| If you've had the AZ vaccine 14:21 - Jun 18 with 3873 views | RonaldStump |
You won't get in to see Bruce Springsteen in NYC
Only those that have had the Pfizer Moderna and J&J experimental jab will be allowed.
They are making it up as they go along .
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:31 - Jun 18 with 1551 views | Scotia |
In all seriousness me and the Mrs were considering going if restrictions would allow and we could get tickets.
We're both Pfizered up so we'd be ok on that front. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:48 - Jun 18 with 1530 views | RonaldStump |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:31 - Jun 18 by Scotia |
In all seriousness me and the Mrs were considering going if restrictions would allow and we could get tickets.
We're both Pfizered up so we'd be ok on that front. |
Don't you think it's all getting a bit odd though.
First they are dividing the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Now they are dividing the vaccinated based on what designer label is on your jab | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:53 - Jun 18 with 1515 views | Joe_bradshaw |
It’s a non story. The AZ vaccine hasn’t been approved in the USA so it would only affect foreign visitors who aren’t allowed in anyway. |  |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 15:00 - Jun 18 with 1511 views | RonaldStump |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:53 - Jun 18 by Joe_bradshaw |
It’s a non story. The AZ vaccine hasn’t been approved in the USA so it would only affect foreign visitors who aren’t allowed in anyway. |
So whatever happened to getting vaccinated is the gateway to freedom.
There has been no evidence as of yet to suggest that suggestion is anything more than a lie to get people vaccinated. | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 15:26 - Jun 18 with 1481 views | Scotia |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:48 - Jun 18 by RonaldStump |
Don't you think it's all getting a bit odd though.
First they are dividing the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Now they are dividing the vaccinated based on what designer label is on your jab |
No I don't.
They don't use AZ in the US, and only allowing vaccinated people in to a relatively small, unventilated space seems sensible to me.
We could (should) do exactly the same in this country. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 17:20 - Jun 18 with 1428 views | Boundy |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 15:26 - Jun 18 by Scotia |
No I don't.
They don't use AZ in the US, and only allowing vaccinated people in to a relatively small, unventilated space seems sensible to me.
We could (should) do exactly the same in this country. |
Curious , but who determines on which vaccination is "approved " even though the one given have been ? | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:09 - Jun 18 with 1398 views | Treforys_Jack |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 15:00 - Jun 18 by RonaldStump |
So whatever happened to getting vaccinated is the gateway to freedom.
There has been no evidence as of yet to suggest that suggestion is anything more than a lie to get people vaccinated. |
You seem like you're trying to convince yourself most of the time, have the vaccine, don't have the vaccine, it's your choice. Just accept consequences either way. |  | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:14 - Jun 18 with 1378 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:09 - Jun 18 by Treforys_Jack |
You seem like you're trying to convince yourself most of the time, have the vaccine, don't have the vaccine, it's your choice. Just accept consequences either way. |
Do you know the "consequences"? | | | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:21 - Jun 18 with 1377 views | onehunglow |
Yep,like Dave Grohl,Bruce is smart and concerned about people spreading this. | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:30 - Jun 18 with 1375 views | controversial_jack |
I'd rather stick pins in my scrotum than go watch one of his shows. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:03 - Jun 18 with 1336 views | Scotia |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 17:20 - Jun 18 by Boundy |
Curious , but who determines on which vaccination is "approved " even though the one given have been ? |
In the case of the UK the MHRA.
They're only approved if they are safe and effective. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:15 - Jun 18 with 1330 views | Boundy |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:03 - Jun 18 by Scotia |
In the case of the UK the MHRA.
They're only approved if they are safe and effective. |
Thanks for the reply, | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:27 - Jun 18 with 1321 views | majorraglan |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 15:00 - Jun 18 by RonaldStump |
So whatever happened to getting vaccinated is the gateway to freedom.
There has been no evidence as of yet to suggest that suggestion is anything more than a lie to get people vaccinated. |
I’d say getting vaccinated is the gateway to freedom, on this occasion it’s the chance for punters to go and see Bruce. No vaccine no entry. In terms of the Oxford vaccine, it’s not yet been approved in the States so they don’t recognise it which is fair enough, the Americans are free to set their own rules in their own country. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:32 - Jun 18 with 1318 views | Treforys_Jack |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 18:14 - Jun 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
Do you know the "consequences"? |
Haven't you got some nutjobs on YouTube to watch or something. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:37 - Jun 18 with 1314 views | jack247 |
I’d say, at the moment, staying alive and out of hospital is more important than a Bruce Springsteen gig.
Any of the vaccinations increase your chances of both. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 23:17 - Jun 18 with 1292 views | max936 |
Good if he playing out my back garden I'd shut the windows and the curtains, even in an heatwave  |  | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 11:42 - Jun 19 with 1227 views | RonaldStump |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 22:03 - Jun 18 by Scotia |
In the case of the UK the MHRA.
They're only approved if they are safe and effective. |
They are not fully approved though they are provisionally approved for emergency use. You can't fully approve something that is still in trial phase. | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 11:59 - Jun 19 with 1207 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 11:42 - Jun 19 by RonaldStump |
They are not fully approved though they are provisionally approved for emergency use. You can't fully approve something that is still in trial phase. |
Scotia actually thinks they are safe despite the evidence when comparing them to truly safe old fashioned and tested Vaccines.
Even those old Vaccines are not 100% safe, no drug or chemical is because there is too much variation in human beings.
It is all about balancing gains and losses. [Post edited 19 Jun 2021 12:00]
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 12:10 - Jun 19 with 1209 views | RonaldStump |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 11:59 - Jun 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Scotia actually thinks they are safe despite the evidence when comparing them to truly safe old fashioned and tested Vaccines.
Even those old Vaccines are not 100% safe, no drug or chemical is because there is too much variation in human beings.
It is all about balancing gains and losses. [Post edited 19 Jun 2021 12:00]
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Nail on the head right there.
Amazing how so many people believe in the theory that one size fits all.
If only it was that easy | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 12:16 - Jun 19 with 1207 views | Catullus |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 11:59 - Jun 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Scotia actually thinks they are safe despite the evidence when comparing them to truly safe old fashioned and tested Vaccines.
Even those old Vaccines are not 100% safe, no drug or chemical is because there is too much variation in human beings.
It is all about balancing gains and losses. [Post edited 19 Jun 2021 12:00]
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They are safe for the vast majority of people and will, in the long term save many more lives than they will take.
Myself and my wife have had both jabs (AZ) and we are fine, if I'd caught covid before being vaccinated I was at risk of serious illness because of pre- existing conditions.
There are risks with everything, even just getting out of bed in the morning, heck even just going to bed is dangerous, people die in their sleep so maybe we should all stay awake all the time?
Ridiculous right? | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 12:23 - Jun 19 with 1193 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 12:16 - Jun 19 by Catullus |
They are safe for the vast majority of people and will, in the long term save many more lives than they will take.
Myself and my wife have had both jabs (AZ) and we are fine, if I'd caught covid before being vaccinated I was at risk of serious illness because of pre- existing conditions.
There are risks with everything, even just getting out of bed in the morning, heck even just going to bed is dangerous, people die in their sleep so maybe we should all stay awake all the time?
Ridiculous right? |
You are absolutely right.
The only minor problem is that the old "rules" for deciding on those gains have been changed for COVID vaccines.
It is the pressure of the pandemic that has allowed this to happen. | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 13:03 - Jun 19 with 1190 views | Catullus |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 12:23 - Jun 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are absolutely right.
The only minor problem is that the old "rules" for deciding on those gains have been changed for COVID vaccines.
It is the pressure of the pandemic that has allowed this to happen. |
Out of the milliins who've been vaccinated how many deaths from rare blood clots so far? 41 isn't it? | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 13:09 - Jun 19 with 1179 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 13:03 - Jun 19 by Catullus |
Out of the milliins who've been vaccinated how many deaths from rare blood clots so far? 41 isn't it? |
In the UK, or in the USA and the EU? | | | |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:03 - Jun 19 with 1155 views | onehunglow |
You do not have to go. fans dad.
It gives his millions of fans worldwide over 4 decades more of a chance to see the great man,without the chance of catching covid. | |
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| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 14:53 - Jun 19 with 1133 views | Catullus |
| If you've had the AZ vaccine on 13:09 - Jun 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
In the UK, or in the USA and the EU? |
UK. So that's 41 deaths out of 42,000,000 who've had one dose and over 30,000,000 who've had both doses. The current death rate from Covid within 28 days of a positive test is 191 or where it's mentioned on the death certificate it's 228. | |
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