| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread 19:00 - Aug 28 with 15808 views | Sirjohnalot |
Don’t Neil for Alex on Wednesday night.
Its yet another new manager facing the Swans.
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 Swansea City earn a point when really it should have been three ( again ) 31st Aug 2022 22:19Regardless of what anyone says about yet another late late goal which deprived the swans of the honours it was a much better performance all round for Russell Martin’s Swansea City. However, yet again it signifies a lack of character in the Swansea defence which concedes goals late on as if it’s a given part of their game.  0
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:51 - Aug 31 with 1046 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:41 - Aug 31 by Badlands |
Not buying the better performance.
More direct but poor end product and very lucky at the back.
A point is a point but nothing learned from recent games. |
We were certainly more direct yes.
That always happens when you scale back possession and, pass count etc.
All the lowest of the season.
But if we are trying to make “Martinball” work, this has to be the worst performance we have seen under him?
52% possession
400 odd passes
78% completion
This is what I’m trying to get to the bottom of, what metric are we now using for performance analysis?
When Cooper produced those numbers it was dross. But now Martin does it and it’s much improved. It’s barmy.
Do we want heavy possession, high pass count football or not?
The reaction to this game is confusing. [Post edited 31 Aug 2022 23:03]
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:05 - Aug 31 with 1006 views | cadleigh |
Didn't see most of the game thanks to the same connection problems most posters seem to have experienced, but wasn't tonight's game evidence that we have more quality in the squad than the results so far would suggest? (Well done Cooper O, now can we see Cooper B and Williams D get a chance? And welcome back Joe Allen YJB)
Presumably we can all agree on that, regardless of whether we think the glass is half full, half empty or just think that it doesn't matter because nobody's going to change it any time soon? [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 9:18]
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 with 984 views | KeithHaynes |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:05 - Aug 31 by cadleigh |
Didn't see most of the game thanks to the same connection problems most posters seem to have experienced, but wasn't tonight's game evidence that we have more quality in the squad than the results so far would suggest? (Well done Cooper O, now can we see Cooper B and Williams D get a chance? And welcome back Joe Allen YJB)
Presumably we can all agree on that, regardless of whether we think the glass is half full, half empty or just think that it doesn't matter because nobody's going to change it any time soon? [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 9:18]
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For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:21 - Aug 31 with 949 views | Badlands |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 by KeithHaynes |
For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst. |
Yet another very late capitulation, Martin hasn’t learned.
Should be gone before the weekend. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:31 - Sep 1 with 869 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:05 - Aug 31 by onehunglow |
If Martin isnt going anywhere ,we are screwed.
You admitted you were losing faith
Getting behind the team should mean not allowing them to be ruined by a coach like Martin.
#SUPPORT THE TEAM.SUPPORT THE PLAYERS.
xxxxxx Martin |
Sad to see the same old rhetoric from you.
Clear as day Martin is going nowhere.
Just accept it, it will be less painful for you then. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:43 - Sep 1 with 868 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:48 - Aug 31 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
We had more possession, as is usual.
Yet the opposition managed to create twice as many dangerous attacks as us and attempt twice as many shots on goal.
It appears to be business as usual to me. Even down to the inability to sensibly see a game out. That wasn't their only big chance at the end of the match. |
49 / 51 is hardly the 70% we have got used to seeing.
Also they were the home side so you expect them to create more chances.
However for all their chances they had 4 on target, we had 5.
So hardly " business as usual " | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Sep 1 with 861 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:55 - Aug 31 by Dr_Parnassus |
That they had more scoring opportunities? Double in fact.
Strange way to agree with me. |
Home side creates more chances.
What a shock.
Shots on target count, they had 4 we had 5.
Give praise where it is due for once eh ? | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:50 - Sep 1 with 852 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
Home side creates more chances.
What a shock.
Shots on target count, they had 4 we had 5.
Give praise where it is due for once eh ? |
Praise for what exactly?
For not losing against a side in 16th? Jesus Christ man, this manager has sucked every last drop of ambition and pride out of this side that we feel we have to celebrate when we don’t lose.
1 win in 15 games STID. Let that sink in. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:52 - Sep 1 with 853 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:45 - Aug 31 by Dr_Parnassus |
Right? |
Do the math.
5 is more than 4, they can create as many as they like off target.
It is the one(s) on target that potentially hurt | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:54 - Sep 1 with 849 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:52 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
Do the math.
5 is more than 4, they can create as many as they like off target.
It is the one(s) on target that potentially hurt |
That’s an awful way to look at it.
Them not being able to finish they chances isn’t a thing to praise us for. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:56 - Sep 1 with 850 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:50 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
Praise for what exactly?
For not losing against a side in 16th? Jesus Christ man, this manager has sucked every last drop of ambition and pride out of this side that we feel we have to celebrate when we don’t lose.
1 win in 15 games STID. Let that sink in. |
If we are at home and the opposition create more on target chances you slag us off.
If we are away and we create more on target chances you slag us off.
RM and the team can't win with you | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 with 845 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:56 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
If we are at home and the opposition create more on target chances you slag us off.
If we are away and we create more on target chances you slag us off.
RM and the team can't win with you |
I don’t understand what point you are making.
Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.
Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.
I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.
That’s a thought aye? | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:01 - Sep 1 with 841 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:54 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
That’s an awful way to look at it.
Them not being able to finish they chances isn’t a thing to praise us for. |
It is the only way to look at it.
We created more on target chances than they did.
For all the stats that you love to quote, the only ones that count are shots on target and of course goals scored | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:03 - Sep 1 with 837 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t understand what point you are making.
Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.
Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.
I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.
That’s a thought aye? |
What a surprise.
Someone makes a point that goes against yours and you can't understand it ?
Perhaps pm Surjonalot and he can explain in simpler terms for you | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:04 - Sep 1 with 831 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t understand what point you are making.
Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.
Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.
I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.
That’s a thought aye? |
Possession was 49/51 - so what is 75% about?
Nos Da | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:05 - Sep 1 with 829 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:01 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
It is the only way to look at it.
We created more on target chances than they did.
For all the stats that you love to quote, the only ones that count are shots on target and of course goals scored |
It’s not the way to look at it at all, let alone the only way.
You don’t “create a chance on target”, you create a chance. What their strikers do with it is up to them, not us.
Goals scored are the only stats that count towards the actual result if you want to strip it back to such a basic level.
That was 1-1. Hardly something to be dancing in the streets about is it?
It’s another last minute capitulation. You should be furious. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 with 823 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:04 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
Possession was 49/51 - so what is 75% about?
Nos Da |
You were talking about me complaining before.
I’m explaining to you the situation. Hence the 75%.
Night pal. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 with 824 views | STID2017 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:05 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
It’s not the way to look at it at all, let alone the only way.
You don’t “create a chance on target”, you create a chance. What their strikers do with it is up to them, not us.
Goals scored are the only stats that count towards the actual result if you want to strip it back to such a basic level.
That was 1-1. Hardly something to be dancing in the streets about is it?
It’s another last minute capitulation. You should be furious. |
Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:08 - Sep 1 with 821 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:03 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
What a surprise.
Someone makes a point that goes against yours and you can't understand it ?
Perhaps pm Surjonalot and he can explain in simpler terms for you |
No, I don’t understand your point - nobody else’s.
You failed to explain it well enough. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:09 - Sep 1 with 818 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did |
Why expect a mauling? It’s Stoke not Real Madrid.
I didn’t expect a mauling at all. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:32 - Sep 1 with 810 views | Kerouac |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:49 - Aug 31 by lifelong |
Why don’t you post and praise the players when we are playing well and take the lead early in the game?
Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer. |
Why don’t you post and criticise the manager when we are playing crap and concede the points in injury time, again?
Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 06:56 - Sep 1 with 706 views | lifelong |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:32 - Sep 1 by Kerouac |
Why don’t you post and criticise the manager when we are playing crap and concede the points in injury time, again?
Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer. |
Have a look through this thread and you will find a criticism of the manager from me regarding our stupid goal kick tactic.
Have a look through his posts for the past 3 years and beyond and that’s all you’ll find is total crap and the odd smiley when the opposition score. |  | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 07:21 - Sep 1 with 677 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 by STID2017 |
Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did |
Genuine question - who was expecting a mauling looking at the side?
And if so was it because of how we play or because of the quality of the teams? |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 07:23 - Sep 1 with 674 views | PawelAbbott |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 by KeithHaynes |
For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst. |
Hopefully, he can turn into a butterfly and leave | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 08:19 - Sep 1 with 604 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 20:49 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Not for me OHL.
Sounds too much like the Boy Scouts tbh …. Dib dib 🇬🇧 |
They do a lot of good charitable work Killy and look after member's families .
Lot more open these days
Problem for me is the toasts to the Royals. | |
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