| Vaccine passports 22:24 - Sep 3 with 13070 views | Jack123 |
Serious question, what the hell is the point in these? Look's like people who have had the vax, can still spread it, so I just why?
For me, it's looking more ridiculous each day, when they first mentioned it was at the time when they said the vaccine would stop the spread, but looking at the case numbers the last few weeks, this is clearly not the case, be quite silly not to be allowed to do something when there isn't any difference from someone who has had the jab or not. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 22:24]
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| Vaccine passports on 13:11 - Sep 9 with 743 views | Professor |
| Vaccine passports on 12:47 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
SO if there are tests that show results instantly, what is the point in vaccine passports?
Everyone can just take a test at the turnstyle for instance. |
It's not instant-the NHS-issued ones take about 30 mins (though usually quicker in reality). As Lisa says it works in the same way as a pregnancy test as using an antibody to bind to the target-HCG in a pregnancy test and viral spike protein in the SARS CoV2 test. If the target binds then there is a colorimetric reaction-you get a band (well 2 as there is a control to makes sure the test works). Great as a simple screen, but lack sensitivity to be the main diagnostic.
Should be recommended that people self test regularly when in work, or before going anywhere crowded. Common sense. |  | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:12 - Sep 9 with 737 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:07 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
Every kid in Wales as well (secondary school) had to take two tests before returning to school and two every week during term.
Same as England.
Results are recorded online. |
Well I'm telling you for a fat that he has just joined year 7 and has not had one test.
My niece is in infant school.
My brother just told me that they are not doing testing in either school.
*edit....FACT [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 13:17]
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| Vaccine passports on 13:15 - Sep 9 with 725 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:04 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Well, I know you get results by email with PCR, so it's surprising you can get results instantly.
Don't watch the news.
How are people like that meant to know about it?
I've never heard of a free test that you can get and do on the spot. Sorry about that. |
How are people that don’t try to find out stuff by watching, reading or listening to the news etc supposed to find things out?
No idea.
Take some responsibility maybe? If this is the first time you’ve heard of lateral flow testing, then the comments you are making about vaccines etc don’t seem very well founded to be honest as you’re not doing much to educate yourself. Maybe Russell Brand could do a video? | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:18 - Sep 9 with 720 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:12 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Well I'm telling you for a fat that he has just joined year 7 and has not had one test.
My niece is in infant school.
My brother just told me that they are not doing testing in either school.
*edit....FACT [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 13:17]
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‘They’ are not doing testing. The kids are supposed to be testing themselves. Doesn’t apply in infants school. As I said, it’s secondary school.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
It may no5 be as strict in Wales as it is in England. Which is why rates are miles higher. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:19 - Sep 9 with 717 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:18 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
‘They’ are not doing testing. The kids are supposed to be testing themselves. Doesn’t apply in infants school. As I said, it’s secondary school.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
It may no5 be as strict in Wales as it is in England. Which is why rates are miles higher. |
"advising" it says. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:24 - Sep 9 with 705 views | jackrmee |
Does the lateral flow tests have to go up the nose as well? | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:24 - Sep 9 with 705 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passports on 13:19 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
"advising" it says. |
Advising that they'll have to test. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:26 - Sep 9 with 703 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passports on 13:24 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Does the lateral flow tests have to go up the nose as well? |
Yes in most cases, certainly the NHS ones.
The one I used to come back from Spain was just up the nose. | | | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:28 - Sep 9 with 694 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:19 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
"advising" it says. |
“ The Welsh Government is demanding parents make sure their child takes twice-weekly lateral flow tests before term starts and throughout the rest of the academic year in a desperate bid to prevent the same level of disruption to day-to-day learning that was seen during the peak of the pandemic.
The strict measures come just a few weeks before children go back to school and colleges and universities re-open. Initially all learners will be expected to take two lateral flow tests in the week before their first day back. And throughout term time everyone is being asked to take regular rapid lateral flow tests twice a week and to report the results online.”
As I say, enforcement may not be as strict.
But the guidance is clear.
The reality is you, your brother, anyone else, are not children. If you only do stuff because it’s THE LAW rather than because it’s sensible then bully for you. But that’s the reason that things like vaccine passports will become law. It’s because people can’t be relied on.
I don’t believe that your brother didn’t know that twice weekly testing was required. As all parents have been informed. The issue is that others will also ignore it if they have the same attitude. And if you have a nephew who is autistic, and autistic kids are more vulnerable to more severe disease and have higher rates of death through Covid, which it seems is the case, that’s not great. I’d imagine family in that position would do everything they could? | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:28 - Sep 9 with 693 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:24 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
Advising that they'll have to test. |
How do people know about it if they don't read papers though?
No-one at the school has mentioned tests to them. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:32 - Sep 9 with 679 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:28 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
“ The Welsh Government is demanding parents make sure their child takes twice-weekly lateral flow tests before term starts and throughout the rest of the academic year in a desperate bid to prevent the same level of disruption to day-to-day learning that was seen during the peak of the pandemic.
The strict measures come just a few weeks before children go back to school and colleges and universities re-open. Initially all learners will be expected to take two lateral flow tests in the week before their first day back. And throughout term time everyone is being asked to take regular rapid lateral flow tests twice a week and to report the results online.”
As I say, enforcement may not be as strict.
But the guidance is clear.
The reality is you, your brother, anyone else, are not children. If you only do stuff because it’s THE LAW rather than because it’s sensible then bully for you. But that’s the reason that things like vaccine passports will become law. It’s because people can’t be relied on.
I don’t believe that your brother didn’t know that twice weekly testing was required. As all parents have been informed. The issue is that others will also ignore it if they have the same attitude. And if you have a nephew who is autistic, and autistic kids are more vulnerable to more severe disease and have higher rates of death through Covid, which it seems is the case, that’s not great. I’d imagine family in that position would do everything they could? |
Hang on a minute!
No-one has mentioned to my brother anything about tests. If they were so worried, then surely a teacher would have mentioned it.
The first my brother heard of this is when I showed him that article 2 minutes ago.
Get off your high horse, sweetheart. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:35 - Sep 9 with 675 views | Professor |
| Vaccine passports on 13:28 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
How do people know about it if they don't read papers though?
No-one at the school has mentioned tests to them. |
We (Wirral) are supplied tests from school. We have bi-weekly email reminders. At start of term (last week) all year 7 and 12 were tested at school. You can opt out, and some do, including my son as he suffers with ASD. My wife who is a Teaching Support Assistant, daughter and I all test 1-3 times each week. This is reality for now. It may change with more effective vaccines that reduce transmission more than the first generation, though 50% is not that bad, and higher levels of vaccines or post-infection immunity. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:39 - Sep 9 with 668 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:35 - Sep 9 by Professor |
We (Wirral) are supplied tests from school. We have bi-weekly email reminders. At start of term (last week) all year 7 and 12 were tested at school. You can opt out, and some do, including my son as he suffers with ASD. My wife who is a Teaching Support Assistant, daughter and I all test 1-3 times each week. This is reality for now. It may change with more effective vaccines that reduce transmission more than the first generation, though 50% is not that bad, and higher levels of vaccines or post-infection immunity. |
Yeah my nephew has ASD too. He had to take a test when his mother tested positive a few months ago. He was traumatised. Massively upsets him just seeing others get tested, as he's scared he will have to d it again. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:40 - Sep 9 with 665 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:32 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Hang on a minute!
No-one has mentioned to my brother anything about tests. If they were so worried, then surely a teacher would have mentioned it.
The first my brother heard of this is when I showed him that article 2 minutes ago.
Get off your high horse, sweetheart. |
I find it hard to believe that the school hasn’t said anything. Everyone I know has been sent several reminders.
Most people may think ‘I wonder what the situation is going to be re Covid in school now’ of course, rather than complaining that people who don’t ever watch or listen to or read news can’t find anything out.
Sweetheart. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:41 - Sep 9 with 664 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:40 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
I find it hard to believe that the school hasn’t said anything. Everyone I know has been sent several reminders.
Most people may think ‘I wonder what the situation is going to be re Covid in school now’ of course, rather than complaining that people who don’t ever watch or listen to or read news can’t find anything out.
Sweetheart. |
Whether you find it hard to believe is irrelevant. It's the truth! | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:43 - Sep 9 with 659 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:39 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Yeah my nephew has ASD too. He had to take a test when his mother tested positive a few months ago. He was traumatised. Massively upsets him just seeing others get tested, as he's scared he will have to d it again. |
And that’s fair enough.
As I said, the problem is that is others have a similarly ‘whatever’ view, ‘it’s only advice’ then incidences of cases will rocket in that school and it will become far more dangerous for him and others in special circumstances. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:43 - Sep 9 with 661 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passports on 13:28 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
How do people know about it if they don't read papers though?
No-one at the school has mentioned tests to them. |
I'm not having a go at anyone - but when my daughter went back to school I proactively looked in to what I need to do to make sure she is as safe as possible in school and, by association, so are the rest of my family.
She's too young to test regularly, but my wife and I test at least weekly even though I work from home, I'll be honest though I don't always report my results. We test my daughter if she has symptoms, it's not easy.
The school really should have made it clear though - is it a standard Welsh comp?
If this has come as such a surprise where to you get your info about Bill Gates and vaccines from? | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:44 - Sep 9 with 655 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:41 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Whether you find it hard to believe is irrelevant. It's the truth! |
What school is it?
Your brother should be contacting them to ask why he hasn’t been given guidance. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:47 - Sep 9 with 649 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:43 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
I'm not having a go at anyone - but when my daughter went back to school I proactively looked in to what I need to do to make sure she is as safe as possible in school and, by association, so are the rest of my family.
She's too young to test regularly, but my wife and I test at least weekly even though I work from home, I'll be honest though I don't always report my results. We test my daughter if she has symptoms, it's not easy.
The school really should have made it clear though - is it a standard Welsh comp?
If this has come as such a surprise where to you get your info about Bill Gates and vaccines from? |
In fairness, my nephew wouldn't be taking the tests anyway, but if it's such a big thing, surely someone would have mentioned it from the school.
Yeah it's a Welsh comp.
I like Russell Brand. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 13:48]
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| Vaccine passports on 13:48 - Sep 9 with 647 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:44 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
What school is it?
Your brother should be contacting them to ask why he hasn’t been given guidance. |
Not sure the name of the school. It's a secondary school in Llandeilo. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 13:51 - Sep 9 with 638 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vaccine passports on 13:48 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Not sure the name of the school. It's a secondary school in Llandeilo. |
If they haven’t done what they are supposed to do they need to be reported. There is evidence that Covid is more dangerous to kids with ASD and the school need to be protecting kids in their care by making sure everyone is testing. | | | |
| Vaccine passports on 13:54 - Sep 9 with 634 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 13:44 - Sep 9 by londonlisa2001 |
What school is it?
Your brother should be contacting them to ask why he hasn’t been given guidance. |
My brother has met all the teachers and is even in a Whatsappp group with them for regular contact. HE said they may be testing the older kids, but nothing mentioned about my nephew at all.
He just text a friend of his who is a teacher at a secondary school in Llanelli.
THey said:
"the tests are voluntary and schools issue lateral flows to be completed every Sunday and Wednesday eve. They are not compulsory though."
That still doesn't change the fact that my nephew's school still haven't mentioned about him having a test. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 16:06 - Sep 9 with 571 views | Catullus |
| Vaccine passports on 13:32 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
Hang on a minute!
No-one has mentioned to my brother anything about tests. If they were so worried, then surely a teacher would have mentioned it.
The first my brother heard of this is when I showed him that article 2 minutes ago.
Get off your high horse, sweetheart. |
We had a message from ur sons school saying he was to do a test the day before going back and then Thursday, Sunday, Thursday etc. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 16:44 - Sep 9 with 555 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine passports on 13:54 - Sep 9 by jackrmee |
My brother has met all the teachers and is even in a Whatsappp group with them for regular contact. HE said they may be testing the older kids, but nothing mentioned about my nephew at all.
He just text a friend of his who is a teacher at a secondary school in Llanelli.
THey said:
"the tests are voluntary and schools issue lateral flows to be completed every Sunday and Wednesday eve. They are not compulsory though."
That still doesn't change the fact that my nephew's school still haven't mentioned about him having a test. |
Blame his school then. | |
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| Vaccine passports on 16:46 - Sep 9 with 553 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passports on 16:44 - Sep 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Blame his school then. |
I'm not trying to blame anyone.
I was just saying what happened and was called a liar, so got my goat up, that' all. | |
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