| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success 11:15 - May 15 with 3617 views | SwansIndependent |
 Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success 15th May 2021 11:12Swansea City had a dabble or two in the MLS over the last January transfer window. Jordan Morris and Paul Arriola are well documented, and the chances taken on them on the other side of the Atlantic proved fruitless. They are both now back in the USA. However, and very quietly, one Orlando City loanee in a Barnsley shirt has played nineteen games since his arrival in January, and has scored nine goals. He is what we call a proper ‘danger man’  0
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 15:32 - May 17 with 735 views | Chief |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 14:59 - May 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its a great relationship to have. Consider a top young layer from Peru for example going to DC via their scouting system. The owners could develop him at DC for a season or two let him get a few caps, then send him on to Swansea on loan with an option to buy deal of £5m + percentage. Like Dike he could prosper seeing his Championsil valuation rocket to £20m. Swansea and DC very happy.
Swansea were linked with the young fellow from Southend with a US passport. He has not kicked on at QPR like Dike but you should be able to follow my drift. Synergies are a win win. Sages on this board are against these things. Europe is more difficult now in Brexit Britain. Viva Argentina. |
Agreed.
Win win under the right circumstances. |  |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 15:39 - May 17 with 719 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 15:24 - May 17 by 34dfgdf54 |
https://www.barnsleychronicle.
Great bit of business if he's telling the truth. Very odd to agree to a fee that low when they've rejected bids of $10m according to you?
Anyway, lets hope he doesn't bolster his fee next two games. |
Not according to me, I have no inside knowledge of Orlando FC - it’s according to various places including the BBC.
What do you mean “that low”? He hasn’t given a figure there.
He said they have the option to buy him for a fee closer to their usual fees they pay (closer than $20m). “Closer”.... not “in line with”.
So $10m would be closer to the usual fees they pay than $20m.
It’s quite possible it would be around that figure, plus of course the added loan fee and a potential add on should they be promoted which without any doubt would have been part of the deal to allow him to play in the playoffs. |  |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 00:42 - May 18 with 662 views | AndyCole |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 15:24 - May 17 by 34dfgdf54 |
https://www.barnsleychronicle.
Great bit of business if he's telling the truth. Very odd to agree to a fee that low when they've rejected bids of $10m according to you?
Anyway, lets hope he doesn't bolster his fee next two games. |
Dike - totally destroyed by our young, clever, physical, solid no-nonsense young paring , cleverly selected and orchestrated by Cooper.
"Thick as mince".
A line you spew when the going gets tough for you. The audacity of the meek.
How sad, low and manipulated the Blaine has fallen. Go support your local team, you may find solace, locally. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:57 - May 18 with 623 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 07:48 - May 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
hahahaha what are you going on about? It's not me saying he's worth $20m, you would be thick as mince to think that.
I actually agree, we handled him beautifully which is why Barnsley will be signing him for a fee closer to what their chairman has said.
But this has now confirmed AndyCole is Dr P 
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Whether he is worth it is another matter that nobody has discussed. You are again making things up or at the very least not understanding what has been said again.
I (and Chief) pointed out that Orlando value him at $20m. That is different to what he is worth, which is subjective.
Come on now, don’t make such basic errors when using phrases such as thick as mince. [Post edited 18 May 2021 9:02]
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:05 - May 18 with 609 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:57 - May 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
Whether he is worth it is another matter that nobody has discussed. You are again making things up or at the very least not understanding what has been said again.
I (and Chief) pointed out that Orlando value him at $20m. That is different to what he is worth, which is subjective.
Come on now, don’t make such basic errors when using phrases such as thick as mince. [Post edited 18 May 2021 9:02]
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Lets see what he goes for...
He has been a success at Barnsley at this level, fair play to him, as I keep saying, this blows your statement out of the water "MLS players in their off season doesn't work". Again.
We'll leave it at that, or atleast, I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 18 May 2021 9:07]
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:27 - May 18 with 600 views | vetchonian |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:05 - May 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
Lets see what he goes for...
He has been a success at Barnsley at this level, fair play to him, as I keep saying, this blows your statement out of the water "MLS players in their off season doesn't work". Again.
We'll leave it at that, or atleast, I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 18 May 2021 9:07]
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He was made to look very ordinary by two young centre backs last night
Bit of a thug when things not going his way | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:28 - May 18 with 597 views | Chief |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:27 - May 18 by vetchonian |
He was made to look very ordinary by two young centre backs last night
Bit of a thug when things not going his way |
Should have been booked. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 10:12 - May 18 with 582 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:27 - May 18 by vetchonian |
He was made to look very ordinary by two young centre backs last night
Bit of a thug when things not going his way |
Completely agree.
Both were outstanding, if Cabango can learn to be a bit more composed on the ball we have another absolute gem.
Complete testament to the squad when we have the likes of Roberts, Manning, Bennett on the bench last night, with the England U17 world cup winning captain in reserve aswell. [Post edited 18 May 2021 10:29]
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 22:16 - May 18 with 536 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:05 - May 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
Lets see what he goes for...
He has been a success at Barnsley at this level, fair play to him, as I keep saying, this blows your statement out of the water "MLS players in their off season doesn't work". Again.
We'll leave it at that, or atleast, I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 18 May 2021 9:07]
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But that wasn’t my statement was it.... you cannot blow a statement out of the water they was never said.
That is completely fabricated. I thought you had trouble understanding things but it happens so often I just think you are a plain liar. No offence.
Cant you hold a conversation without having to make up what someone else says? No wonder you always say people are wrong... you just make up what they have said.
Grow up. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:32 - May 19 with 505 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 22:16 - May 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
But that wasn’t my statement was it.... you cannot blow a statement out of the water they was never said.
That is completely fabricated. I thought you had trouble understanding things but it happens so often I just think you are a plain liar. No offence.
Cant you hold a conversation without having to make up what someone else says? No wonder you always say people are wrong... you just make up what they have said.
Grow up. |
What was your statement then? What did you say about off season loans from the MLS?
No offence taken, I have zero respect for anything you say so don't worry about upsetting me. | | | |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:42 - May 19 with 501 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:32 - May 19 by 34dfgdf54 |
What was your statement then? What did you say about off season loans from the MLS?
No offence taken, I have zero respect for anything you say so don't worry about upsetting me. |
Why are you struggling to read this point then? I’ve corrected you twice in this thread alone, and once on the other.
If you don’t know what people say then you really should go making up quotes A
and then asking them afterwards.
You have no respect for common sense no, common sense is the enemy of hyperbole... which of course is your favourite thing with regards to Cooper. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:45 - May 19 with 499 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:42 - May 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Why are you struggling to read this point then? I’ve corrected you twice in this thread alone, and once on the other.
If you don’t know what people say then you really should go making up quotes A
and then asking them afterwards.
You have no respect for common sense no, common sense is the enemy of hyperbole... which of course is your favourite thing with regards to Cooper. |
I've made up no quotes. The simple way of putting it is.
You claimed MLS off season loans "rarely" work, then in the next breath their are articles wrote on here praising Barnsley, bottom three spenders, for one.
It's really that simple, you're statements are continually being ridiculed, over and over and this is why you thrash out like you do. It's fine, it's the new normal. [Post edited 19 May 2021 8:45]
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:49 - May 19 with 496 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:45 - May 19 by 34dfgdf54 |
I've made up no quotes. The simple way of putting it is.
You claimed MLS off season loans "rarely" work, then in the next breath their are articles wrote on here praising Barnsley, bottom three spenders, for one.
It's really that simple, you're statements are continually being ridiculed, over and over and this is why you thrash out like you do. It's fine, it's the new normal. [Post edited 19 May 2021 8:45]
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Right so you now understand I said “rarely” and not “never” then? Which of course absolutely shows you made the quote up. Keep up.
So back to the point, if I say people are rarely born with 3 legs, that doesn’t get disproven by showing me someone that has been born with 3 legs. I am fully aware there are examples, my point is that its rare.
Until it is common place for loans from the MLS to happen and be successful at this level, that statement will be correct. They rarely happen because they are rarely a good idea. Rarely.
Easy. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:04 - May 19 with 487 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 08:49 - May 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Right so you now understand I said “rarely” and not “never” then? Which of course absolutely shows you made the quote up. Keep up.
So back to the point, if I say people are rarely born with 3 legs, that doesn’t get disproven by showing me someone that has been born with 3 legs. I am fully aware there are examples, my point is that its rare.
Until it is common place for loans from the MLS to happen and be successful at this level, that statement will be correct. They rarely happen because they are rarely a good idea. Rarely.
Easy. |
Ah, no faith in your statements. Fair enough.
Well, it worked for Barnsley, the same season you made your "rarely" statement. | | | |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:06 - May 19 with 486 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:04 - May 19 by 34dfgdf54 |
Ah, no faith in your statements. Fair enough.
Well, it worked for Barnsley, the same season you made your "rarely" statement. |
Which statement do you think I don’t have faith in?
I just explained it to you and showed how it’s correct. You are either trolling or very slow, not sure which one. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:42 - May 19 with 476 views | johnlangy |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 09:06 - May 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Which statement do you think I don’t have faith in?
I just explained it to you and showed how it’s correct. You are either trolling or very slow, not sure which one. |
I have to say Barnsley were TERRIBLE. Hoofball only has a place when the 'hoof' is directed kind of toward where your players are. Mostly it was 'hoofed' with no direction whatsoever. Awful. I seem to remember they were very good down the Liberty in the normal season game. Can't think what happened to them.
My only concern from Monday's game was the huge gap in the middle of defence on a few occasions in the second half. Cabango and Guehi were tremendous in the first half so I don't know how those spaces were left second half. | | | |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 11:29 - May 19 with 453 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 14:47 - May 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
The idea that players in America can’t handle the Championship? What or who’s idea would that be then?
I don’t think anyone has ever made that point, have they? In fact many liked the look of Morris for the short time he was here. He looked more than a useful squad player.
One player making it doesn’t mean all will, though. It’s like saying Braithwaite went to Barca and has played loads of games, so blows the idea that Championship players can’t get into the Barca team out of the water. The overwhelming majority of Championship players still wouldn’t get anywhere near the squad.
Every player is case specific, league doesn’t matter. But what you cannot do is say they are a great player because they play well in a certain league, when that league is clearly a lot weaker. Arriola (who I assume you are going on about yet again) seems to be known for his poor passing and poor technique so the cards were always stacked against him making it in English football. |
Yet this ABSOLUTE CLOWN was willing to go off one (1) fan that came on the Planet Swans board.
Get him off. Fraud! |  | | |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 12:54 - May 19 with 432 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 11:29 - May 19 by 9MilesHigh |
Yet this ABSOLUTE CLOWN was willing to go off one (1) fan that came on the Planet Swans board.
Get him off. Fraud! |
As opposed to none saying the opposite you mean?
Take a breath love, this obsession you have got has turned you into a right mess.
Give your caps lock a break. | |
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| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 13:00 - May 19 with 430 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 12:54 - May 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
As opposed to none saying the opposite you mean?
Take a breath love, this obsession you have got has turned you into a right mess.
Give your caps lock a break. |
None in general? Or none on this forum? | | | |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 13:03 - May 19 with 429 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Barnsley v Swansea City : The USA loan player that is a complete success on 13:00 - May 19 by 34dfgdf54 |
None in general? Or none on this forum? |
Well I don’t know everyone in the world. The MLS fans on the other site were pretty honest about him. Poor technically, poor at passing but puts in lots of effort. | |
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