| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 05:52 - Aug 13 with 1189 views | KeithHaynes |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:40 - Aug 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
Old news |
Apparently the family are still grieving. |  |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 07:47 - Aug 13 with 1151 views | Scotia |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 00:47 - Aug 13 by RonaldStump |
Calling for bans again because your opinions differ.
Having questions that need answering does not equate to more hospitalisations and death.
The very problem here is lack of debate.
The government & MSM don't want it because they would be exposed.
I don't care who you are or what you do but that last sentence makes you an absolute wrong un [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 0:48]
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It's not because opinions differ it's because you consistently post nonsense. It gets debunked and you just come back with more nonsense. That gets debunked too.
You understand so little about this that you can't grasp how little you understand.
Personally I think you should have been banned after posting the list of names of people who you thought died from the covid vaccine which was proven to be complete and utter rubbish. It brought this site in to disrepute.
This "old news" comment is equally sickening. |  | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 12:15 - Aug 13 with 1104 views | Catullus |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 07:47 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
It's not because opinions differ it's because you consistently post nonsense. It gets debunked and you just come back with more nonsense. That gets debunked too.
You understand so little about this that you can't grasp how little you understand.
Personally I think you should have been banned after posting the list of names of people who you thought died from the covid vaccine which was proven to be complete and utter rubbish. It brought this site in to disrepute.
This "old news" comment is equally sickening. |
Scotia mate, sorry to have to tell you this but you're wrong. Stumpy understands more than you think but he's just on a wind up. He posts nonsense because, in my opinion, he enjoys it. Then (also in my opinion) he sits back and watches the replies, chuckling to himself about how clever he's been to wind so many people up. That Lisa has outed him as a liar (about being immigre) sparked an angry sounding response, he doesn't like being found out.
I think AFD definitely needs to speak to someone outside his bubble but he doesn't seem to want to believe medical experts unless they agree with his version of things. | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 13:38 - Aug 13 with 1075 views | RonaldStump |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 12:15 - Aug 13 by Catullus |
Scotia mate, sorry to have to tell you this but you're wrong. Stumpy understands more than you think but he's just on a wind up. He posts nonsense because, in my opinion, he enjoys it. Then (also in my opinion) he sits back and watches the replies, chuckling to himself about how clever he's been to wind so many people up. That Lisa has outed him as a liar (about being immigre) sparked an angry sounding response, he doesn't like being found out.
I think AFD definitely needs to speak to someone outside his bubble but he doesn't seem to want to believe medical experts unless they agree with his version of things. |
No need to point it out to him he certainly isn't the first and most definitely won't be the last person to get things 100% wrong when responding to me.
For the record I am an immigrant and i'm proud of the fact i escaped a tyrannical regime and i'd hate to think i'm heading for another one. I'll fight until my dying day to make sure the UK that gave me opportunities to fall to communism.
Lisa knows absolutely nothing of me | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 13:58 - Aug 13 with 1082 views | Scotia |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 13:38 - Aug 13 by RonaldStump |
No need to point it out to him he certainly isn't the first and most definitely won't be the last person to get things 100% wrong when responding to me.
For the record I am an immigrant and i'm proud of the fact i escaped a tyrannical regime and i'd hate to think i'm heading for another one. I'll fight until my dying day to make sure the UK that gave me opportunities to fall to communism.
Lisa knows absolutely nothing of me |
Me get things wrong?
Do you remember this post from your good self?
Here from a 1981 book by Bilderberger Jacques Attali is an example of the Elite's mindset:
"The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population..of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps. We get rid of them by making them believe its for their own good..We will find or cause something, a pandemic targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the elderly, it doesn't matter, the weak and the fearful will succumb to it. The stupid will believe in it and ask to be treated, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will therefore be done by itself; they will go to the slaughterhouse alone."
Why don't you go and find the original source? | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 14:07 - Aug 13 with 1061 views | RonaldStump |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 13:58 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
Me get things wrong?
Do you remember this post from your good self?
Here from a 1981 book by Bilderberger Jacques Attali is an example of the Elite's mindset:
"The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population..of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps. We get rid of them by making them believe its for their own good..We will find or cause something, a pandemic targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the elderly, it doesn't matter, the weak and the fearful will succumb to it. The stupid will believe in it and ask to be treated, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will therefore be done by itself; they will go to the slaughterhouse alone."
Why don't you go and find the original source? |
Yes and you're vaccine extremist buddy had to point it out to you. Friday 13th started off well for you.
It's OK as i said you're not the first and you won't be the last. | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot (n/t) on 14:25 - Aug 13 with 1069 views | Algorfajack |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 12:15 - Aug 13 by Catullus |
Scotia mate, sorry to have to tell you this but you're wrong. Stumpy understands more than you think but he's just on a wind up. He posts nonsense because, in my opinion, he enjoys it. Then (also in my opinion) he sits back and watches the replies, chuckling to himself about how clever he's been to wind so many people up. That Lisa has outed him as a liar (about being immigre) sparked an angry sounding response, he doesn't like being found out.
I think AFD definitely needs to speak to someone outside his bubble but he doesn't seem to want to believe medical experts unless they agree with his version of things. |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 14:46 - Aug 13 with 1053 views | Scotia |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 14:07 - Aug 13 by RonaldStump |
Yes and you're vaccine extremist buddy had to point it out to you. Friday 13th started off well for you.
It's OK as i said you're not the first and you won't be the last. |
Nobody pointed it out to me except you.
I pointed out to you that it was completely fabricated and doing the rounds on facebook.
Gullible fool. | | | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 14:48 - Aug 13 with 1052 views | Scotia |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 12:15 - Aug 13 by Catullus |
Scotia mate, sorry to have to tell you this but you're wrong. Stumpy understands more than you think but he's just on a wind up. He posts nonsense because, in my opinion, he enjoys it. Then (also in my opinion) he sits back and watches the replies, chuckling to himself about how clever he's been to wind so many people up. That Lisa has outed him as a liar (about being immigre) sparked an angry sounding response, he doesn't like being found out.
I think AFD definitely needs to speak to someone outside his bubble but he doesn't seem to want to believe medical experts unless they agree with his version of things. |
Do you know I actually meant to quote AFD. My mistake.
I'm pretty certain stump is a WUM. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 16:33 - Aug 13 with 1020 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 23:35 - Aug 12 by Professor |
It was released last week you fool. It’s the Imperial data and very much applies to Delta in the U.K. .
Stop playing scientist. Because you don’t know what you are talking about. You really are a sad and sick person. You are completely brainwashed. Beyond hope.
Idiots like you are causing thousands of unnecessary hospitalisations and deaths right now.
Keith really should ban you as you are danger right now. |
Except I was talking about the Vaccine trial Efficacy especailly as you did not provide the animal trial data that I requested.
Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine
December 31, 2020
Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
Dated February 4, 2021
You are disputing the Israeli data, are they by any chance also lying?
https://m.jpost.com/%20israel-
While on the subject of Israel, because the Pfizer vaccine is performing so badly the Natural Immunity of the those having had COVID is 6 times higher than those vaccinated.
https://newsrescue.com/delta-v
But of course I am lying and jeopardising people's lives and should be banned. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 16:48 - Aug 13 with 1025 views | Professor |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 16:33 - Aug 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
Except I was talking about the Vaccine trial Efficacy especailly as you did not provide the animal trial data that I requested.
Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine
December 31, 2020
Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
Dated February 4, 2021
You are disputing the Israeli data, are they by any chance also lying?
https://m.jpost.com/%20israel-
While on the subject of Israel, because the Pfizer vaccine is performing so badly the Natural Immunity of the those having had COVID is 6 times higher than those vaccinated.
https://newsrescue.com/delta-v
But of course I am lying and jeopardising people's lives and should be banned. |
Sums you up- some random source. That's not Israeli data, it''s another idiot like you interpreting it.
I post the papers.
Where are the animal data papers? You don't post them-just some non-verified source
Since all vaccines were tested in non human primates for safety you are clearly talking crap once more. The AZ was also tested on pigs.
rats was it? That is a big, big red flag. Rats are rarely used.
You NEVER post the real science from a reputable source.
Just do one. You are a dangerous person. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 17:48 - Aug 13 with 990 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 16:48 - Aug 13 by Professor |
Sums you up- some random source. That's not Israeli data, it''s another idiot like you interpreting it.
I post the papers.
Where are the animal data papers? You don't post them-just some non-verified source
Since all vaccines were tested in non human primates for safety you are clearly talking crap once more. The AZ was also tested on pigs.
rats was it? That is a big, big red flag. Rats are rarely used.
You NEVER post the real science from a reputable source.
Just do one. You are a dangerous person. |
You are the one that said the Vaccines have been thoroughly tested.
Prove it.
Find and show us the full range of animal tests that you say they have all been through.
Show us the Pfizer/Moderna ones.
While you are at it you can also show the studies on the AZ Primate and Pig ones too.
It is easy to make statements without links to the data, so why don't you provide them?
How many times do I have to ask you?
As to the Israeli data it is all over the internet, so will this source do?
https://www.israelnationalnews | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 17:56 - Aug 13 with 994 views | Catullus |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 14:46 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
Nobody pointed it out to me except you.
I pointed out to you that it was completely fabricated and doing the rounds on facebook.
Gullible fool. |
Why do I think I have AFD and Stumpy on ignore? I only sometimes look at their posts when you and Prof answer them and my interest is piqued.
I mostly ignore both of them because Stumpy is a WUM and AFD, well I feel more sorry for him than anything. He's convinced he's right. I hope it doesn't take him to an early grave. I honestly believe that he completely believes everything he posted on here about covid, he's probably a very nice bloke.
This nonsense, mostly being spread by far right websites and people who are making money out of it, it costs lives, that should never be old news. | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 18:05 - Aug 13 with 991 views | Professor |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 17:48 - Aug 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are the one that said the Vaccines have been thoroughly tested.
Prove it.
Find and show us the full range of animal tests that you say they have all been through.
Show us the Pfizer/Moderna ones.
While you are at it you can also show the studies on the AZ Primate and Pig ones too.
It is easy to make statements without links to the data, so why don't you provide them?
How many times do I have to ask you?
As to the Israeli data it is all over the internet, so will this source do?
https://www.israelnationalnews |
It’s all there. Try PubMed instead of Google. I am not your repository.
Remember I have a job and don’t have time . I am not a retired factory worker | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 18:51 - Aug 13 with 969 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 18:05 - Aug 13 by Professor |
It’s all there. Try PubMed instead of Google. I am not your repository.
Remember I have a job and don’t have time . I am not a retired factory worker |
You don't have time.
Well I do so I looked up the official record for you, both the EU and the UK used the same data for Pfizer.
Tests done on Rats & Mice, so for someone who knows so much about vaccine testing you know SFA about what has been happening with these Vaccines.
Here is your official link
https://www.gov.uk/government/
Go to section 3. Non-clinical aspects and then read just what was done.
I will give you a clue, lots of rats & mice.
Yes one study was carried out on male rhesus macaques aged 2-4 years, but it was for Efficacy.
"The absence of secondary pharmacology and safety pharmacology studies is acceptable for a vaccine and is in line with relevant regulatory guidance (WHO Guidelines on nonclinical evaluation of vaccines, 2005). "
"There are no major public health concerns identified."
Then look at 3.4 Toxiclogy - Quote
Single dose toxicity
"No single dose toxicity studies have been performed. This is acceptable and in line with relevant guidelines (WHO 2005; WHO 2014)"
"Study 20GR142 was a GLP-compliant repeat-dose study performed in rats to evaluate toxicity of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2"
"In Study 38166, male and female Wistar rats were given BNT162b2 as IM injection(s"
So back to the rats "Study R-20-0072: Biodistribution of BNT162b2 using the luciferase protein as a surrogate marker protein after intramuscular injection in mice. Toxicology" is the Japanese stuudy that was evaluated by those 2 people who you do not believe know anything about analysis. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 19:33 - Aug 13 with 969 views | Professor |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 18:51 - Aug 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
You don't have time.
Well I do so I looked up the official record for you, both the EU and the UK used the same data for Pfizer.
Tests done on Rats & Mice, so for someone who knows so much about vaccine testing you know SFA about what has been happening with these Vaccines.
Here is your official link
https://www.gov.uk/government/
Go to section 3. Non-clinical aspects and then read just what was done.
I will give you a clue, lots of rats & mice.
Yes one study was carried out on male rhesus macaques aged 2-4 years, but it was for Efficacy.
"The absence of secondary pharmacology and safety pharmacology studies is acceptable for a vaccine and is in line with relevant regulatory guidance (WHO Guidelines on nonclinical evaluation of vaccines, 2005). "
"There are no major public health concerns identified."
Then look at 3.4 Toxiclogy - Quote
Single dose toxicity
"No single dose toxicity studies have been performed. This is acceptable and in line with relevant guidelines (WHO 2005; WHO 2014)"
"Study 20GR142 was a GLP-compliant repeat-dose study performed in rats to evaluate toxicity of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2"
"In Study 38166, male and female Wistar rats were given BNT162b2 as IM injection(s"
So back to the rats "Study R-20-0072: Biodistribution of BNT162b2 using the luciferase protein as a surrogate marker protein after intramuscular injection in mice. Toxicology" is the Japanese stuudy that was evaluated by those 2 people who you do not believe know anything about analysis. |
Yes. Those proven conspiracy theorists
In fact your post helps tremendously as the toxicology tests did not even have the spike protein mRNA. Now you have been telling us, through the ‘scientists’ you find on ‘I married my sister’ or ‘I love Trump’ that this was the toxic element. The test had luciferase a bioluminescent marker to look how the formulation- the liposome based delivery system behaved. Clearly if it were toxic it would not get through. So why lie ? | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:49 - Aug 13 with 937 views | pikeypaul |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 00:47 - Aug 13 by RonaldStump |
Calling for bans again because your opinions differ.
Having questions that need answering does not equate to more hospitalisations and death.
The very problem here is lack of debate.
The government & MSM don't want it because they would be exposed.
I don't care who you are or what you do but that last sentence makes you an absolute wrong un [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 0:48]
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Correct its the way the lefties work ANYONE that disagrees with them they try to get banned you only have to look at the others of his type who have gone down that path on this forum recently.
Over the last few years they try it in every walk of life , trying to get people silenced and lives ruined if they disagree with them,pretty pathetic people really, but rife in the leftie propaganda camps that he preaches his marxist views in whilst being paid vast amounts of tax payers cash.One word hypocrite.
By the way I am double jabbed and think others should be also,but I appreciate your right to express your opinion even if i disagree with it.
The lefties hate free speech unless they agree with it and will try to get you banned,just like the remoaners accept democracy ONLY if the result goes their way,if not they demand another vote and the result voided. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 20:52]
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:51 - Aug 13 with 924 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 19:33 - Aug 13 by Professor |
Yes. Those proven conspiracy theorists
In fact your post helps tremendously as the toxicology tests did not even have the spike protein mRNA. Now you have been telling us, through the ‘scientists’ you find on ‘I married my sister’ or ‘I love Trump’ that this was the toxic element. The test had luciferase a bioluminescent marker to look how the formulation- the liposome based delivery system behaved. Clearly if it were toxic it would not get through. So why lie ? |
They didn't test the actual Vaccine did they?
They tested it without the "essential" ingredient.
But even that ingredient showed that luciferase was present in most of the major organs of the rats.
I told you ages ago about this study and you just rubbished it, now that the UK government confirm what I said it is now an OK study.
Those " proven conspiracy theorists" analysed this exact study and showed where all the luciferase ended up.
The mere fact that the delivery system and "mRNA" replacement was present in most major organs means that so will the actual mRNA and anything else that the cells express.
Which is exactly what happens with COVID19 as well.
How can you say "Clearly if it were toxic it would not get through."
Get through what and where?
Also you are not admitting that you was completely wrong about the "rats" are you? [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 20:55]
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 21:32 - Aug 13 with 905 views | Catullus |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:49 - Aug 13 by pikeypaul |
Correct its the way the lefties work ANYONE that disagrees with them they try to get banned you only have to look at the others of his type who have gone down that path on this forum recently.
Over the last few years they try it in every walk of life , trying to get people silenced and lives ruined if they disagree with them,pretty pathetic people really, but rife in the leftie propaganda camps that he preaches his marxist views in whilst being paid vast amounts of tax payers cash.One word hypocrite.
By the way I am double jabbed and think others should be also,but I appreciate your right to express your opinion even if i disagree with it.
The lefties hate free speech unless they agree with it and will try to get you banned,just like the remoaners accept democracy ONLY if the result goes their way,if not they demand another vote and the result voided. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 20:52]
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It's the further left, the more extreme lefties that are the problem, just like more extreme right wingers are a problem.
Look at the Corbynistas who invaded Tory meetings and shouted the speaker down. Look at the Universities who practiced "cancel culture", uni being a left wing hotbed usually, even the rich kids can be a bit left wing bolshy!
The more extremist right wingers tend to be at least as if not even more pushy, look at the Trump brigade invading Capitol Hill.
Bteween the two extremes all they are doing is causing problems, thr world is bad enough already,, we need more centrist thinking, calmer heads. | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 21:53 - Aug 13 with 893 views | pikeypaul |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 21:32 - Aug 13 by Catullus |
It's the further left, the more extreme lefties that are the problem, just like more extreme right wingers are a problem.
Look at the Corbynistas who invaded Tory meetings and shouted the speaker down. Look at the Universities who practiced "cancel culture", uni being a left wing hotbed usually, even the rich kids can be a bit left wing bolshy!
The more extremist right wingers tend to be at least as if not even more pushy, look at the Trump brigade invading Capitol Hill.
Bteween the two extremes all they are doing is causing problems, thr world is bad enough already,, we need more centrist thinking, calmer heads. |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 23:04 - Aug 13 with 869 views | KeithHaynes |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:49 - Aug 13 by pikeypaul |
Correct its the way the lefties work ANYONE that disagrees with them they try to get banned you only have to look at the others of his type who have gone down that path on this forum recently.
Over the last few years they try it in every walk of life , trying to get people silenced and lives ruined if they disagree with them,pretty pathetic people really, but rife in the leftie propaganda camps that he preaches his marxist views in whilst being paid vast amounts of tax payers cash.One word hypocrite.
By the way I am double jabbed and think others should be also,but I appreciate your right to express your opinion even if i disagree with it.
The lefties hate free speech unless they agree with it and will try to get you banned,just like the remoaners accept democracy ONLY if the result goes their way,if not they demand another vote and the result voided. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 20:52]
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Is this all really a left and right thing ? | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 07:05 - Aug 14 with 819 views | RonaldStump |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 20:49 - Aug 13 by pikeypaul |
Correct its the way the lefties work ANYONE that disagrees with them they try to get banned you only have to look at the others of his type who have gone down that path on this forum recently.
Over the last few years they try it in every walk of life , trying to get people silenced and lives ruined if they disagree with them,pretty pathetic people really, but rife in the leftie propaganda camps that he preaches his marxist views in whilst being paid vast amounts of tax payers cash.One word hypocrite.
By the way I am double jabbed and think others should be also,but I appreciate your right to express your opinion even if i disagree with it.
The lefties hate free speech unless they agree with it and will try to get you banned,just like the remoaners accept democracy ONLY if the result goes their way,if not they demand another vote and the result voided. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 20:52]
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Totally agree with what you are saying, they really are a horrible bunch of people and will end up causing civil war. As for the vaccine, yes we do disagree on that but i have never been against taking it, I've always said if people want it and they feel safer for it then go for it, as you said it's all about the choice.
I'd also never want to see people suffer if they'd had the vaccine just so i could win an argument (unlike some of the extremists on here who'd like to see an unvaccinated person in hospital to prove a point) . I've got far too many friends and family who have been double jabbed so hope for each and everyone of their sakes this all works out for the good of all.
That said i will continue fighting my corner when people say i shouldn't attend the football or go into a pub because i haven't had the jab. I believe that is everybody's right, and if people don't like who is in there then they have a choice to attend or not.
I've had covid so I believe I have anti bodies and if i ever showed any symptoms i wouldn't set foot outside my house.
The world at the moment is in a right mess and i can't see it getting any better anytime soon. It's a shame because 2 years ago you couldn't have dreamt of this in our lifetime. | |
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| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 08:20 - Aug 14 with 808 views | Professor |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 23:04 - Aug 13 by KeithHaynes |
Is this all really a left and right thing ? |
No. It’s a public health thing. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 08:50 - Aug 14 with 803 views | Scotia |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 08:20 - Aug 14 by Professor |
No. It’s a public health thing. |
And a common sense thing. | | | |
| One for the Anti vaccination lot on 10:52 - Aug 14 with 750 views | felixstowe_jack |
Good to see Canada has said all Federal employees must get vaccinated by the end of October or risk losing their jobs.
Canada has one of the highest rate of adults who have received their first dose
82% not far behind the UK with 89%. | |
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