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Putin put Trump in the White House ? 16:35 - Jul 15 with 4634 viewstrampie


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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 14:27 - Jul 16 with 1080 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 18:46 - Jul 15 by CountyJim

I believe Putin and KGB got something big on Trumpet he's always been thier lapdog


What actions did President Trump take during his presidency that suggested he was doing so under the direction of Putin and the KGB?

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:17 - Jul 16 with 1052 viewsProfessor

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 14:27 - Jul 16 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

What actions did President Trump take during his presidency that suggested he was doing so under the direction of Putin and the KGB?


Nothing. His isolationism allowed Russian influence to spread.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:24 - Jul 16 with 1051 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:17 - Jul 16 by Professor

Nothing. His isolationism allowed Russian influence to spread.


Yes I agree with that. What I don't agree with is the nonsense that he was the "lapdop" of the KGB or President Putin etc.

"Fake news" like that spreads too easily.

See the "racist graffiti sprayed on Rashford mural" as a recent example. There should be consequences for deliberately spreading "fake news".

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:56 - Jul 16 with 1045 viewsProfessor

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:24 - Jul 16 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

Yes I agree with that. What I don't agree with is the nonsense that he was the "lapdop" of the KGB or President Putin etc.

"Fake news" like that spreads too easily.

See the "racist graffiti sprayed on Rashford mural" as a recent example. There should be consequences for deliberately spreading "fake news".


I tend to agree. Putin thought he would bring instability. That’s what happened
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 16:39 - Jul 16 with 1011 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:56 - Jul 16 by Professor

I tend to agree. Putin thought he would bring instability. That’s what happened


What "instability?
Do you mean the fact that he did not involve the USA in any wars?
Or the 3 peace deals he brokered in the Middle East?
Or the fact that he brought US troops home as his voters wanted him to do?
Or do you mean the fact that he put the EU in their place regarding not paying their proper NATO contributions?

Perhaps you could be a bit more precise.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 20:52 - Jul 16 with 965 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Putin had too much power including holding Germany to ransom . Angela Merkel closed down all Germany's nuclear power stations following the disaster in Japan.

Germany now depends on Russia gas for 34% of its imported gas. This will increase even more on completion of the second pipeline.

Germany is now reluctant to criticise Russia for breaches of international law and human rights violations.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 21:42 - Jul 16 with 949 viewsmajorraglan

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 20:52 - Jul 16 by felixstowe_jack

Putin had too much power including holding Germany to ransom . Angela Merkel closed down all Germany's nuclear power stations following the disaster in Japan.

Germany now depends on Russia gas for 34% of its imported gas. This will increase even more on completion of the second pipeline.

Germany is now reluctant to criticise Russia for breaches of international law and human rights violations.


Fair points, Putin has some pretty strong leverage over lots of countries with his gas pipelines, the threat of turning them off or limiting supplies will send shivers down the spine of all the leaders who’s people depend on us supplies to keep warm. I think Ukraine may have experienced some supply issues in the past.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:31 - Jul 16 with 925 viewsDr_Parnassus

I am constantly staggered that the same people calling the voting fraud of 2020 “ridiculous” are the often the same ones to jump on any nonsense to suggest it was anything other than a democratic vote that put Trump there in 2016 (and will do again in 2024 in my opinion).

All sense of balance with regards to politics has sadly died a death. Russia had about as much responsibility for Trump in 2016 and fraud did for Biden in 2020.

Guess how much that is?

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:46 - Jul 16 with 904 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:31 - Jul 16 by Dr_Parnassus

I am constantly staggered that the same people calling the voting fraud of 2020 “ridiculous” are the often the same ones to jump on any nonsense to suggest it was anything other than a democratic vote that put Trump there in 2016 (and will do again in 2024 in my opinion).

All sense of balance with regards to politics has sadly died a death. Russia had about as much responsibility for Trump in 2016 and fraud did for Biden in 2020.

Guess how much that is?


If you think fraud didn't put Biden in power in 2020 you are way behind the times.
Both the Maricopa and Fulton audits have shown massive fraud.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:53 - Jul 16 with 909 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:46 - Jul 16 by A_Fans_Dad

If you think fraud didn't put Biden in power in 2020 you are way behind the times.
Both the Maricopa and Fulton audits have shown massive fraud.


I’d say it’s almost certain it didn’t.

Mass media manipulation, huge scale big tech influence, Hollywood... absolutely. Fraud? Nah.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 12:08 - Jul 17 with 833 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:53 - Jul 16 by Dr_Parnassus

I’d say it’s almost certain it didn’t.

Mass media manipulation, huge scale big tech influence, Hollywood... absolutely. Fraud? Nah.


Why don't you wise up and do what you say you always do and go and look at the source data?
Go and watch the Arizona Senate Maricopa Election Audit meeting.
Educate yourself on this subject.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 23:12 - Jul 17 with 790 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 12:08 - Jul 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Why don't you wise up and do what you say you always do and go and look at the source data?
Go and watch the Arizona Senate Maricopa Election Audit meeting.
Educate yourself on this subject.


Stop being a silly teenager.

Once the audit is completed and the findings put in front of a court we can all then look at them and analyse what the situation is.

You are just as bad as the psychos on the left that immediately jump on any news against the Republicans.

It’s amazing you have come to the conclusion that there was fraud to a sufficient level to swing an election when the auditors themselves have said they haven’t even done their report yet. Maybe get in contact with them and tell them not to bother as you know best?

If only you read before you typed, credible people with credible views wouldn’t be tarred with the same brush people tar you with.

You are like the Republicans version of DJack.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 23:35 - Jul 17 with 771 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 23:12 - Jul 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Stop being a silly teenager.

Once the audit is completed and the findings put in front of a court we can all then look at them and analyse what the situation is.

You are just as bad as the psychos on the left that immediately jump on any news against the Republicans.

It’s amazing you have come to the conclusion that there was fraud to a sufficient level to swing an election when the auditors themselves have said they haven’t even done their report yet. Maybe get in contact with them and tell them not to bother as you know best?

If only you read before you typed, credible people with credible views wouldn’t be tarred with the same brush people tar you with.

You are like the Republicans version of DJack.
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Wow you are so insecure that you need a court to tell you when there are problems with an election.
The video of the report by the auditors to the Senate committee showed sufficient problems highlighted that the Arizona Senator has called for re-election.
So I consider myself to be in good company.
So you consider the Arizona Senator to be a "psycho" with no credibility.

OK.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 00:02 - Jul 18 with 764 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 23:35 - Jul 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Wow you are so insecure that you need a court to tell you when there are problems with an election.
The video of the report by the auditors to the Senate committee showed sufficient problems highlighted that the Arizona Senator has called for re-election.
So I consider myself to be in good company.
So you consider the Arizona Senator to be a "psycho" with no credibility.

OK.


It has nothing to do with insecurity.

A court it where both sides are looked at in detail. Both sides. I will always listen to the Democrat view points and evidence too prior to making my decision.

Such as the Hunter Biden emails. They were obviously genuine. The Democrat reasoning was that it was the most elaborate hoax in political history and/or Russian intelligence creation. If the alternate has come straight out of a sci-fi movie then it’s probably not the truth.

You are far too militant and any sort of thing you hear from a Republican stand point, you jump on it immediately with blinkers on.

What’s for absolute certain is, if this was the other way round and DJack was giving the same reasoning, same views and same posts in their exact composition as you are - you would quite rightly be giving it to him both barrels and rejecting it for the same reasons people are rejecting it now.

Having some election problems such as the videos we saw, and having election fraud on the scale to flip an election aren’t even in the same stratosphere.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 08:36 - Jul 18 with 714 viewstrampie


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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 09:23 - Jul 18 with 699 viewstrampie


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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 12:04 - Jul 18 with 674 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 00:02 - Jul 18 by Dr_Parnassus

It has nothing to do with insecurity.

A court it where both sides are looked at in detail. Both sides. I will always listen to the Democrat view points and evidence too prior to making my decision.

Such as the Hunter Biden emails. They were obviously genuine. The Democrat reasoning was that it was the most elaborate hoax in political history and/or Russian intelligence creation. If the alternate has come straight out of a sci-fi movie then it’s probably not the truth.

You are far too militant and any sort of thing you hear from a Republican stand point, you jump on it immediately with blinkers on.

What’s for absolute certain is, if this was the other way round and DJack was giving the same reasoning, same views and same posts in their exact composition as you are - you would quite rightly be giving it to him both barrels and rejecting it for the same reasons people are rejecting it now.

Having some election problems such as the videos we saw, and having election fraud on the scale to flip an election aren’t even in the same stratosphere.


"Having some election problems such as the videos we saw, and having election fraud on the scale to flip an election aren’t even in the same stratosphere. "

Well if you refuse to look at all the data you will never believe that there was enough fraud to flip the election.
It only takes 6000 votes in Maricopa to flip the election and they have found that many times over.

You can stick with your opinion and I will stick with my evidence.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 12:05 - Jul 18 with 673 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 09:23 - Jul 18 by trampie



You live in the alternate universe ceated by the mass media.
I am sure you are very happy to be there.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 13:02 - Jul 18 with 658 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 12:04 - Jul 18 by A_Fans_Dad

"Having some election problems such as the videos we saw, and having election fraud on the scale to flip an election aren’t even in the same stratosphere. "

Well if you refuse to look at all the data you will never believe that there was enough fraud to flip the election.
It only takes 6000 votes in Maricopa to flip the election and they have found that many times over.

You can stick with your opinion and I will stick with my evidence.


All the data isn’t available, that’s the point.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 13:54 - Jul 18 with 643 viewsCatullus

Of all the people to call insecure...Dr P, there is nobody on here more certain of or more secure in their opinions than Dr P!

Oh, and deciding what the outcome is before all the evidence has been presented and judged is blatantly silly.
AFD, would you lock someone up for 10 years if the CPS brought charges but it hadn't gone to court? how silly does that sound? Wait to see what the courts say. And even as I put that down I suddenly remembered, if the court dismisses it then the court is obviously fixed and corrupt!

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 14:54 - Jul 18 with 629 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 13:54 - Jul 18 by Catullus

Of all the people to call insecure...Dr P, there is nobody on here more certain of or more secure in their opinions than Dr P!

Oh, and deciding what the outcome is before all the evidence has been presented and judged is blatantly silly.
AFD, would you lock someone up for 10 years if the CPS brought charges but it hadn't gone to court? how silly does that sound? Wait to see what the courts say. And even as I put that down I suddenly remembered, if the court dismisses it then the court is obviously fixed and corrupt!


Well, that would depend on whether or not they actually view the Evidence, unlike all the previous cases that have refused to.

Not that making a decision on whether fraud can be seen has much to do with courts, it either can be seen or it can't be seen, the courts process comes in later.

As to locking someone up for ten years based on a video of them cold bloodedly killing someone with multiple witnesses, yes I would, just in case they got off on some damned technicality a crooked lawyer comes up with.
Still sound so silly?
But everyone has the right to due process, if anyone ever gets to court over the fraud that has been documented they will also have that right.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:28 - Jul 18 with 624 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Speaking of courts, they and their decisions do not apply to the people in charge of Arizona Election Data.
https://apnews.com/article/joe

They still have not complied with all the Senate subpoenas as ordered by the Superior Court Judge.

Some people can just ignore the law without repercussions.
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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 18:09 - Jul 18 with 598 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 15:56 - Jul 16 by Professor

I tend to agree. Putin thought he would bring instability. That’s what happened


The Democrats brought the instability, after 3 years of continuous success stories.

Trumps administration made people of all races and genders richer than they ever have been. The median family income was at its highest, unemployment at a record low, crime rate falling, first period of no fresh international conflict in decades, peace deals in the Middle East and long term threat North Korea brought to the table.

The instability happened when the media and democrats fraudulently pounced on the George Floyd incident. That was the cause of the instability.

Trump in response signed the police reform executive order. Still wasn’t enough to pacify an ever growing mob of angry people that the country was clearly improving under the administration, they were not going to let that go unpunished, especially in an election year.

To further this, Trumps vote base increased from 2016 with women, African Americans and Latino, despite 4 years of continuous unfair propaganda against those groups. They could see tangible differences in quality of life.

Where he suffered at the polls in relation to 2016 was white men, the group that had been vilified in the media for 4 years, fraudulently being called racists amongst other things simply because of their economic vote.

The media should be held to account for their role in the destabilising of social America, even those of a Democrat bias have noted how ridiculous the news outlets and social media platforms have been. Their reporting (and lack of reporting/censoring) on things has been criminal and tantamount to incitement.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 18:21 - Jul 18 with 590 viewsDr_Parnassus

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 13:54 - Jul 18 by Catullus

Of all the people to call insecure...Dr P, there is nobody on here more certain of or more secure in their opinions than Dr P!

Oh, and deciding what the outcome is before all the evidence has been presented and judged is blatantly silly.
AFD, would you lock someone up for 10 years if the CPS brought charges but it hadn't gone to court? how silly does that sound? Wait to see what the courts say. And even as I put that down I suddenly remembered, if the court dismisses it then the court is obviously fixed and corrupt!


Yes, I will always call it as I see it, rather than how I want it to be.

Which is why I am so disappointed when people who tend to promote balance, jump on such obvious nonsense as this “Russia put Trump in office” bilge.

I have always maintained that there probably was some fraud and clearly was some malpractice, the motive was there, the surveillance footage we have seen of certain individuals looks horrific and undeniable. But something so coordinated and so large scale, involving so many people is unlikely, some of these people can’t even arrange a conference properly let alone large scale election fraud.

But I’m always willing to listen to balanced evidence from credible sources. Any complaints at all with a democratic process should be investigated to their fullest, everyone should be behind that as it’s democracy itself at stake.

Not sure I would have used a private company that has never done an election audit before who is closely tied to the “election fraud” movement though... but we will see the report and go from there.

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Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 22:11 - Jul 18 with 554 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Putin put Trump in the White House ? on 18:09 - Jul 18 by Dr_Parnassus

The Democrats brought the instability, after 3 years of continuous success stories.

Trumps administration made people of all races and genders richer than they ever have been. The median family income was at its highest, unemployment at a record low, crime rate falling, first period of no fresh international conflict in decades, peace deals in the Middle East and long term threat North Korea brought to the table.

The instability happened when the media and democrats fraudulently pounced on the George Floyd incident. That was the cause of the instability.

Trump in response signed the police reform executive order. Still wasn’t enough to pacify an ever growing mob of angry people that the country was clearly improving under the administration, they were not going to let that go unpunished, especially in an election year.

To further this, Trumps vote base increased from 2016 with women, African Americans and Latino, despite 4 years of continuous unfair propaganda against those groups. They could see tangible differences in quality of life.

Where he suffered at the polls in relation to 2016 was white men, the group that had been vilified in the media for 4 years, fraudulently being called racists amongst other things simply because of their economic vote.

The media should be held to account for their role in the destabilising of social America, even those of a Democrat bias have noted how ridiculous the news outlets and social media platforms have been. Their reporting (and lack of reporting/censoring) on things has been criminal and tantamount to incitement.


Trump's vote with African Americans (a term I hate, they are just Americans) and Latinos grew everywhere...even in California and New York (the most Democrat places in the USA)...except for a handful of places.
Guess where those places were?


Yes, that's right, the states which stopped counting and delayed their results for a week...literally the only places in the US of A where Trump's vote shrunk in those communities.

It doesn't take Columbo to work out what happened there.
A shit ton of fraudulent Absentee ballots were produced....and the people on the voting register they used to produce them came (predominantly) from those communities.

We now know that somebody hacked into the Arizona voter roll on the evening of November 3rd...and we know that this was known, and not disclosed to auditors.

We also know that 18000 people 'voted' in Maricopa County on November 3rd...but were removed from the electoral roll days later!.

Why do you think Biden's DoJ has threatened anyone who knocks on the doors of these phantom voters (the 'Canvas' section of the audit) with arrest?!?

There is a tsunami of evidence and only a mug believes Biden won that election at this stage...Arizona has voted Republican in every election for 70+ years. Maricopa County was the ONLY county in Arizona to flip from Republican to Democrat from the 2016 election...Biden won Arizona by 0.3% of the vote, 2 votes in 800...a lot of suspicious activity was flagged up by eye witnesses, hundreds signed legal affidavits, it deserved an audit (as only a tiny amount of fraud was needed to swing it)..and look what they have found, EVERYBODY LOOK


https://gellerreport.com/2021/






If people want to make believe this didn't happen they should be able to refute the evidence discovered easily, in court.
Biden will never let it get to court....there will be violence committed by the State on the American people before that happens...they can't afford to risk losing the case, as it will prove that the country is governed by treasonous criminals.
Which it is.
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