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Serious question, what the hell is the point in these? Look's like people who have had the vax, can still spread it, so I just why?
For me, it's looking more ridiculous each day, when they first mentioned it was at the time when they said the vaccine would stop the spread, but looking at the case numbers the last few weeks, this is clearly not the case, be quite silly not to be allowed to do something when there isn't any difference from someone who has had the jab or not.
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libera nos a malo
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Vaccine passports on 22:37 - Sep 9 with 1561 views
Scottish Tories oppose SNP's passports. Tories in England bring them in. Not an inner-party schism, just a glimpse into the inherently contrarian bullshit ingrained in politics. Scottish Labour say no to passports, Welsh Labour coy. Could we hope for ideological consistency? Don't bet a penny on it.
Playing politics with our lives; our basic freedoms. To quote Alan Partridge - scum; subhuman scum.
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Vaccine passports on 23:36 - Sep 9 with 1536 views
I'll tell you why Lisa;it's because you have accepted these extraordinary times and how covid ha changed our comfortable little lives for all time. We are killing ourselves by stupidity and arrogance;we have people begging for a stop to the covid carnage then when we get a vaccine that CAN help,we have nutters that dismiss itoffereing no alternative whatsoever.
I have Ron countless times as to what he would have done and what we should do now.
He can't and doesnt answer as there is no answer. We have to trust scientists.Yep,TRUST-it eems we are too cynical these days even in the face of death when it's staring us in te face.
Make no mistake, mankind has contributed massively to his own demise.
And we haven't wised up even now.
THE SKY IS CRYING
You're sounding like r Joe everyday you senile old bugger!! I've told you many times the way out of this fraud. It is the only way we get back to normality. Problem we have is too many have been brainwashed by the government and believe everything that comes out of the corrupt bunch of frauds mouths. I know the sensible way out but until the brainwashed wake up in bigger numbers it will never happen. The compliant are complicit in this mass crime against humanity
(He She Him)
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Vaccine passports on 23:50 - Sep 9 with 1523 views
Not sure what I think of it really, arguments for and against I guess. But I guarantee it will be the same pro SNP parasites that complain when BOJO brings it in.
I can assure you there will be war over this Nobody can take peoples inalienable rights away from them because they choose to. Governments the world over will pay a heavy heavy price for these crimes against humanity
(He She Him)
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Vaccine passports on 23:53 - Sep 9 with 1516 views
The news corporations that are owned and run by the same people who own the pharmaceutical industries. People are finally waking up and realising it's a skewed game .
Who owns both a news organisation and a pharmaceutical company?
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Vaccine passports on 23:55 - Sep 9 with 1516 views
I can assure you there will be war over this Nobody can take peoples inalienable rights away from them because they choose to. Governments the world over will pay a heavy heavy price for these crimes against humanity
Yep, they keep moving the goalposts all the time, one minute 2 weeks to flatten the curve, now we are nearly at a stage where vax passports may be implemented, for nightclubs and large events they say, but of course any sane person can see the road the government are trying to travel down.
It was only within the last few months the ministers had denied categorically vaccine passports would be introduced, and here we are now, almost imminent
I would say all the pro vax passports fans meaning pro if you don't question them. it will not stop there. The current introduction would hardly affect me, but I know it will in the future, and unfortunately the way it's going, everybody else as well.
Covid get's me so bloody wound up!!
Good morning britain, this morning titles running across the bottom of tv screen this morning, something like 80% of Gp's no longer feel face to face consolations are necessary :(
One thing thing we will end up with once all this is over (hopefully) Is bloody bad health and bad teeth, cause I can't even get a check-up since the start of this.
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libera nos a malo
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Vaccine passports on 02:30 - Sep 10 with 1451 views
Life has been pretty crap for a lot of people recently. I am gutted you feel like that.
I've had some really down days myself this year, especially in Jan / Feb and it's not nice.
Ignoring covid and trying to pretend we aren't in this sh1tty situation isn't going to make it better.
The virus exists, it's lethal, the tests are accurate and the vaccines work.
Stop listening to cranks and loonies, even if what they say sounds better than the real experts, and get a vaccine.
Sorry, It shouldn't have been put like that, It's just the constant, not going away stuff, of course I'm very brave after a few drinks mate, calling out covid , come and get me or just fck off, I must think I am talking to an enemy from another village or city..
If I'm wrong, I am wrong, but will say the actual news, bbc/itv put me where I am now, they scared me away a long time ago.
Scottish Tories oppose SNP's passports. Tories in England bring them in. Not an inner-party schism, just a glimpse into the inherently contrarian bullshit ingrained in politics. Scottish Labour say no to passports, Welsh Labour coy. Could we hope for ideological consistency? Don't bet a penny on it.
Playing politics with our lives; our basic freedoms. To quote Alan Partridge - scum; subhuman scum.
Doesn't that suggest that these people do not care about their people, but instead, care about political tactics?
Do the government want vaccine passports in England to keep the nation safe? How can this be true, if their colleagues in Scotland don't want vaccine passports? Do the Scottish Tories not want vaccine passport, because they don't believe they will help, or because they have political reasons for opposing the Scottish governments ideas for having them?
Yet everyone who are worried about the government agenda are ridiculed for lying, being anti-vaxxers.
Doesn't that suggest that these people do not care about their people, but instead, care about political tactics?
Do the government want vaccine passports in England to keep the nation safe? How can this be true, if their colleagues in Scotland don't want vaccine passports? Do the Scottish Tories not want vaccine passport, because they don't believe they will help, or because they have political reasons for opposing the Scottish governments ideas for having them?
Yet everyone who are worried about the government agenda are ridiculed for lying, being anti-vaxxers.
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It is same reason labour voted against extra funding for the NHS . Opposition parties pretending to do something.
To start with he says "with the exception of CBS" CBS is a pretty big new corp, do they portray a different message to the other news networks? No, they don't.
It only applies to the US. I know most Americans don't realise it, but there is a very large World outside of the US. Most of which these "big Pharma" companies have no involvement with the news organisations of, they aren't on their boards and they aren't allowed to advertise on them.
Do these companies portray a different message? No. It is completely consistent around the developed world. That is get vaccinated and save lives.
I also particularly liked the link at the end to advertise his law firm. He is doing exactly what he accuses big Pharma of doing.
I'm sorry but it is misrepresented rubbish.
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Vaccine passports on 08:26 - Sep 10 with 1341 views
To start with he says "with the exception of CBS" CBS is a pretty big new corp, do they portray a different message to the other news networks? No, they don't.
It only applies to the US. I know most Americans don't realise it, but there is a very large World outside of the US. Most of which these "big Pharma" companies have no involvement with the news organisations of, they aren't on their boards and they aren't allowed to advertise on them.
Do these companies portray a different message? No. It is completely consistent around the developed world. That is get vaccinated and save lives.
I also particularly liked the link at the end to advertise his law firm. He is doing exactly what he accuses big Pharma of doing.
I'm sorry but it is misrepresented rubbish.
It's consistent in almost all mainstream media, yes. The video may be about the US, but to think that we are not affected by it is somewhat naïve if you ask me. These massive corporations don't just exist in the US.
And before you start saying that guy is a charlatan, or this link is rubbish etc. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I don't trust mainstream media to be telling me the truth, as they have their own agenda. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I don't care what you do or anyone else on here for that matter. I'm just pointing out articles and videos I've seen that don't agree with the mainstream narrative.
There are 3 sides to every story...One side...The other side...And the truth.
My point is, if you blindly follow what the News, or the people on TV, or the government tells you, thinking it's for your benefit, you'll be very disappointed at least, and possibly dead at worst. It's about being open-minded and not just following the crowd IMO.
I'm by no means saying that I know everything, or anything for that matter. What I do know, is that I do not trust the government or the mainstream media.
I don't particularly like getting into drawn out debates on this, as it winds me up and people start getting upset. I'm not a liar. I just say what I see.
What winds me up, is that I have no argument with people who want the vaccine. My Mum has had it (which I agree with), my daughter has had it (which I don't agree with), but that's totally up to them. They can make their own decisions. So how can't people let me make my own decision?
It's consistent in almost all mainstream media, yes. The video may be about the US, but to think that we are not affected by it is somewhat naïve if you ask me. These massive corporations don't just exist in the US.
And before you start saying that guy is a charlatan, or this link is rubbish etc. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I don't trust mainstream media to be telling me the truth, as they have their own agenda. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I don't care what you do or anyone else on here for that matter. I'm just pointing out articles and videos I've seen that don't agree with the mainstream narrative.
There are 3 sides to every story...One side...The other side...And the truth.
My point is, if you blindly follow what the News, or the people on TV, or the government tells you, thinking it's for your benefit, you'll be very disappointed at least, and possibly dead at worst. It's about being open-minded and not just following the crowd IMO.
I'm by no means saying that I know everything, or anything for that matter. What I do know, is that I do not trust the government or the mainstream media.
I don't particularly like getting into drawn out debates on this, as it winds me up and people start getting upset. I'm not a liar. I just say what I see.
What winds me up, is that I have no argument with people who want the vaccine. My Mum has had it (which I agree with), my daughter has had it (which I don't agree with), but that's totally up to them. They can make their own decisions. So how can't people let me make my own decision?
Interesting links. The relationship between drugs companies, health providers, medical research organizations, news organisations and government is a tangled web of conflicted interests if you start digging.
The opioid crisis gets little media attention despite being responsible for over 600,000 deaths in the US. The drugs companies admit they misrepresented the research, misled government and used money to influence health care providers.
It's consistent in almost all mainstream media, yes. The video may be about the US, but to think that we are not affected by it is somewhat naïve if you ask me. These massive corporations don't just exist in the US.
And before you start saying that guy is a charlatan, or this link is rubbish etc. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I don't trust mainstream media to be telling me the truth, as they have their own agenda. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I don't care what you do or anyone else on here for that matter. I'm just pointing out articles and videos I've seen that don't agree with the mainstream narrative.
There are 3 sides to every story...One side...The other side...And the truth.
My point is, if you blindly follow what the News, or the people on TV, or the government tells you, thinking it's for your benefit, you'll be very disappointed at least, and possibly dead at worst. It's about being open-minded and not just following the crowd IMO.
I'm by no means saying that I know everything, or anything for that matter. What I do know, is that I do not trust the government or the mainstream media.
I don't particularly like getting into drawn out debates on this, as it winds me up and people start getting upset. I'm not a liar. I just say what I see.
What winds me up, is that I have no argument with people who want the vaccine. My Mum has had it (which I agree with), my daughter has had it (which I don't agree with), but that's totally up to them. They can make their own decisions. So how can't people let me make my own decision?
But you are being closed minded and following the crowd. Just to a different story and a different crowd. Far more so than somebody who watches the BBC and thinks about what they are seeing.
I'm sure you're not a liar, but what you are seeing, especially if you don't watch the news or read the media, is largely misinformation or disinformation.
Just think about this guys argument for a minute it is completely full of holes and nonsense.
What big pharma representation is there on the board of the BBC, Russia Today, Al Jazeera, Xinhua etc? They're all conveying the same basic story.
That is get vaccinated and save lives.
The so called main stream media isn't perfect, but the political bias is usually clear and can be disregarded.
These idiots posting on YouTube usually just post unregulated nonsense. Those links are the same.
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Vaccine passports on 10:05 - Sep 10 with 1311 views
But you are being closed minded and following the crowd. Just to a different story and a different crowd. Far more so than somebody who watches the BBC and thinks about what they are seeing.
I'm sure you're not a liar, but what you are seeing, especially if you don't watch the news or read the media, is largely misinformation or disinformation.
Just think about this guys argument for a minute it is completely full of holes and nonsense.
What big pharma representation is there on the board of the BBC, Russia Today, Al Jazeera, Xinhua etc? They're all conveying the same basic story.
That is get vaccinated and save lives.
The so called main stream media isn't perfect, but the political bias is usually clear and can be disregarded.
These idiots posting on YouTube usually just post unregulated nonsense. Those links are the same.
I'm not saying I believe everything that is said by these other outlets either, hence 3 sides to every story.
I used to watch tv and read MSM newspapers. I don't any more. I may come across the odd story from these MSM outlets on here, or YouTube or after being pointed towards it by a friend, but I try to steer clear if I can.
As for these other opposing views and articles....if I read them I read them with an open mind. Not as the truth.
If you don't think any of those links I just posted are interesting, let alone alarming, then that's your prerogative, but I just posted them as they seem to back up that guy on the video who you said was merely propaganda. Maybe it is, but these links say otherwise.
Not everyone posting on Youtube is an "idiot". Not everyone in high profile positions are not idiots.
That is just misinformed nonsense that is designed to wind up those that have zero knowledge of the way public ownership of companies works and zero knowledge of the way asset managers and mutual funds work either.
It’s genuinely laughable.
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Vaccine passports on 12:05 - Sep 10 with 1275 views
Vaccine passports on 09:49 - Sep 10 by JACKMANANDBOY
Interesting links. The relationship between drugs companies, health providers, medical research organizations, news organisations and government is a tangled web of conflicted interests if you start digging.
The opioid crisis gets little media attention despite being responsible for over 600,000 deaths in the US. The drugs companies admit they misrepresented the research, misled government and used money to influence health care providers.
Also helps to understand that first link is paid for by Robert Kennedy Jr. About as unbiased as a pharmaceutical advert in the US. Good job we don't allow advertising to the public.
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Vaccine passports on 12:11 - Sep 10 with 1270 views
That is just misinformed nonsense that is designed to wind up those that have zero knowledge of the way public ownership of companies works and zero knowledge of the way asset managers and mutual funds work either.
It’s genuinely laughable.
So you're saying there's definitely no chance that all but one US media outlet shares at least one board member with at least one pharmaceutical company?
So you're saying there's definitely no chance that all but one US media outlet shares at least one board member with at least one pharmaceutical company?
I have no idea how company ownership or hedge funds work.
It's obvious that the ownership of US media companies has no relevance to a global pandemic or a global vaccination programme.
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Vaccine passports on 12:29 - Sep 10 with 1262 views
So you're saying there's definitely no chance that all but one US media outlet shares at least one board member with at least one pharmaceutical company?
I'm surprised one does not when you look at the shareholdings.
I have no idea how company ownership or hedge funds work.
It's obvious that the ownership of US media companies has no relevance to a global pandemic or a global vaccination programme.
It's not obvious and the post was to back up what Hownejack said previously.
If (not saying they definitely are) the media companies were owned by the pharmaceutical companies, of course it would be relevant. They could tell you what they want you to hear only. They could influence the masses as to how they feel about it all, which would influence how the act.
To start with he says "with the exception of CBS" CBS is a pretty big new corp, do they portray a different message to the other news networks? No, they don't.
It only applies to the US. I know most Americans don't realise it, but there is a very large World outside of the US. Most of which these "big Pharma" companies have no involvement with the news organisations of, they aren't on their boards and they aren't allowed to advertise on them.
Do these companies portray a different message? No. It is completely consistent around the developed world. That is get vaccinated and save lives.
I also particularly liked the link at the end to advertise his law firm. He is doing exactly what he accuses big Pharma of doing.
I'm sorry but it is misrepresented rubbish.
Wrong George Sorros is funding many different news corps in many different countries, and that is just for starters.
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