| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City 12:15 - May 11 with 3313 views | SwansIndependent |
 Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City 11th May 2022 12:12Swansea City will already know that Joe Allen is today having new contract talks with his club Stoke City. Already officially endorsed as a big plus for the current swans squad by Russell Martin recently it seems that the potters are looking at retaining him. Or attempting to.  0
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:20 - May 12 with 1021 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:00 - May 12 by STID2017 |
Please let it go Res.
Repeating the old "What Allen did next" saga is pointless.
Regarding his current situation at Stoke, it apparently was Stoke who announced in March they were releasing him ?
If they have had a change of heart and are offering him a new deal, that is their prerogative, as he is still technically their player until his contract runs out ?
No one's to blame though.
Just up to Allen to decide where he wants to finish his career |
Joe loves Swansea so much he signed for Stoke TWICE and about to make THREE times. Loves Swansea he does. [Post edited 12 May 2022 13:20]
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:39 - May 12 with 1004 views | PawelAbbott |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:20 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joe loves Swansea so much he signed for Stoke TWICE and about to make THREE times. Loves Swansea he does. [Post edited 12 May 2022 13:20]
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Wants to see out his career at his local club!!!
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:04 - May 12 with 984 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:20 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joe loves Swansea so much he signed for Stoke TWICE and about to make THREE times. Loves Swansea he does. [Post edited 12 May 2022 13:20]
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Not sure whether there is any indication he is about to commit to Stoke or that they will offer him a new contract ?
I may be wrong (often am )
Money talks though ... cannot see us topping any Stoke offer |  |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:26 - May 12 with 971 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:04 - May 12 by STID2017 |
Not sure whether there is any indication he is about to commit to Stoke or that they will offer him a new contract ?
I may be wrong (often am )
Money talks though ... cannot see us topping any Stoke offer |
Stoke city act fast and loose with the purse strings and outbid Swansea for many players. (Reportedly) Tom Ince, Allen, Surridge, Ryan Woods, Wilmott, Oakley Booth. etc. The Bet 365 family are out of pocket to the tune of £180m and generally done no better than Swansea over the last 10 years being relegated at the same time. | |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:31 - May 12 with 969 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:26 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Stoke city act fast and loose with the purse strings and outbid Swansea for many players. (Reportedly) Tom Ince, Allen, Surridge, Ryan Woods, Wilmott, Oakley Booth. etc. The Bet 365 family are out of pocket to the tune of £180m and generally done no better than Swansea over the last 10 years being relegated at the same time. |
Agree.
Joe Allen may care about that.
However if he is looking for his last big payday (and I don't blame him) then if Stoke offer it he will take it. | |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:50 - May 12 with 956 views | Chief |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 13:20 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joe loves Swansea so much he signed for Stoke TWICE and about to make THREE times. Loves Swansea he does. [Post edited 12 May 2022 13:20]
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Hold on now, what you mean is he signed for Stoke from Liverpool because Liverpool accepted their higher offer which we weren't willing to match.
He's subsequently signed a contract extension, but at that time was there any indication at all that Stoke would sell to us or that we'd pay a fee for him?
Or are you making things up again? |  |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 15:25 - May 12 with 921 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 14:50 - May 12 by Chief |
Hold on now, what you mean is he signed for Stoke from Liverpool because Liverpool accepted their higher offer which we weren't willing to match.
He's subsequently signed a contract extension, but at that time was there any indication at all that Stoke would sell to us or that we'd pay a fee for him?
Or are you making things up again? |
Joey was not obligated to go to Stoke. It was his choice. He had a year on his contract at one of the biggest teams in England. They bid for him. So what? He is a free man and goes where he wants to go. He wanted to go to Stoke not Swansea not Southampton. Slavery ended in the UK 1 August 1834.
I realise it is painful. [Post edited 12 May 2022 15:25]
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 15:33 - May 12 with 914 views | Chief |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 15:25 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joey was not obligated to go to Stoke. It was his choice. He had a year on his contract at one of the biggest teams in England. They bid for him. So what? He is a free man and goes where he wants to go. He wanted to go to Stoke not Swansea not Southampton. Slavery ended in the UK 1 August 1834.
I realise it is painful. [Post edited 12 May 2022 15:25]
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No of course not, just as Liverpool aren't obligated to accept lower offers because a player has expressed an interest in going there.
No if he's under contract he isn't free to go where he wanted to go. Not unless he breaks his contract.
No I'm delighted slavery has ended, not painful at all. But while slavery ended, contractual obligations did not making this latest fantasy theory of yours all the more preposterous. | |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 17:21 - May 12 with 860 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 15:25 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joey was not obligated to go to Stoke. It was his choice. He had a year on his contract at one of the biggest teams in England. They bid for him. So what? He is a free man and goes where he wants to go. He wanted to go to Stoke not Swansea not Southampton. Slavery ended in the UK 1 August 1834.
I realise it is painful. [Post edited 12 May 2022 15:25]
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Ask Joe himself and he'll tell you, Huw never made contact. |  | | |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 18:53 - May 12 with 816 views | Lorax |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 15:25 - May 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joey was not obligated to go to Stoke. It was his choice. He had a year on his contract at one of the biggest teams in England. They bid for him. So what? He is a free man and goes where he wants to go. He wanted to go to Stoke not Swansea not Southampton. Slavery ended in the UK 1 August 1834.
I realise it is painful. [Post edited 12 May 2022 15:25]
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Actually the story at the time was he would have loved to come home but Jenkins wouldn't pay the 8 million Liverpool wanted, then Joe had a great Euro 2016 and Stoke bid 13 million which we wouldn't or couldn't match. Joe's choice was Stoke or see out the year on his contract which probably meant hardly playing.
It was an epic blunder by Jenkins. | | | |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 18:54 - May 12 with 816 views | jack_lord |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 18:28 - May 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If Joey wanted to play for Swansea in 2016 or whenever he would have done so. He was the master of his own destiny. Joey voluntarily went to Stoke for £13m at the behest of Liverpool FC. There was an £8m deal on the table for him at Swansea with some money left in the deal to give Joey and nice package. It was not acceptable in August 2016 but would have been more appealing in January 2019. |
Swansea did not offer any money. The deal was done and any talk of it afterwards is just covering their 4rses.
Why don't you have a dig at the trust while you are at it. |  |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:15 - May 12 with 800 views | KeithHaynes |
I really do think people need to look at Joe’s actual words regards this. |  |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:21 - May 12 with 788 views | Lorax |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:15 - May 12 by KeithHaynes |
I really do think people need to look at Joe’s actual words regards this. |
Good idea, where are they? | | | |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:23 - May 12 with 783 views | KeithHaynes |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:21 - May 12 by Lorax |
Good idea, where are they? |
Should I give up 😂 ?
 The boy who left Swansea wants to return as the man for next season 8th May 2022 08:00This morning we review the latest information exclusively brokered by Ian Mitchelmore at Wales On Line yesterday evening. We also look at the player involved in that exclusive report, and just how Swansea City can manufacture a deal to bring him to the Swansea.com stadium next season. 0
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:50 - May 12 with 738 views | AguycalledJack |
From what I know, jenkins stalled and stalled, was warned joe was signing for stoke due to the delay, was warned the night before he signed, Huw didn’t believe he was signing for stoke, following day he signed. | | | |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:52 - May 12 with 735 views | KeithHaynes |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:50 - May 12 by AguycalledJack |
From what I know, jenkins stalled and stalled, was warned joe was signing for stoke due to the delay, was warned the night before he signed, Huw didn’t believe he was signing for stoke, following day he signed. |
He wanted to wait until the summer.
In January Joe’s stock was very low.
Then the euros and his improved form meant Jenkins made a mistake.
In the summer he was gold. | |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:57 - May 12 with 729 views | Chief |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 19:52 - May 12 by KeithHaynes |
He wanted to wait until the summer.
In January Joe’s stock was very low.
Then the euros and his improved form meant Jenkins made a mistake.
In the summer he was gold. |
Exactly.
And if you look at the timeline, we'd already signed Leroy Fer on a permanent fee about a fortnight before, so we weren't going to to sign both that summer.
So that blows out of the water any boolocks about 'sitting tight'. | |
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 20:23 - May 12 with 698 views | AndyCole |
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'Go get him Huw.....' (as we say in these local parts, to this day).
Player Manager, with Angel his #2, Leon leading the coaching set-up, inculcating The proper Swansea Way - in SO many ways.
Angel sourcing the next Angels from the lower echelons of Espana and the welsh valleys.
Our very own Field of Dreams: build it, and they will come - from Espana, the Welsh valleys, our Academy and beyond - all on a shoestring - The Swansea Way.
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| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 23:06 - May 12 with 623 views | PawelAbbott |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 20:23 - May 12 by AndyCole |
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'Go get him Huw.....' (as we say in these local parts, to this day).
Player Manager, with Angel his #2, Leon leading the coaching set-up, inculcating The proper Swansea Way - in SO many ways.
Angel sourcing the next Angels from the lower echelons of Espana and the welsh valleys.
Our very own Field of Dreams: build it, and they will come - from Espana, the Welsh valleys, our Academy and beyond - all on a shoestring - The Swansea Way.
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I think you'll find that Brexit put pay to us trawling the lower Spanish leagues. They won't get a work visa. | | | |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 00:23 - May 13 with 595 views | AndyCole |
| Joe Allen still not released by Stoke City on 23:06 - May 12 by PawelAbbott |
I think you'll find that Brexit put pay to us trawling the lower Spanish leagues. They won't get a work visa. |
You're right, twas just a fanciful dream, in a field.
However the main point still stands - the right people (as proposed) sourcing the right candidates for the right model, right now.
Joey has that bright-eyed, heads-up footballing intelligence - which I believe he can replicate in the managerial capacity - and has the authentic media presence to make it work. The antithesis of Martin, in lots of ways. Jus the tonic to fix the fractured following on the terraces/forums. | |
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Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
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