| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? 20:10 - Mar 7 with 3433 views | KeithHaynes |
As it stands, it would be interesting to know. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 11:22 - Mar 9 with 866 views | nantywatcher |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 07:15 - Mar 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
To resort to defensive short passing when down to 10 men was extremely naive. They were already pressing, and to do it with one less option to pass to was bordering on ridiculous.
No surprise they capitalised within 30 seconds, they probably couldn’t believe their luck. |
We have a manager who is completely out of his depth. For the 6/7 minutes after the sending off we comfortably held our own. So what does Martin do? He takes off Ntcham and replaces him with Bennett - I was gobsmacked - Marco Silva must have thought Christmas had come early! Then within a few seconds his mate - Fish -- gift wraps them a goal and we are dead in the water with not even a minute gone. I cannot possibly see how Martin still gets support when he does not even grasp the very basics of the game. |  | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 12:35 - Mar 9 with 830 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 11:22 - Mar 9 by nantywatcher |
We have a manager who is completely out of his depth. For the 6/7 minutes after the sending off we comfortably held our own. So what does Martin do? He takes off Ntcham and replaces him with Bennett - I was gobsmacked - Marco Silva must have thought Christmas had come early! Then within a few seconds his mate - Fish -- gift wraps them a goal and we are dead in the water with not even a minute gone. I cannot possibly see how Martin still gets support when he does not even grasp the very basics of the game. |
Bennet should not play for us again, why would the most experienced player in our squad play the ball back to the keeper after 5 secs? He was very poor last night.
I want RM to stay as he has us playing good football with some average players and he deserves another season the players all enjoy playong for him even Obafemi. Ive said it before on here a few more pacy defenders and we will be a lot different next season. |  | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 12:45 - Mar 9 with 807 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 12:35 - Mar 9 by krunchykarrot |
Bennet should not play for us again, why would the most experienced player in our squad play the ball back to the keeper after 5 secs? He was very poor last night.
I want RM to stay as he has us playing good football with some average players and he deserves another season the players all enjoy playong for him even Obafemi. Ive said it before on here a few more pacy defenders and we will be a lot different next season. |
You say you want Martin to stay.
However,consider of you will his activity in the recent window where he brought in two players,one injured and the other a young defender.Why was this lad not picked last night. He is miles quicker,more skillful and is hungry to play.
I like Bennett when he came to us but his form has tailed off remarkably . | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 13:41 - Mar 9 with 792 views | angryjack |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:10 - Mar 9 by onehunglow |
And something that should have been emphasised at half time
Martin is arrogance personified and ,as I keep saying,he is taking us one way-downwards.
He is clever though and manipulative especially with Press and Fans.
Think I 'll leave it there-for now. |
F@ck him off.. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 13:44 - Mar 9 with 775 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 13:41 - Mar 9 by angryjack |
F@ck him off.. |
I wouldn't be upset people by stating the obvious in that manner but yes  | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 14:01 - Mar 9 with 770 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 13:41 - Mar 9 by angryjack |
F@ck him off.. |
Why, give me a solid footballing reason and if youre correct who are you going to replace him with. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 14:19 - Mar 9 with 761 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 12:45 - Mar 9 by onehunglow |
You say you want Martin to stay.
However,consider of you will his activity in the recent window where he brought in two players,one injured and the other a young defender.Why was this lad not picked last night. He is miles quicker,more skillful and is hungry to play.
I like Bennett when he came to us but his form has tailed off remarkably . |
Cannot argue im a firm believer in giving players a fair crack which in my opinion is what makes a manager earn their money. Take the young Liverpool lad it was obvious he was struggling physically and i can honestly say RM should never have let him play, but i appreciate the fact he sees him everyday in training and trust him to do right by our club. Protection might have been at the forefront of thinking, he is a big unit Mitro as Downes can testify.
As for Bennet and Pato who was useless second half and possibly a few others their days are numbered at this club in this system and under this manager.
The thing is i agree with you on some of your points on this board but feel you jumped on top of this manager and possibly the Gk so early in their SCFC carreers that you try and justify with negativity, Fisher could be heard calling last night and Ben acknowledged also nobody has mentioned the appalling performence of Bennet? | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 15:41 - Mar 9 with 726 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 14:19 - Mar 9 by krunchykarrot |
Cannot argue im a firm believer in giving players a fair crack which in my opinion is what makes a manager earn their money. Take the young Liverpool lad it was obvious he was struggling physically and i can honestly say RM should never have let him play, but i appreciate the fact he sees him everyday in training and trust him to do right by our club. Protection might have been at the forefront of thinking, he is a big unit Mitro as Downes can testify.
As for Bennet and Pato who was useless second half and possibly a few others their days are numbered at this club in this system and under this manager.
The thing is i agree with you on some of your points on this board but feel you jumped on top of this manager and possibly the Gk so early in their SCFC carreers that you try and justify with negativity, Fisher could be heard calling last night and Ben acknowledged also nobody has mentioned the appalling performence of Bennet? |
That s a decent response the like ofwhich I appreciate . Yiu re a poster to treasure for sure.
To me,it looks like Fisher controls nothing
If he called then it shows the faith in him with Cabango booting it clear
Bennett is a busted flush but he might have been destroyed being deployed as a right back . That is Martin .
Right now,we are seeing some personal sheet on here with some fans at each other’s throats . It’s a good sign really as it shows they have passion, problem is that it is misdirected . The anger we all feel should be aimed where it is deserved .on the pitch . It always happens. Fans are scared but won’t admit it publically .Martin has shown nothing to justify the faith . Nothing . | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 15:42 - Mar 9 with 730 views | Brynmill_Jack |
In answer to the thread title - onehunglow?? |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 16:27 - Mar 9 with 710 views | QJumpingJack |
going back to the original question.
one reason - if Russell falls out with any of the following - owner/board of directors/Mark Allen eg if there is a disagreement over strategy and development. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:34 - Mar 9 with 664 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 15:42 - Mar 9 by Brynmill_Jack |
In answer to the thread title - onehunglow?? |
Sorry Steve.
You confused over summat
Reasons to be Cheerful. Part 3 | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:43 - Mar 9 with 659 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 15:41 - Mar 9 by onehunglow |
That s a decent response the like ofwhich I appreciate . Yiu re a poster to treasure for sure.
To me,it looks like Fisher controls nothing
If he called then it shows the faith in him with Cabango booting it clear
Bennett is a busted flush but he might have been destroyed being deployed as a right back . That is Martin .
Right now,we are seeing some personal sheet on here with some fans at each other’s throats . It’s a good sign really as it shows they have passion, problem is that it is misdirected . The anger we all feel should be aimed where it is deserved .on the pitch . It always happens. Fans are scared but won’t admit it publically .Martin has shown nothing to justify the faith . Nothing . |
I try and say it as it is i post honestly unless ive been on the Guiness that is, i played and coached a bit a long time ago and know how hard it can be.
Fisher shouldnt have had that back pass which he messed but last Sat pinged it around superbly. Posters who say RM is wrong in playing players like Ben at FB have a valued point but now that we are safe lets see what develops.
OHL "Martin has shown nothing to justify the faith . Nothing ." this is where i fundamentlly disagree. RM has stuck to his system and SOME players have started to adapt and get it others will leave. This system when played with any sort of pace cannot be defended against and if lucky enough with injuries etc to get promoted will give you a chance of staying a while. I have seen a big improvement in the pace with last Sat games first goal a good example, last nights first half was very good with Ben doing well and Downes bullying until he bounced of Mitrovic, trust me RM is doing ok making mistakes yes but all players really enjoy playing this way.
PS Courtois just made a big mistake Mbappe near post. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:10 - Mar 9 with 628 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:43 - Mar 9 by krunchykarrot |
I try and say it as it is i post honestly unless ive been on the Guiness that is, i played and coached a bit a long time ago and know how hard it can be.
Fisher shouldnt have had that back pass which he messed but last Sat pinged it around superbly. Posters who say RM is wrong in playing players like Ben at FB have a valued point but now that we are safe lets see what develops.
OHL "Martin has shown nothing to justify the faith . Nothing ." this is where i fundamentlly disagree. RM has stuck to his system and SOME players have started to adapt and get it others will leave. This system when played with any sort of pace cannot be defended against and if lucky enough with injuries etc to get promoted will give you a chance of staying a while. I have seen a big improvement in the pace with last Sat games first goal a good example, last nights first half was very good with Ben doing well and Downes bullying until he bounced of Mitrovic, trust me RM is doing ok making mistakes yes but all players really enjoy playing this way.
PS Courtois just made a big mistake Mbappe near post. |
Thanks
A terrific reply .
I take on board what you say;I simply do not dee it as you do and by that I am not discounting nor disrespecting your experience.
My view is that in all team games tactics have to be changed;you cannot simply stay the same.
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:24 - Mar 9 with 610 views | AndyCole |
Last night's capitulation under pressure by Martin is another reason. Reverting to the losing Plan A kamikaze short game, deep in our half was unthinking desperation. A classic sign of weakness and insecurity, looking for the comfort blanket of his preferred, losing brand.
Strong leadership demands Thinking Clearly Under Pressure (TCUP, as coined by Sir Clive). Martin caved, the histrionics and deserved yellow card was his way at lashing out at his own shortcomings. Deflecting.
We can blame the ref. Or we can look at Martin's flaws as leader and manager. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:28 - Mar 9 with 607 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:10 - Mar 9 by onehunglow |
Thanks
A terrific reply .
I take on board what you say;I simply do not dee it as you do and by that I am not discounting nor disrespecting your experience.
My view is that in all team games tactics have to be changed;you cannot simply stay the same.
But a classy reply |
"My view is that in all team games tactics have to be changed;you cannot simply stay the same".
Do you know the average IQ of a footballer? Some footballing genius said something on the lines off "if we have the ball they cant score!
Teams do change formation i agree a good recent example is the Manchester derby last weekend one team changed and changed formation because they couldnt get near perfect football. I know they are some of the best players in the world but one or two touch football is a nightmare to defend no matter what level.
Never thought there was any disrespect intended, discussion is good as long as it is reasonable?
Now didnt you say you want Rafa Benitez as our new manager?!!!!!!!!! | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:38 - Mar 9 with 603 views | krunchykarrot |
OHL yes i did just hear Hoddle about PSG defence and yes i mnow they scored 2mins later. But im not allergic to hoofing into rowz. And PSG have just done a SCFC 10secs later WTF Im not arguing about football ever again Hoddle reckons the best players in the world have capitulated what do i know eh? | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:07 - Mar 10 with 544 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:43 - Mar 9 by krunchykarrot |
I try and say it as it is i post honestly unless ive been on the Guiness that is, i played and coached a bit a long time ago and know how hard it can be.
Fisher shouldnt have had that back pass which he messed but last Sat pinged it around superbly. Posters who say RM is wrong in playing players like Ben at FB have a valued point but now that we are safe lets see what develops.
OHL "Martin has shown nothing to justify the faith . Nothing ." this is where i fundamentlly disagree. RM has stuck to his system and SOME players have started to adapt and get it others will leave. This system when played with any sort of pace cannot be defended against and if lucky enough with injuries etc to get promoted will give you a chance of staying a while. I have seen a big improvement in the pace with last Sat games first goal a good example, last nights first half was very good with Ben doing well and Downes bullying until he bounced of Mitrovic, trust me RM is doing ok making mistakes yes but all players really enjoy playing this way.
PS Courtois just made a big mistake Mbappe near post. |
Seen it .
Shows how mad it is to play like this.
PSG chucked game away
Goalkeepers should not assume they can dribble past a skilled forward. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:19 - Mar 10 with 532 views | Best_loser |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 16:27 - Mar 9 by QJumpingJack |
going back to the original question.
one reason - if Russell falls out with any of the following - owner/board of directors/Mark Allen eg if there is a disagreement over strategy and development. |
Yes, a very common reason why a lot of managers quit , a simple clash of personalities , a different reason is usually given , not the truth |  | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:29 - Mar 10 with 521 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:28 - Mar 9 by krunchykarrot |
"My view is that in all team games tactics have to be changed;you cannot simply stay the same".
Do you know the average IQ of a footballer? Some footballing genius said something on the lines off "if we have the ball they cant score!
Teams do change formation i agree a good recent example is the Manchester derby last weekend one team changed and changed formation because they couldnt get near perfect football. I know they are some of the best players in the world but one or two touch football is a nightmare to defend no matter what level.
Never thought there was any disrespect intended, discussion is good as long as it is reasonable?
Now didnt you say you want Rafa Benitez as our new manager?!!!!!!!!! |
I also said I 'd want carnal knowledge of Diane Abbott . | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 13:53 - Mar 10 with 477 views | krunchykarrot |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:07 - Mar 10 by onehunglow |
Seen it .
Shows how mad it is to play like this.
PSG chucked game away
Goalkeepers should not assume they can dribble past a skilled forward. |
All players and managers make mistakes, i just think playing the possesion way is better to watch, the thing is GK will make errors in this system along with the CH etc it all comes down to one thing game management.
This is where we agree, row Z and rolling around like Harry Wilson to waste time walking about as if youre pulling the big roller when youre down to 10 is acceptable ut when you CH and most experienced player hesitates and plays a ball back from ko is as much to blame as the GK.
As you and some others have stated on here we need a balance and players taking resposibility, i think the hard part has been put accross and with a few pacy additions i hope we can witness on field bollickings for hoofing possesion away when we need it. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:31 - Mar 10 with 414 views | AndyCole |
Another reason is that Farke may be available.
A pragmatic, no nonsense respected manager who plays on the front foot and knows how to get promoted, sweating his assets with an assured finesse. Calm, collected and dignified. Unlike Martin and his puerile histrionics.
We so deserve someone like Farke, not some self centred PR-machine hissy-fit chancer like Martin, confined to bottom quartile achievement. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:42 - Mar 10 with 405 views | STID2017 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:31 - Mar 10 by AndyCole |
Another reason is that Farke may be available.
A pragmatic, no nonsense respected manager who plays on the front foot and knows how to get promoted, sweating his assets with an assured finesse. Calm, collected and dignified. Unlike Martin and his puerile histrionics.
We so deserve someone like Farke, not some self centred PR-machine hissy-fit chancer like Martin, confined to bottom quartile achievement. |
Another load of nonsense from you.
Lots of managers " may be available "
The only reason Martin will leave his post in the near future is if he gets offered another post.
Based on your contast lambasting of him, that makes him so bad that no club will swoop in for him. So if your opinion of him is right then he is going nowhere.
So your dream of Farke or any other manager coming in to replace him in the near future isn't going to happen.
Stop knocking him and get behind the manager and the team.
You and OHL banging the same Martin out drum is so tiresome ? |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:26 - Mar 10 with 396 views | AndyCole |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:42 - Mar 10 by STID2017 |
Another load of nonsense from you.
Lots of managers " may be available "
The only reason Martin will leave his post in the near future is if he gets offered another post.
Based on your contast lambasting of him, that makes him so bad that no club will swoop in for him. So if your opinion of him is right then he is going nowhere.
So your dream of Farke or any other manager coming in to replace him in the near future isn't going to happen.
Stop knocking him and get behind the manager and the team.
You and OHL banging the same Martin out drum is so tiresome ? |
Clearly a fraud of a 'STID'.
Any self respecting poster with such a username would always be looking at ways in which The Swans can improve.
Not 'simply' accepting of stuff like twps do.
A proper 'STID' would be incensed at the seismic drop in performances and league position versus the past two terms. Catastrophic, especially when one considers the massive relative investment in brand Martin.
Get a grip. Get yer head up and critically review the debacle that's been unfolding this term. Instead of always lashing out at posters who are able to See, and not simply 'Look' eyes wide shut, as per the happy clapping sheeple like you.
Why on earth would any thinking Swans fan simply get behind this manager as you suggest ? The twps like you are precisely what chancers like Martin depend upon. Happily clapping whilst languishing in 16th, with now the prospect of even Crapdiff leapfrogging us. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:49 - Mar 10 with 386 views | STID2017 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:26 - Mar 10 by AndyCole |
Clearly a fraud of a 'STID'.
Any self respecting poster with such a username would always be looking at ways in which The Swans can improve.
Not 'simply' accepting of stuff like twps do.
A proper 'STID' would be incensed at the seismic drop in performances and league position versus the past two terms. Catastrophic, especially when one considers the massive relative investment in brand Martin.
Get a grip. Get yer head up and critically review the debacle that's been unfolding this term. Instead of always lashing out at posters who are able to See, and not simply 'Look' eyes wide shut, as per the happy clapping sheeple like you.
Why on earth would any thinking Swans fan simply get behind this manager as you suggest ? The twps like you are precisely what chancers like Martin depend upon. Happily clapping whilst languishing in 16th, with now the prospect of even Crapdiff leapfrogging us. |
Erm it is called supporting your team.
As 2,000 of us will do on Saturday.
Will you be there?
I don't expect so.
The very essence of STID is to mean supporting the team through life.
Like many, I have seem many more bad and mediocre times than good times.
However the measure of a true supporter is following the team through thick and thin.
If you honestly believe what we are seeing now is the "thin" then you haven't followed us very long.
Also can you explain your username?
Dont recall Andy Cole playing for Swans ?
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 00:09 - Mar 11 with 380 views | AndyCole |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:49 - Mar 10 by STID2017 |
Erm it is called supporting your team.
As 2,000 of us will do on Saturday.
Will you be there?
I don't expect so.
The very essence of STID is to mean supporting the team through life.
Like many, I have seem many more bad and mediocre times than good times.
However the measure of a true supporter is following the team through thick and thin.
If you honestly believe what we are seeing now is the "thin" then you haven't followed us very long.
Also can you explain your username?
Dont recall Andy Cole playing for Swans ?
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Supporting the team is one thing, supporting an inept manager is another.
You say : always support the manager. Ballux.
Only a handful of the rational thinkers did just that the past two terms when we were playing winning, effective and efficient football. The bile and vitriol hurled at our winning manager was beyond disgusting. A few of us were steadfast in our support throughout.
This term, despite us languishing in 16th, the same twps that were slagging off our winning ways are now slagging off our proper fans who are critical of our underperforming manager.
It's a bonkers inexplicable mentality of the twp. | |
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