but yes, I entirely agree. Drakeford, RT Davies, they'd never win a Westmisnter seat which says something because there's some right dross in Westminster.
Adam Price is slightly different, he did win a Westminster seat but didn't stick with it for reasons I don;t know BUT his PC manifesto is full of promises he can't keep, even if he intends to. He needs Westminsters permission to do most of what he promises but he doesn't really tell people that. He says we'll negotiate, well he can go and ask but there's only a negotiation if Bojo (or whoever) agrees to talk, if they just say no that's it, done and dealt.
The Senedd is just another epensive tier of government that we could do without. |
What? Come on now don't be silly. If Drakeford run in certain constituencies of course he'd get in.
Pencoed - just curious, I don't know you but know who you are. You have been on a few trips with very good friends of mine and from what I understand you're as working class as they come? Correct? But do I detect a Tory leaning in your numerous political posts, because if that is the case then that would be effing laughable? [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 15:39]
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| Tax rises on 15:38 - Apr 20 with 1300 views | 9MilesHigh |
Welsh people are the most pathetic bunch of weak, subservient, yellow sycophants I've ever come across.
Looking across to a school of toffs 200 miles away for any sort of leadership or courage. Bending over taking it up the ass for centuries and anyone who wonders why? Just read the shite on this forum and wonder no more.
Pathetic. | | | |
| Tax rises on 15:48 - Apr 20 with 1296 views | Boundy |
name just one decent AM with a reason why you consider him/her worthy of presiding over the rest of us | |
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| Tax rises on 15:56 - Apr 20 with 1288 views | onehunglow |
| Tax rises on 15:38 - Apr 20 by 9MilesHigh |
Welsh people are the most pathetic bunch of weak, subservient, yellow sycophants I've ever come across.
Looking across to a school of toffs 200 miles away for any sort of leadership or courage. Bending over taking it up the ass for centuries and anyone who wonders why? Just read the shite on this forum and wonder no more.
Pathetic. |
I was taught by some belting Toffs at my Swansea school. Proper capes and caps too whilst they threashed the bejesus out of you.
If you managed to get in and were a valley resident with a thick accent you were thrashed by the Mumbles/Mayals/Langland toffs.
Toffs is a great word as is Pleb
Wales truly is a land with chips on shoulders 8 miles high,that's when you touch down.
Sidewalks speak and dark limousines are somewhere ,just being their own.
A land where the populace feels inferior to the big noisy neighbour and frets over how they might lose their Welshness if they move east or if they appear anything Tory like as it upsets the neighbours;
Average workers wage for you then Chris. Everyone gets a fair equal wage. Innit | |
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| Tax rises on 16:05 - Apr 20 with 1264 views | trampie |
| Tax rises on 14:27 - Apr 20 by Catullus |
Well you mean MS but yes, I entirely agree. Drakeford, RT Davies, they'd never win a Westmisnter seat which says something because there's some right dross in Westminster.
Adam Price is slightly different, he did win a Westminster seat but didn't stick with it for reasons I don;t know BUT his PC manifesto is full of promises he can't keep, even if he intends to. He needs Westminsters permission to do most of what he promises but he doesn't really tell people that. He says we'll negotiate, well he can go and ask but there's only a negotiation if Bojo (or whoever) agrees to talk, if they just say no that's it, done and dealt.
The Senedd is just another epensive tier of government that we could do without. |
Price went to Harvard university on a Fulbright scholarship (world renowned), lots of them win Nobel and Pulitzer awards that do that and then he came back to the Senedd rather than Westminster. |  |
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| Tax rises on 16:09 - Apr 20 with 1255 views | trampie |
Ordinary people are voting Tory in more and more numbers, it's the middle classes with a conscious that vote Labour these days, everything has turned upside down in recent years. | |
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| Tax rises on 16:30 - Apr 20 with 1249 views | pencoedjack |
| Tax rises on 15:33 - Apr 20 by 9MilesHigh |
What? Come on now don't be silly. If Drakeford run in certain constituencies of course he'd get in.
Pencoed - just curious, I don't know you but know who you are. You have been on a few trips with very good friends of mine and from what I understand you're as working class as they come? Correct? But do I detect a Tory leaning in your numerous political posts, because if that is the case then that would be effing laughable? [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 15:39]
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I vote for whichever party suit mine (& more importantly my hard working kids & their kids) future.
For the record.
That wont be Labour (who I voted for all my life until the last election) especially with a leader such as Drakeford or Gething.
Currently I find it 'effing laughable' anyone who lives outside of Cardiff voting for Labour unless of course they are a public sector worker. | | | |
| Tax rises on 16:32 - Apr 20 with 1244 views | onehunglow |
| Tax rises on 16:30 - Apr 20 by pencoedjack |
I vote for whichever party suit mine (& more importantly my hard working kids & their kids) future.
For the record.
That wont be Labour (who I voted for all my life until the last election) especially with a leader such as Drakeford or Gething.
Currently I find it 'effing laughable' anyone who lives outside of Cardiff voting for Labour unless of course they are a public sector worker. |
I mean you absolute class traitor you.
Putting self first before your sister and brother..
Just wish more were like you  | |
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| Tax rises on 16:50 - Apr 20 with 1232 views | max936 |
| Tax rises on 14:27 - Apr 20 by Catullus |
Well you mean MS but yes, I entirely agree. Drakeford, RT Davies, they'd never win a Westmisnter seat which says something because there's some right dross in Westminster.
Adam Price is slightly different, he did win a Westminster seat but didn't stick with it for reasons I don;t know BUT his PC manifesto is full of promises he can't keep, even if he intends to. He needs Westminsters permission to do most of what he promises but he doesn't really tell people that. He says we'll negotiate, well he can go and ask but there's only a negotiation if Bojo (or whoever) agrees to talk, if they just say no that's it, done and dealt.
The Senedd is just another epensive tier of government that we could do without. |
The Senedd evolved to make jobs for the boys, its a massive White Elephant and a massive drain on Wales's funds, we got our own White Elephant in a prime spot on Mumbles Road ugly monstrosity of a building, the cost of building it and running it must be astronomical.
I hate the sight of it. |  |
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| Tax rises on 17:07 - Apr 20 with 1206 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Tax rises on 15:56 - Apr 20 by onehunglow |
I was taught by some belting Toffs at my Swansea school. Proper capes and caps too whilst they threashed the bejesus out of you.
If you managed to get in and were a valley resident with a thick accent you were thrashed by the Mumbles/Mayals/Langland toffs.
Toffs is a great word as is Pleb
Wales truly is a land with chips on shoulders 8 miles high,that's when you touch down.
Sidewalks speak and dark limousines are somewhere ,just being their own.
A land where the populace feels inferior to the big noisy neighbour and frets over how they might lose their Welshness if they move east or if they appear anything Tory like as it upsets the neighbours;
Average workers wage for you then Chris. Everyone gets a fair equal wage. Innit |
Not sure what any of that means but a posh voice won't get you very far up here or with me.
What the ruling classes have done to perfection in Wales is to dumb down education and eradicate Welsh history from the syllabus.
It leaves us with people that have been politically born again since Brexit who haven't got the first facking clue as to what they witter on about, just as long as it's repeating the same guff that fills up their online echo chambers.
No idea how they're being played. | | | |
| Tax rises on 18:57 - Apr 20 with 1164 views | onehunglow |
| Tax rises on 17:07 - Apr 20 by 9MilesHigh |
Not sure what any of that means but a posh voice won't get you very far up here or with me.
What the ruling classes have done to perfection in Wales is to dumb down education and eradicate Welsh history from the syllabus.
It leaves us with people that have been politically born again since Brexit who haven't got the first facking clue as to what they witter on about, just as long as it's repeating the same guff that fills up their online echo chambers.
No idea how they're being played. |
Depend on how you see a posh accent.One who speaks clearly with no definable accent or one who had the misfortune to be born into a family who were broughtup speaking that way.
Nothing worse than inverted snobbery.
And nothing surer to gain my contempt than someone accentuating their regional accent as it sounds "cool" or "working class".Like Alex Jones and that grating Ammanford brogue of hers.Lovely girl but come on love,tone it down. We have a very nice gay weather man on North West TV.Owain Wyn Evans. Obviously Welsh-Ammanford again- but clear and pleasant.
I refer you to the professional Bolton Paddy McGuinness tw@t accent .Put on as he thinks he's Peter Kay who did very well out of his accent.
I take it you d have no objection to a posh speaking Surgeon operating on your kids.Some are quite posh.Posh schools,posh parents,posh houses,posh holidays,posh everything and good luck to them. | |
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| Tax rises on 19:23 - Apr 20 with 1153 views | Catullus |
| Tax rises on 15:33 - Apr 20 by 9MilesHigh |
What? Come on now don't be silly. If Drakeford run in certain constituencies of course he'd get in.
Pencoed - just curious, I don't know you but know who you are. You have been on a few trips with very good friends of mine and from what I understand you're as working class as they come? Correct? But do I detect a Tory leaning in your numerous political posts, because if that is the case then that would be effing laughable? [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 15:39]
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You think? As an MS Drakeford won his seat in 2016 with 35% of the vote, a drop of 11.5% and that's a majority of 1,176 which is a drop of around 1800 votes on his previous win. He's losing support in his own Senedd constituency and we'll see wat the outcome is this time.
The MP is Kevin Brennan who I never heard of btw has a majority of 10,986, nearly as many as who voted for Drakeford in the Senedd. People don't care so much about the Welsh elections, the Senedd is viewed with apathy, Drakeford is viewed with apathy. | |
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| Tax rises on 19:26 - Apr 20 with 1147 views | onehunglow |
| Tax rises on 17:07 - Apr 20 by 9MilesHigh |
Not sure what any of that means but a posh voice won't get you very far up here or with me.
What the ruling classes have done to perfection in Wales is to dumb down education and eradicate Welsh history from the syllabus.
It leaves us with people that have been politically born again since Brexit who haven't got the first facking clue as to what they witter on about, just as long as it's repeating the same guff that fills up their online echo chambers.
No idea how they're being played. |
Absolute puerile crap.
And who decides who is working class or not.
Seems pencoed is judged by chums of you.
Clearly ,you are not one to be trusted | |
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| Tax rises on 03:21 - Apr 21 with 1081 views | Whiterockin |
So exactly who would pay this income tax. People working in England but living in Wales, people living in England and working in Wales or would you have to live and work in Wales to pay the tax. Like the £735 to care and NHS workers this is not as simple as first seems. |  | | |
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