| Shooting of a nine year old girl 09:20 - Aug 23 with 6960 views | raynor94 |
Overnight, truly shocking, shootings and stabbings are becoming a daily occurrence throughout the Country |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:11 - Aug 24 with 1364 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:04 - Aug 24 by onehunglow |
It's because it is simple Builth.
We have to have complicated ,arcane laws so legal experts can explain it to us.
Drug possession cautions are risible,as is obvious
This is serious stuff and we have not yet come to terms with it. We havent in 60 years.
Legalise them all is a cop out. Nobody advocating it KNOWS what would transpire. |
Ok.
What’s your solution re a drug user. Homeless man addicted to heroin. What do you do ? |  | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:47 - Aug 24 with 1314 views | Flashberryjack |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:11 - Aug 24 by Sirjohnalot |
Ok.
What’s your solution re a drug user. Homeless man addicted to heroin. What do you do ? |
Chicken and the egg. |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:50 - Aug 24 with 1309 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:47 - Aug 24 by Flashberryjack |
Chicken and the egg. |
Exactly. Have to break the never ending circle | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 20:55 - Aug 24 with 1261 views | onehunglow |
Released
Continued crime
Was he rehabilitated? If not,why not?
It rather blows away the rehabilitating poor prisoner folk.
I d rather victims rehab myself. |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 20:59 - Aug 24 with 1260 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 20:55 - Aug 24 by onehunglow |
Released
Continued crime
Was he rehabilitated? If not,why not?
It rather blows away the rehabilitating poor prisoner folk.
I d rather victims rehab myself. |
Again, at this stage, there is nothing to suggest he was committing crime, he was the one that was shot | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 21:37 - Aug 24 with 1236 views | raynor94 |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 20:59 - Aug 24 by Sirjohnalot |
Again, at this stage, there is nothing to suggest he was committing crime, he was the one that was shot |
The convicted drug dealer, must have been out for a stroll at 10pm knowing he was breaching the terms of his licence conditions.
Ps sorry for being so cynical John | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 21:40 - Aug 24 with 1231 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 21:37 - Aug 24 by raynor94 |
The convicted drug dealer, must have been out for a stroll at 10pm knowing he was breaching the terms of his licence conditions.
Ps sorry for being so cynical John |
You’re probably right, but we don’t know, he may have been chased from his home. We’ve no idea, either way at this stage, he’s a crucial witness in naming this evil piece of scum. | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 07:36 - Aug 25 with 1148 views | trampie |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 21:40 - Aug 24 by Sirjohnalot |
You’re probably right, but we don’t know, he may have been chased from his home. We’ve no idea, either way at this stage, he’s a crucial witness in naming this evil piece of scum. |
Did you run the Scarfell Pike marathon on the weekend ? |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 08:58 - Aug 25 with 1134 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 07:36 - Aug 25 by trampie |
Did you run the Scarfell Pike marathon on the weekend ? |
Hi, no, was down in Neath for the weekend and travelled back up on Sunday | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:32 - Aug 25 with 1104 views | trampie |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 08:58 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
Hi, no, was down in Neath for the weekend and travelled back up on Sunday |
A Swansea harrier won in a time quicker than I could have run it on the flat.
A few had falls and came in a bit battered, the ladies were very impressive I thought. | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:06 - Aug 25 with 1089 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:32 - Aug 25 by trampie |
A Swansea harrier won in a time quicker than I could have run it on the flat.
A few had falls and came in a bit battered, the ladies were very impressive I thought. |
Will dm you to avoid messing up the thread | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 00:28 - Aug 26 with 996 views | Jack123 |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 19:04 - Aug 24 by onehunglow |
It's because it is simple Builth.
We have to have complicated ,arcane laws so legal experts can explain it to us.
Drug possession cautions are risible,as is obvious
This is serious stuff and we have not yet come to terms with it. We havent in 60 years.
Legalise them all is a cop out. Nobody advocating it KNOWS what would transpire. |
I agree with that, if people are still taking it when it's illegal, surely if we say it's now legal, it will only get worse?
Some people will think must be ok, because it's legal. It certainly is a cop out, it just says we have given up, and pointless policing that anymore. |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 06:22 - Aug 26 with 970 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 00:28 - Aug 26 by Jack123 |
I agree with that, if people are still taking it when it's illegal, surely if we say it's now legal, it will only get worse?
Some people will think must be ok, because it's legal. It certainly is a cop out, it just says we have given up, and pointless policing that anymore. |
What would you to win the war on drugs ? Simple question | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 08:33 - Aug 26 with 938 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 00:28 - Aug 26 by Jack123 |
I agree with that, if people are still taking it when it's illegal, surely if we say it's now legal, it will only get worse?
Some people will think must be ok, because it's legal. It certainly is a cop out, it just says we have given up, and pointless policing that anymore. |
If they legalised it I’d probably be off my tits every day. Never even considered it in my life before but if it was legal I’d definitely give it a go. |  |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:39 - Aug 26 with 925 views | onehunglow |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 06:22 - Aug 26 by Sirjohnalot |
What would you to win the war on drugs ? Simple question |
An even simpler quetion.
Do you believe all drug users WANT to come off it.
You are an idealist Jon, and the world is not meant for that.
I have to be careful regrading this thread as my son in law is involved in the situation now as the area has stepped up armed patrols. Bear in mind ,making people feel afe involvs the Police being armed. It 's a dirty world | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:41 - Aug 26 with 924 views | onehunglow |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 20:59 - Aug 24 by Sirjohnalot |
Again, at this stage, there is nothing to suggest he was committing crime, he was the one that was shot |
Jon
Come on,you're not getting away with that.
You know as well as I do,what is going on and the fact these attacks are seldom random;they are invariably targetted. It is territory. | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:58 - Aug 26 with 921 views | Jack123 |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 06:22 - Aug 26 by Sirjohnalot |
What would you to win the war on drugs ? Simple question |
Most probably, sterner sentences , death penalty to major players, and run of the mill drug dealers who at the moment are getting 3-4 years jail, they would get 30 plus years in jail.
It would never be decriminalise it. | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:07 - Aug 26 with 916 views | onehunglow |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:58 - Aug 26 by Jack123 |
Most probably, sterner sentences , death penalty to major players, and run of the mill drug dealers who at the moment are getting 3-4 years jail, they would get 30 plus years in jail.
It would never be decriminalise it. |
Nee is a convicted career criminal.It's what he does.Crime.Against you me and anyone else. He has made his way into people's home and traumatised them;driven at 125 mph + across two counties to escape from Police. He received 45 months He served half.
Now,I can guarantee that at that time of night,he won't be out taking the Dovecot evening air before settling down with a cup of Cocoa and watching Newsnight. When they are out ,they are a danger and ideally should be flushed down a sewer.Their lives are meaningles and they are so out of choice as crime for them is better paid than 40/50 hrs in a factory or selling trainers in Sport Direct.
He will not have ever contributed to this island by way of tax and contributed zero BUT he will have taken much starting with his usage of the NHS. He will have spawned others too whho carry on the chain | |
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| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:17 - Aug 26 with 911 views | controversial_jack |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:58 - Aug 26 by Jack123 |
Most probably, sterner sentences , death penalty to major players, and run of the mill drug dealers who at the moment are getting 3-4 years jail, they would get 30 plus years in jail.
It would never be decriminalise it. |
This is what Portugal has done. Contrast this to our and other countries like the US. Portugal being one of the poorest countries in Europe too.
It's like Finland curing their homeless problem. We need to move away from the old Victorian thinking if we want to find answers
https://www.theportugalnews.co | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:58 - Aug 26 with 884 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 09:39 - Aug 26 by onehunglow |
An even simpler quetion.
Do you believe all drug users WANT to come off it.
You are an idealist Jon, and the world is not meant for that.
I have to be careful regrading this thread as my son in law is involved in the situation now as the area has stepped up armed patrols. Bear in mind ,making people feel afe involvs the Police being armed. It 's a dirty world |
You don't answer the question. With respect I am not an idealist, the job I do, you see the reality.
Course not all all users want to come off, but that could be for a variety of reasons. Hopelessness, no access to help, being homeless, being addicted, everyone around them on drugs.
It's easy to deride things and criticise but you do not give a solution other than to lock everyone up or capital punishment. | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 11:00 - Aug 26 with 868 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:07 - Aug 26 by onehunglow |
Nee is a convicted career criminal.It's what he does.Crime.Against you me and anyone else. He has made his way into people's home and traumatised them;driven at 125 mph + across two counties to escape from Police. He received 45 months He served half.
Now,I can guarantee that at that time of night,he won't be out taking the Dovecot evening air before settling down with a cup of Cocoa and watching Newsnight. When they are out ,they are a danger and ideally should be flushed down a sewer.Their lives are meaningles and they are so out of choice as crime for them is better paid than 40/50 hrs in a factory or selling trainers in Sport Direct.
He will not have ever contributed to this island by way of tax and contributed zero BUT he will have taken much starting with his usage of the NHS. He will have spawned others too whho carry on the chain |
Once more, your solution is to lock everyone up for ever. How is this funded ? | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 12:04 - Aug 26 with 854 views | controversial_jack |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 10:58 - Aug 26 by Sirjohnalot |
You don't answer the question. With respect I am not an idealist, the job I do, you see the reality.
Course not all all users want to come off, but that could be for a variety of reasons. Hopelessness, no access to help, being homeless, being addicted, everyone around them on drugs.
It's easy to deride things and criticise but you do not give a solution other than to lock everyone up or capital punishment. |
There is always an underlying cause for drug addiction., It's not the substance that addicts. these conditions have to be addressed before the substance abuse can be removed, as you probably know | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 12:10 - Aug 26 with 854 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 11:00 - Aug 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Once more, your solution is to lock everyone up for ever. How is this funded ? |
Expensively.
That seems to have been the main improvement in Portugal (where you can't legally buy btw).
Treatment costs of users are far lower than just criminalising and locking up. | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 12:26 - Aug 26 with 835 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 12:10 - Aug 26 by Gwyn737 |
Expensively.
That seems to have been the main improvement in Portugal (where you can't legally buy btw).
Treatment costs of users are far lower than just criminalising and locking up. |
Indeed. Can you imagine the uproar in the Daily Mail if that was proposed ? 'Druggies given free treatment whilst hard working people's operations are delayed ' | | | |
| Shooting of a nine year old girl on 12:28 - Aug 26 with 834 views | onehunglow |
Well,let me put it this way.
Cost is the reason why you do not want criminals to be locked up for significant years.
I view justice and safety of the general public and its safety rather than looking after those who choose a criminal lifestyle.
If it costs,then it costs. The cost of losing a child is greater than any economic argument.
Never kid yourself crime is a chosen career and one than can reward handsomely .Do you honestly believe most career criminals are going to get their heads into a book,do exams and then do a job where they have to first of all get up in the morning.
People are so cheesed off with those more concerned about the criminal than the victim.
There are a plethora of schemes to "help" criminals and far fewer to help victims but there again,somebody who has been traumatised by intruders or had life savings conned out of them by a "non violent" fraudster,can never be rehabilitated.
I am heartingly ,genuinely sickened by all this concern for people who create chaos. | |
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