| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? 00:13 - Feb 20 with 5814 views | Plankton |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 18:19 - Feb 20 with 1330 views | Wingstandwood |
From Michael Laudrup to Bob Bradely and having Neath caretaker manger KOL coaching in the PL? You can see where we went wrong, hey! People at the very top really lost the plot!
F-ing surreal!
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 18:26 - Feb 20 with 1318 views | shingle |
Two very poor managers for us no doubt about that but at least Bradley had success previously in his career whilst Martin has achieved nothing during his. | | | |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 20:18 - Feb 20 with 1267 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 18:19 - Feb 20 by Wingstandwood |
From Michael Laudrup to Bob Bradely and having Neath caretaker manger KOL coaching in the PL? You can see where we went wrong, hey! People at the very top really lost the plot!
F-ing surreal!
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O'Leary is doing a good job in the u23 set up. Improving week on week. Football snobs on here like to run him down for some reason. |  |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 20:27 - Feb 20 with 1259 views | union_jack |
Bob Bradley’s problem was that he was American and came over every inch as a Ted Lasso. He just was never going to be taken seriously. |  |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 20:58 - Feb 20 with 1224 views | builthjack |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 18:26 - Feb 20 by shingle |
Two very poor managers for us no doubt about that but at least Bradley had success previously in his career whilst Martin has achieved nothing during his. |
Bradley was 58 when he joined us, Martin 35. So Bradley had 23 years start. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 08:07 - Feb 21 with 1179 views | SwaneeRiver |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 20:58 - Feb 20 by builthjack |
Bradley was 58 when he joined us, Martin 35. So Bradley had 23 years start. |
Fair point.
Plus the standard of teams that Bobbly coached ( apart from some while coaching the USA ?) were not of the same standard as the PL or the Championship
I think he would have been out of his depth in League Two, even with his "experience" | | | |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 08:36 - Feb 21 with 1170 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 18:19 - Feb 20 by Wingstandwood |
From Michael Laudrup to Bob Bradely and having Neath caretaker manger KOL coaching in the PL? You can see where we went wrong, hey! People at the very top really lost the plot!
F-ing surreal!
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Laudrup is extremely overrated, had some wonderful moments as we got the right squad together at the right time, but his league record was atrocious for us. He was a good Cup manager.
I would put Martinez and Brendan above Laudrup. |  |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 12:32 - Feb 21 with 1152 views | waynekerr55 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 20:27 - Feb 20 by union_jack |
Bob Bradley’s problem was that he was American and came over every inch as a Ted Lasso. He just was never going to be taken seriously. |
I think the fact that he tried to teach Leon how to pass with his instep told you all you need to know about his credentials |  |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 12:41 - Feb 21 with 1146 views | onehunglow |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 17:45 - Feb 20 by waynekerr55 |
As I remember outside that bar near St Pancras you still had fast hands😉 |
Lol. Wifey ould have told you that. I reckon I could knock Russ out over 3 rounds. He s got too many teeth andmydevasting left hook would floor him. It won't happen though as his minders would see me off. Rugby next weekend too. I'm ready.. Love from all | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 12:48 - Feb 21 with 1146 views | theloneranger |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 12:32 - Feb 21 by waynekerr55 |
I think the fact that he tried to teach Leon how to pass with his instep told you all you need to know about his credentials |
Who can forget Bradley mentioning ‘PKs’, and telling the players about ‘hitting the 18’ and ‘the upper 90’ 🙄😂 |  |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 16:53 - Feb 21 with 1104 views | STID2017 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 08:36 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Laudrup is extremely overrated, had some wonderful moments as we got the right squad together at the right time, but his league record was atrocious for us. He was a good Cup manager.
I would put Martinez and Brendan above Laudrup. |
Brendan's record was better in the EPL league than Laudrup's
Martinez only managed us at a lower level so impossible to judge how he would have done with us in the EPL. |  |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 17:03 - Feb 21 with 1097 views | onehunglow |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 12:48 - Feb 21 by theloneranger |
Who can forget Bradley mentioning ‘PKs’, and telling the players about ‘hitting the 18’ and ‘the upper 90’ 🙄😂 |
PKs FKs ,it matters not, grimes can’t | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:32 - Feb 21 with 1058 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 16:53 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Brendan's record was better in the EPL league than Laudrup's
Martinez only managed us at a lower level so impossible to judge how he would have done with us in the EPL. |
What has the EPL got to do with it?
I’d put Lampard above Joe Allen too. The fact Lampard never played for us in the Premier League is neither here nor there.
After the cup win, we won 8 of the next 35 league matches, losing 18. Awful for a side as talented as ours.
Martinez and Rodgers are better managers than Laudrup, there is a few more recent Swansea managers I would employ tomorrow over Laudrup too… | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:54 - Feb 21 with 1049 views | STID2017 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:32 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
What has the EPL got to do with it?
I’d put Lampard above Joe Allen too. The fact Lampard never played for us in the Premier League is neither here nor there.
After the cup win, we won 8 of the next 35 league matches, losing 18. Awful for a side as talented as ours.
Martinez and Rodgers are better managers than Laudrup, there is a few more recent Swansea managers I would employ tomorrow over Laudrup too… |
So using your logic then
Lee Trundle was better than Bob Latchford for Swans ?
Lee's strike rate was 53% where as Bob's was 40%
I know how much you love your stats to show much we have not progressed under Nartin.
Therefore based on those stats ( and the fact that in your Martinez v Laudrup argument the league doesn't matter ) then you will surely accept that Trunds was King whist Latchford was way behind ?
The fact that Latchford faced far superior opposition, as did Laudrup, matters not I guess in your equations ?
Cant have it both ways pal | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:58 - Feb 21 with 1046 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:54 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
So using your logic then
Lee Trundle was better than Bob Latchford for Swans ?
Lee's strike rate was 53% where as Bob's was 40%
I know how much you love your stats to show much we have not progressed under Nartin.
Therefore based on those stats ( and the fact that in your Martinez v Laudrup argument the league doesn't matter ) then you will surely accept that Trunds was King whist Latchford was way behind ?
The fact that Latchford faced far superior opposition, as did Laudrup, matters not I guess in your equations ?
Cant have it both ways pal |
No idea what you are talking about.
My logic is simply that Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup. Why do they have to have managed a particular team at the same level in order to say that? I think Messi is better than Marcus Rashford, am I not allowed to say that because Messi never played for Man Utd?
Martinez has had 7 seasons managing in the Premier League, Laudrup has had under 1.5. Martinez then went to Belgium one of the best international teams in the world, Laudrup went to the Middle East. Martinez is now mentioned among the favourites for jobs like Barcelona where as Laudrup isn’t even mentioned for Championship jobs.
Martinez has faced far better opposition as a manager, and for a much longer period of time than Laudrup, so your point is moot “pal”.
As you were. [Post edited 21 Feb 2022 23:09]
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:09 - Feb 21 with 1034 views | STID2017 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 22:58 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
No idea what you are talking about.
My logic is simply that Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup. Why do they have to have managed a particular team at the same level in order to say that? I think Messi is better than Marcus Rashford, am I not allowed to say that because Messi never played for Man Utd?
Martinez has had 7 seasons managing in the Premier League, Laudrup has had under 1.5. Martinez then went to Belgium one of the best international teams in the world, Laudrup went to the Middle East. Martinez is now mentioned among the favourites for jobs like Barcelona where as Laudrup isn’t even mentioned for Championship jobs.
Martinez has faced far better opposition as a manager, and for a much longer period of time than Laudrup, so your point is moot “pal”.
As you were. [Post edited 21 Feb 2022 23:09]
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Simple.
Your logic is comparing apples with grapes
No different to the zTrunds v Latchford comparison
Either you accept both are accurate or not
Cant have it both ways chum | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:14 - Feb 21 with 1030 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:09 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Simple.
Your logic is comparing apples with grapes
No different to the zTrunds v Latchford comparison
Either you accept both are accurate or not
Cant have it both ways chum |
How is it comparing apples to grapes?
I’m comparing manager to manager, who both managed in the Premier League. Martinez is (and was) better than Laudrup in my view.
What an utterly bizarre point of view you have to think such view cannot be made because they managed Swansea at different levels.
It has nothing to do with it in the slightest, champ. | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:20 - Feb 21 with 1018 views | STID2017 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:14 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
How is it comparing apples to grapes?
I’m comparing manager to manager, who both managed in the Premier League. Martinez is (and was) better than Laudrup in my view.
What an utterly bizarre point of view you have to think such view cannot be made because they managed Swansea at different levels.
It has nothing to do with it in the slightest, champ. |
Your earlier argument was along the lines of " it didn't matter which division Martinez had managed in compared to Laudrup, it was irrelevant "
So now you have changed your comparison to like with like, which is a whole different argument
BTW before you ask ( and as I have stated elsewhere) I am not going back to find the "evidence" to prove what you said.
Life is too short for that
Actually I have, for once as it was not that far back
EDIT - Actually your words were " What has the EPL got to do with it ?"
Yet above then the EPL is all important.
Strange that ..
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:24 - Feb 21 with 1014 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:20 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Your earlier argument was along the lines of " it didn't matter which division Martinez had managed in compared to Laudrup, it was irrelevant "
So now you have changed your comparison to like with like, which is a whole different argument
BTW before you ask ( and as I have stated elsewhere) I am not going back to find the "evidence" to prove what you said.
Life is too short for that
Actually I have, for once as it was not that far back
EDIT - Actually your words were " What has the EPL got to do with it ?"
Yet above then the EPL is all important.
Strange that ..
[Post edited 21 Feb 2022 23:24]
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You are either one of the biggest liars on this forum, or one of the most mentally challenged. Can’t decide which one yet.
My point earlier was that it doesn’t matter if they have managed a particular club at the same level in order to compare how good they are. Both have managed in the Premier League, we can compare. The fact they both didn’t manage Swansea at the same level is irrelevant.
I’m not sure what you are finding so difficult to understand.
I think Laudrup is a worse manager than Martinez. Nothing has changed from post 1 to now, except me dismantling your silly view that you can’t compare anyone unless they managed the same club at the same level.
Ta
Oh and I’ll do the donkey work for you to show you lying (again).
As you can see, not once did I say what level they manage at is irrelevant. I said you don’t have to manage A PARTICULAR TEAM AT THE SAME LEVEL.
Massive difference.
As you were. [Post edited 21 Feb 2022 23:27]
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:34 - Feb 21 with 1007 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:28 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
And there we have it
Stooping to calling into question my mental state.
The sign that you are losing the argument and haven't got the guts to climb down but instead lashes out
You cannot say one minute the EPL doesn't matter then the next breath it does ?
Why not just admit you are wrong ? |
Mental state or your propensity to lie, I didn’t decide on which one. I’m leaning towards your propensity to lie.
I didn’t say the EPL doesn’t matter. You said we can’t compare because Martinez didn’t manage US in the EPL, I questioned why that mattered.
You then went on to make some silly point about Latchford and Trundle.
Before me informing you that Martinez has managed in the Premier League for about 4 times as long as Laudrup.
You are now throwing your toys out of the pram (again) after realising you jumped in too quick again without reading and understanding the post.
Silly. | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:45 - Feb 21 with 996 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:39 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Check Feb 21st 22.32 or thereabouts for where you originally said what has the Epl got to do with it
You may have changed your stance later but that was your original statement
Any argument after that is superfluous |
Yes in response to you saying “you can’t say that as they both haven’t managed us in the EPL”.
It was a pretty obvious response, I’m amazed how it has confused you so much.
No stance has been changed, I think Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup. The rest is you crying about it because you thought I said “best manager for Swansea”.
Sorry champ, you lose again. | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:53 - Feb 21 with 987 views | STID2017 |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:45 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes in response to you saying “you can’t say that as they both haven’t managed us in the EPL”.
It was a pretty obvious response, I’m amazed how it has confused you so much.
No stance has been changed, I think Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup. The rest is you crying about it because you thought I said “best manager for Swansea”.
Sorry champ, you lose again. |
Only loss is your mind chump.
Hey ho though you carry on and believe what you wish
Shame that you cannot even admit you are wrong
Maybe even just this once ?
No tears being shed her pal.
Big ugly world out there
This is just a football forum.
Nothing here worth getting upset about or questioning someone's mental stability.
Not a nice thing to that pal | |
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| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:56 - Feb 21 with 984 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Russell Martin worse than Brad Bobley? on 23:53 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Only loss is your mind chump.
Hey ho though you carry on and believe what you wish
Shame that you cannot even admit you are wrong
Maybe even just this once ?
No tears being shed her pal.
Big ugly world out there
This is just a football forum.
Nothing here worth getting upset about or questioning someone's mental stability.
Not a nice thing to that pal |
Of course I won’t admit being wrong when I’m clearly resoundingly right, I don’t even know what you are claiming I’m wrong about, I don’t even think you know.
- I think Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup.
- You said they need to have both managed Swansea in the Premier League to say that.
- I asked why it mattered.
- You brought up some nonsense about Trundle and Latchford
- I realised you made an error and thought I said best Swansea manager
- I informed you both had managed at the same level, unlike your example
The rest has been your tears flowing because you are losing yet another debate with your hero.
Dry those eyes, champ  | |
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