| Piroe's goal against Blackpool 08:59 - Nov 24 with 4700 views | OptimisticJack | Surely must have been mentioned somewhere and I've missed it. 37 passes before scoring and involved 10 players. Seen it on Twitter but unable to post a link on here. Can anyone assist by posting the link? The incredible build up play resulting in a sublime finish. An obvious candidate for goal of the season. |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 19:30 - Nov 24 with 1178 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 18:13 - Nov 24 by Brynmill_Jack | Great to watch but the finish itself was a work of art. We all assumed he was a left footed player who could use his right. Now I’m not sure if it’s the other way around ! Either way he can finish with both feet equally deadly or his head. I’m not so sure even Michu could strike the ball that hard with his weaker foot. |
The ability to shift from one foot to another casually and not notice a drop off in quality as Piroe does in this clip is one of my favourite things in football. Players with a cracking ‘weak’ foot always rub me the right way. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 20:52 - Nov 24 with 1127 views | KeithHaynes |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 17:44 - Nov 24 by onehunglow | Well,at least he doesn’t toe the party line . I thought yiu were a bit of a rebel yourself Guv All opinions |
Rebel with a cause not a toothbrush 😉 |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 21:11 - Nov 24 with 1115 views | AndyCole |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 13:54 - Nov 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar | 37 passes yet not once did we get in behind their defence. After about 30 safe passes and 2 minutes of possession, one Swansea player finally tries something "risky" by dropping his shoulder and beating his man. Even still, we did not break through Blackpool's defence. The attack culminated in a highly speculative, long range shot. Let's not exaggerate the goal. Watch Lita's goal away at Blackburn to see us actually drag opposition players out of position through quick, expansive passing before actually breaking in behind their defence and creating an excellent goal scoring opportunity. |
. This. The video should be snuck into the manager's inbox / filing cabinet, noted under 'U' for Urgent. And into the Inboxes of All our players and coaching staff. We need to thrust ourselves further upfield with far more purpose. Grimes should be Unchained............ . . |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 22:54 - Nov 24 with 1087 views | majorraglan |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 13:54 - Nov 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar | 37 passes yet not once did we get in behind their defence. After about 30 safe passes and 2 minutes of possession, one Swansea player finally tries something "risky" by dropping his shoulder and beating his man. Even still, we did not break through Blackpool's defence. The attack culminated in a highly speculative, long range shot. Let's not exaggerate the goal. Watch Lita's goal away at Blackburn to see us actually drag opposition players out of position through quick, expansive passing before actually breaking in behind their defence and creating an excellent goal scoring opportunity. |
It was a great goal accompanied by a great finish, but there is (in my opinion) some some substance to the points you make. Its still early days for Martin and he continues to try and shape the team the way he wants to play - Rome wasn’t built in a day. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 23:11 - Nov 24 with 1080 views | OptimisticJack | Everybody has an opinion and you will never please the masses. (Justin Langer - Australian Cricket Coach 2018 ) |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 01:53 - Nov 25 with 1053 views | DJack |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 19:18 - Nov 24 by KeithHaynes | If that goal was Swansea City 1981 we would still be talking about it now mate. |
...well, most of us would... |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 04:52 - Nov 25 with 1020 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 02:54 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | Almost as if the entire point of the start of the season was laying the foundations of this system. |
That point has been argued to death, it still doesn’t make any sense though regardless of what username you use. You don’t lay foundations by cutting out the part the players can already do well and are used to. If we were laying the foundations for a mixed style then we would see high concentrations of long balls at the start, which is what we were used to (according to many) and then slowly bringing that down over time to reach our goal. That’s a foundation with a plan to develop. We saw the opposite. What we saw was 4% long balls and 96% short passes, a radical and opposite approach which saw us get ripped apart time and time again while offering nothing of any sort going forwards as we were restricted to short passes and often couldn’t get out of our positions under the press. It was certainly not the plan to do that, anyone suggesting so is being dishonest or delusional, either one. What was noted at the time is that this “short at all costs” brand isn’t going to work, and will not work. It needs to have a mixed element in order to work, Martinez, Rodgers, Laurdrup, Sousa and Potter all had this long element added in. We need to go back to some of the longer elements in our game that we did to good effect last year and mix that into the shorter style being developed. It was explained in great detail and great depth, yet was met with the usual “negative”, “anti Martin” nonsense. Complete common sense now of course as we have seen and documented the change and the results that have come with it. Yet we were told he cannot adapt and will not adapt and time will make this 4% short passing game work. We said we disagree and fully believe he can and will change it. The change was obviously needed so would be ridiculous to think he wouldn’t. Now he has adapted and we are regularly double and triple the long balls we saw at the start, people are pretending that they said that this was the plan all along. When in fact they obviously didn’t and it was those that were vocal early that indeed called the correct change that was needed allowing us to see such goals in the OP. Hence we now get these boring threads time, after time, after time, after time of people that are trying to justify their stance that he was not adaptable and was not going to incorporate the long ball into the style by pretending we are still “short at all costs”. We aren’t. These conversations have been happening since August :- [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 5:12]
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 06:33 - Nov 25 with 1002 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 14:02 - Nov 24 by onehunglow | "Utter morons" aren't they. If this long term "work in progress" is derailed then I hope we see a surge in the consumption of humble pie as there is a clear mandate now to smear anyone who is not in Russyclub,. Not even Laudrup, a proven renowned superstar has this puppy love. |
Burn the unbeliever, he’s a witch ! (Turned me into a newt) |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 09:21 - Nov 25 with 946 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 04:52 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus | That point has been argued to death, it still doesn’t make any sense though regardless of what username you use. You don’t lay foundations by cutting out the part the players can already do well and are used to. If we were laying the foundations for a mixed style then we would see high concentrations of long balls at the start, which is what we were used to (according to many) and then slowly bringing that down over time to reach our goal. That’s a foundation with a plan to develop. We saw the opposite. What we saw was 4% long balls and 96% short passes, a radical and opposite approach which saw us get ripped apart time and time again while offering nothing of any sort going forwards as we were restricted to short passes and often couldn’t get out of our positions under the press. It was certainly not the plan to do that, anyone suggesting so is being dishonest or delusional, either one. What was noted at the time is that this “short at all costs” brand isn’t going to work, and will not work. It needs to have a mixed element in order to work, Martinez, Rodgers, Laurdrup, Sousa and Potter all had this long element added in. We need to go back to some of the longer elements in our game that we did to good effect last year and mix that into the shorter style being developed. It was explained in great detail and great depth, yet was met with the usual “negative”, “anti Martin” nonsense. Complete common sense now of course as we have seen and documented the change and the results that have come with it. Yet we were told he cannot adapt and will not adapt and time will make this 4% short passing game work. We said we disagree and fully believe he can and will change it. The change was obviously needed so would be ridiculous to think he wouldn’t. Now he has adapted and we are regularly double and triple the long balls we saw at the start, people are pretending that they said that this was the plan all along. When in fact they obviously didn’t and it was those that were vocal early that indeed called the correct change that was needed allowing us to see such goals in the OP. Hence we now get these boring threads time, after time, after time, after time of people that are trying to justify their stance that he was not adaptable and was not going to incorporate the long ball into the style by pretending we are still “short at all costs”. We aren’t. These conversations have been happening since August :- [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 5:12]
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“That point has been argued to death, it still doesn’t make any sense though regardless of what username you use.“ Why do you keep trying to derail threads with this nonsensical BS? I joined here to debate about Swansea and this is the third or fourth thread you’ve tried to escape a bad point by bringing up your paranoid fantasies about me. Has to stop now. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 09:57 - Nov 25 with 937 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 09:21 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | “That point has been argued to death, it still doesn’t make any sense though regardless of what username you use.“ Why do you keep trying to derail threads with this nonsensical BS? I joined here to debate about Swansea and this is the third or fourth thread you’ve tried to escape a bad point by bringing up your paranoid fantasies about me. Has to stop now. |
I am not derailing anything. Which point do you feel is bad, needing to be escaped from? I think I just explained in great detail didn't I? I 100% don't think you are a new poster, why do you let it get to you? I told you not to let it. |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:31 - Nov 25 with 929 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 09:57 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus | I am not derailing anything. Which point do you feel is bad, needing to be escaped from? I think I just explained in great detail didn't I? I 100% don't think you are a new poster, why do you let it get to you? I told you not to let it. |
I don’t care what you think about me. I literally have no idea who you are so you have no effect on my life. I don’t follow you into other football related threads inserting my personal opinions on your character because I disagree with your thoughts points. It’s just weird and says a lot more about you than me. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:35 - Nov 25 with 924 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:31 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | I don’t care what you think about me. I literally have no idea who you are so you have no effect on my life. I don’t follow you into other football related threads inserting my personal opinions on your character because I disagree with your thoughts points. It’s just weird and says a lot more about you than me. |
Stop obsessing about it then. So which point do you disagree with then? |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:37 - Nov 25 with 924 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:35 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus | Stop obsessing about it then. So which point do you disagree with then? |
I have never obsessed over it, you’re the one who randomly brought it up, genius. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:38 - Nov 25 with 918 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:37 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | I have never obsessed over it, you’re the one who randomly brought it up, genius. |
It made up about 6 words of my post, ever since that’s all you have spoken about. So what do you disagree with? |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:39 - Nov 25 with 917 views | onehunglow |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:37 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | I have never obsessed over it, you’re the one who randomly brought it up, genius. |
You re not “ new” though are you?. |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:41 - Nov 25 with 919 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:38 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus | It made up about 6 words of my post, ever since that’s all you have spoken about. So what do you disagree with? |
It had no reason to be in your initial post whatsoever and it totally derailed whatever points you had to say afterwards. That’s like me making a several paragraph post and beginning by calling you a former meth addict and then getting annoyed when that’s all you focus on! |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:42 - Nov 25 with 916 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:41 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | It had no reason to be in your initial post whatsoever and it totally derailed whatever points you had to say afterwards. That’s like me making a several paragraph post and beginning by calling you a former meth addict and then getting annoyed when that’s all you focus on! |
It only derailed it because you have obsessed about it ever since. Feel free to call me a former meth addict if you want, I won’t be obsessing over it that’s for sure because I know it’s not true and am sure most others will know that too. So it would be more funny than annoying. So which point did you say you disagreed with? |  |
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| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:44 - Nov 25 with 915 views | YouBackJastard |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:42 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus | It only derailed it because you have obsessed about it ever since. Feel free to call me a former meth addict if you want, I won’t be obsessing over it that’s for sure because I know it’s not true and am sure most others will know that too. So it would be more funny than annoying. So which point did you say you disagreed with? |
You are a deeply stupid person. |  | |  |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:47 - Nov 25 with 912 views | onehunglow |
| Piroe's goal against Blackpool on 10:44 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard | You are a deeply stupid person. |
No,He has a different standpoint.People not seeing that are as you describe P is a great read |  |
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