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Serious question, what the hell is the point in these? Look's like people who have had the vax, can still spread it, so I just why?
For me, it's looking more ridiculous each day, when they first mentioned it was at the time when they said the vaccine would stop the spread, but looking at the case numbers the last few weeks, this is clearly not the case, be quite silly not to be allowed to do something when there isn't any difference from someone who has had the jab or not.
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Vaccine passports on 00:29 - Sep 5 with 1094 views
I don't know exactly, but can you prove nobody is?
This is how these things work, it is how "influencers" make money. They turn, clicks likes and shares in to cash and subsequently attract "sponsorship".
How do you think Stephen Yaxley Lennon was so well off and the unemployed / unemployable Claire Craig manages not to work.
I don't know exactly, but can you prove nobody is?
This is how these things work, it is how "influencers" make money. They turn, clicks likes and shares in to cash and subsequently attract "sponsorship".
How do you think Stephen Yaxley Lennon was so well off and the unemployed / unemployable Claire Craig manages not to work.
They exploit people like you.
You don't know exactly means you don't know at all. OK.
I don't need to as I did not raise it as an issue, you did and now you can't prove it at all. You can only make suggestions that sound just like a conspiracy theory to me.
I don't need to as I did not raise it as an issue, you did and now you can't prove it at all. You can only make suggestions that sound just like a conspiracy theory to me.
I asked you a direct question and you've decided you don't need to answer it. That's fine, the question remains, and is one you should ask yourself.
The post from Magorraglan is absolutely correct, social media exploits the vulnerable much of the time.
Passports for those most likely to be carrying the virus.
You couldn't make it up, what a farce.
Yes, a farce indeed. I mean you couldn't argue really, if the vaccines prevented infections, but by the look they do not.
So come end of the month, someone potentially riddled with covid will be welcomed with open arms, yet someone healthy and virus free will not be allowed in.
I will be surprised if this passes though, because even the dumbest of people should see, that it is not right.
I think we have clearly seen all four actors at play on posts here. Anti-vaxx is a multi-million dollar industry. The recent Channel 4 documentary illustrated this well.
I think we have clearly seen all four actors at play on posts here. Anti-vaxx is a multi-million dollar industry. The recent Channel 4 documentary illustrated this well.
Eh? Could you tell me what questioning these so called vaccine passports has to do with being anti-vax?
The point in question is what is the point of them, please don't muddy the waters.
Yes, a farce indeed. I mean you couldn't argue really, if the vaccines prevented infections, but by the look they do not.
So come end of the month, someone potentially riddled with covid will be welcomed with open arms, yet someone healthy and virus free will not be allowed in.
I will be surprised if this passes though, because even the dumbest of people should see, that it is not right.
The vaccines do prevent infections though, they prevent a lot of infections, although not all.
Someone who is vaccinated is far less likely to be riddled with covid at the time of entry than someone who has a negative result from a home lfd 3 days before the event they are trying to attend. Although perhaps both a vaccine passport and negative test would be better?
The only real alternative is instant pcr test results on entry, which is impossible.
The vaccines do prevent infections though, they prevent a lot of infections, although not all.
Someone who is vaccinated is far less likely to be riddled with covid at the time of entry than someone who has a negative result from a home lfd 3 days before the event they are trying to attend. Although perhaps both a vaccine passport and negative test would be better?
The only real alternative is instant pcr test results on entry, which is impossible.
You seen the case numbers recently? By the look the vaccine doesn't prevent jackshite, double vaxxed are still spreading it, and also double vaxxed are still dying, so what is the point in the bloody passports?
You seen the case numbers recently? By the look the vaccine doesn't prevent jackshite, double vaxxed are still spreading it, and also double vaxxed are still dying, so what is the point in the bloody passports?
Yes I'm seen the figures.
Compare those figures with the figures in January of this year.
Some double vaxxed get covid, and some die, but absolutely nowhere near the amount of unvaccinated. Especially when you consider other conditions, age and the proportion of population.
We haven't vaccinated everyone and the vaccines aren't 100% effective. This is probably as good as it will get for a while yet.
Did you follow the trail to the statement by Hungary’s PM chief of staff Gergely Gulyás on the Hungarian trial data? Does it say what the "Russians" were trying to get other people to say? I don't read Hungarian but I assume that the other peoples translations are correct. Did you look at the data that shows what he said? No, you read the Guardian hit piece and took it on face value. Can you prove that Hungary’s PM chief of staff Gergely Gulyás was lying?
I think we have clearly seen all four actors at play on posts here. Anti-vaxx is a multi-million dollar industry. The recent Channel 4 documentary illustrated this well.
This is the same post as to Major. Did you follow the trail to the statement by Hungary’s PM chief of staff Gergely Gulyás on the Hungarian trial data? Does it say what the "Russians" were trying to get other people to say? I don't read Hungarian but I assume that the other peoples translations are correct. Did you look at the data that shows what he said? No, you read the Guardian hit piece and took it on face value. Can you prove that Hungary’s PM chief of staff Gergely Gulyás was lying?
As to your link there is that catch all word again "Estimate". Sorry that won't do at all, unless they can show actual data their estimate is useless as a "fact".
Compare those figures with the figures in January of this year.
Some double vaxxed get covid, and some die, but absolutely nowhere near the amount of unvaccinated. Especially when you consider other conditions, age and the proportion of population.
We haven't vaccinated everyone and the vaccines aren't 100% effective. This is probably as good as it will get for a while yet.
The OP is about vaccine passports and you have not answered one single criticism of them.
As to the vaccinated spreading the virus and also getting ill and dying, let me ask you these 2 questions. 1. How many are left in the Unvaccinated pool who are likely to spread the virus, get ill from the virus and die from the virus? I will give you a hint I already posted it. 2. How many are left in the Vaccinated pool who are likely to spread the virus, get ill from the virus and die from the virus? I also posted this as well.
Because until we reach Natural herd immunity the vaccinated will continue to spread it amongst themselves until it is reached. Because vaccines do not imbue the vaccinated with complete immunity to the virus.
Or do you disagree with the Scientists that say you can't leaky vaccinate your way out of a current pandemic?
Compare those figures with the figures in January of this year.
Some double vaxxed get covid, and some die, but absolutely nowhere near the amount of unvaccinated. Especially when you consider other conditions, age and the proportion of population.
We haven't vaccinated everyone and the vaccines aren't 100% effective. This is probably as good as it will get for a while yet.
I would say watch what happens come Winter, you can't compare figures from end of summer, to winter times, when they have struck off flu/pneumonia and classified every respiratory illness as covid.
I would say watch what happens come Winter, you can't compare figures from end of summer, to winter times, when they have struck off flu/pneumonia and classified every respiratory illness as covid.
Last January there were more restrictions and no delta variant.
Today we tested 1.1 million people.
Cases will increase over the winter, but nowhere near as much as they would without vaccines. It will be a similar situation with hospitalisation and deaths.
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
I would really suggest you get vaccinated, you will get covid over the winter otherwise, you may still do but it will be like having a cold.
Last January there were more restrictions and no delta variant.
Today we tested 1.1 million people.
Cases will increase over the winter, but nowhere near as much as they would without vaccines. It will be a similar situation with hospitalisation and deaths.
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
I would really suggest you get vaccinated, you will get covid over the winter otherwise, you may still do but it will be like having a cold.
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
Yes that is why the CDC has ditched the PCR test for the coming winter. They want a test that can differentiate between the flu and COVID. Where have you been for the last couple of months?
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
Yes that is why the CDC has ditched the PCR test for the coming winter. They want a test that can differentiate between the flu and COVID. Where have you been for the last couple of months?
Still flogging the life outa the Google search engine I see AFD ... zzzzzzzzzzz
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
Yes that is why the CDC has ditched the PCR test for the coming winter. They want a test that can differentiate between the flu and COVID. Where have you been for the last couple of months?
Where have I been for the last couple of months?
Either Japan or Israel, I forget. They are so easy to confuse aren't they?
Last January there were more restrictions and no delta variant.
Today we tested 1.1 million people.
Cases will increase over the winter, but nowhere near as much as they would without vaccines. It will be a similar situation with hospitalisation and deaths.
Only covid has been classed as covid. Its a completely different virus.
I would really suggest you get vaccinated, you will get covid over the winter otherwise, you may still do but it will be like having a cold.
I think I have come to a point, where I can say I would not give a fuc* if covid took me tomorrow, what has happened to life?, it's gone down the pan.
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