| Arguments vs discussions 08:56 - Aug 29 with 2805 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Is there a difference? For me there is a clear distinction.
Someone very recently asked some questions, upon receiving answers in return to those questions it was claimed it was then an argument.
So my question is when does a discussion become an argument?
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:01 - Aug 29 with 598 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Been there over a week now.
It’s been reported. Had threads about it. Even spoken to mods in threads about it.
It’s still there and he’s still posting. I’m just interested in why this is allowed, and is mocking the murder of a young woman acceptable fare?
In which case I’d love to have a look at the rules on here as they seem awfully selective in their application.
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:05 - Aug 29 with 589 views | Gwyn737 |
When does an argument/discussion become derailed? |  | | |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:06 - Aug 29 with 583 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:05 - Aug 29 by Gwyn737 |
When does an argument/discussion become derailed? |
When the OP decides I guess. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:06 - Aug 29 with 580 views | vetchonian |
| Arguments vs discussions on 13:57 - Aug 29 by onehunglow |
Im not arguing |
Not even up for discussion | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:08 - Aug 29 with 578 views | magicdaps10 |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:01 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Been there over a week now.
It’s been reported. Had threads about it. Even spoken to mods in threads about it.
It’s still there and he’s still posting. I’m just interested in why this is allowed, and is mocking the murder of a young woman acceptable fare?
In which case I’d love to have a look at the rules on here as they seem awfully selective in their application.
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Again, it's quite simple...... DM them and there is no excuse for a answer from them.
By doing a screenshot and bringing it up then you run the risk of creating another shiite storm on here.
If you want answers, DM them........its simple. |  |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:08 - Aug 29 with 577 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Anyway, back to the point at hand.
Can someone tell me why this is being ignored by Boundy?
Is it that he is a protected poster? Or that what he is doing is acceptable?
The answer to that could then shape what is and isn’t allowed on here, which will then affect how arguments and discussions are conducted.
(It’s all linked Gwyn)  | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:09 - Aug 29 with 572 views | KeithHaynes |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:08 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Anyway, back to the point at hand.
Can someone tell me why this is being ignored by Boundy?
Is it that he is a protected poster? Or that what he is doing is acceptable?
The answer to that could then shape what is and isn’t allowed on here, which will then affect how arguments and discussions are conducted.
(It’s all linked Gwyn) |
Nobody is protected and the bans recently should tell you that. |  |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:10 - Aug 29 with 567 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:08 - Aug 29 by magicdaps10 |
Again, it's quite simple...... DM them and there is no excuse for a answer from them.
By doing a screenshot and bringing it up then you run the risk of creating another shiite storm on here.
If you want answers, DM them........its simple. |
Same answer as the last time you made that silly suggestion.
If I private message them then the answer will be private.
It should be no big secret, I want open clarification on what is and isn’t acceptable. If you believe the mere sight of that comment could create a “shite storm” then that will tell you I’m absolutely justified in bringing it up in the open - it’s shocking.
As I told you on my last reply - think. [Post edited 29 Aug 2022 14:13]
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:12 - Aug 29 with 565 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:09 - Aug 29 by KeithHaynes |
Nobody is protected and the bans recently should tell you that. |
So why is he still posting is what I’m asking?
It’s one of the vilest things I’ve seen on here in probably 10 years. Mocking the death of someone’s daughter because he disagrees with her.
That post has been reported and has been for a week.
It was discussed about and brought up to SirJohn days ago and a screenshot provided to him. It’s still there. Boundy is still posting. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:16 - Aug 29 with 558 views | onehunglow |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:09 - Aug 29 by KeithHaynes |
Nobody is protected and the bans recently should tell you that. |
I just typed a riposte then quickly deleted so as not to upset you or NL.
This thread ,however,is absent of those who really are the main culprits who take up so much up of your time.
We have plenty of mart people who can really argue (or discuss)
Right now,my own discussion is with myself as to whether I can be bothered to watch any more games even on Tv so sickening a sight it is. I could argue that I watch every game and have done for 64 years starting at a time when only men went to games finished work at 1pm then caught the bus or walked to the game,smoked,wore caps,collar and tie and swung a rattle around . They weren't as halcyon days as some my age make out as times were truly tough but then people WERE tougher themselves | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:20 - Aug 29 with 538 views | Gwyn737 |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:08 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Anyway, back to the point at hand.
Can someone tell me why this is being ignored by Boundy?
Is it that he is a protected poster? Or that what he is doing is acceptable?
The answer to that could then shape what is and isn’t allowed on here, which will then affect how arguments and discussions are conducted.
(It’s all linked Gwyn) |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:26 - Aug 29 with 521 views | magicdaps10 |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:10 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Same answer as the last time you made that silly suggestion.
If I private message them then the answer will be private.
It should be no big secret, I want open clarification on what is and isn’t acceptable. If you believe the mere sight of that comment could create a “shite storm” then that will tell you I’m absolutely justified in bringing it up in the open - it’s shocking.
As I told you on my last reply - think. [Post edited 29 Aug 2022 14:13]
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You are missing the point again!!
The DM. Will answer the questions you have, deciding to bring it up and drag it out could lead to you being pointed out for targeting another poster.
I know you don't like being told but the quite obvious and correct route is to DM the MODS.
I am not getting into anything with you, I am trying to help you.......just DM them your concerns and questions and I am sure they will explain.
If they agree with what you say then I am sure they will DM the person that you have issues with.
Just take a bit of friendly advice on board.....its your best route rather than the way its going presently. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:28 - Aug 29 with 517 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Ironically I just noticed that the thread created initially to bring the poster and the poster to the attention of mods has been deleted…. Yet the post in question still there, still reported and still completely untouched.
How people can’t see why some are getting annoyed with selective moderating on here I’ll never know.
We have some cracking posters who id like to see return and who I know won’t until it’s sorted. It’s such a shame. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:31 - Aug 29 with 508 views | Gwyn737 |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:28 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Ironically I just noticed that the thread created initially to bring the poster and the poster to the attention of mods has been deleted…. Yet the post in question still there, still reported and still completely untouched.
How people can’t see why some are getting annoyed with selective moderating on here I’ll never know.
We have some cracking posters who id like to see return and who I know won’t until it’s sorted. It’s such a shame. |
Who isn’t returning due to moderation? | | | |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:34 - Aug 29 with 506 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:26 - Aug 29 by magicdaps10 |
You are missing the point again!!
The DM. Will answer the questions you have, deciding to bring it up and drag it out could lead to you being pointed out for targeting another poster.
I know you don't like being told but the quite obvious and correct route is to DM the MODS.
I am not getting into anything with you, I am trying to help you.......just DM them your concerns and questions and I am sure they will explain.
If they agree with what you say then I am sure they will DM the person that you have issues with.
Just take a bit of friendly advice on board.....its your best route rather than the way its going presently. |
Nope not missing any point, just disagreeing with your very silly one.
I won’t be PMing the mods. A “report abuse” report PM’s the mods, that was a week ago and nothing has been done. So your suggesting I’m afraid didn’t work.
I couldn’t give a monkeys what you accuse me of, I’ll happily target posters and posts mocking the murder of someone daughter. Sue me, Champ.
This needs to be open with the answers visible, we need to know what is and isn’t acceptable.
The suggestions of selective moderating are becoming clearer, so this will go some way to explaining why Boundy is still posting despite one of the sickest posts seen on this forum, while others are banned for silly things like calling someone “twp” or asking that a charity bet get settled.
For the third time, “think”. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:36 - Aug 29 with 504 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:31 - Aug 29 by Gwyn737 |
Who isn’t returning due to moderation? |
Minesapint had a gutsful, was probably the best poster on here at the time. The bully gang on here getting away with murder and others being brought up for responding to them.
I know AC has had enough of it. There are plenty. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:42 - Aug 29 with 486 views | KeithHaynes |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:36 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Minesapint had a gutsful, was probably the best poster on here at the time. The bully gang on here getting away with murder and others being brought up for responding to them.
I know AC has had enough of it. There are plenty. |
Maybe Minesapint should have spoken to me directly ? | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:42 - Aug 29 with 486 views | Gwyn737 |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:36 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Minesapint had a gutsful, was probably the best poster on here at the time. The bully gang on here getting away with murder and others being brought up for responding to them.
I know AC has had enough of it. There are plenty. |
Mineapint was an excellent poster, I agree.
AC make/made a lot of posts calling people who disagreed various synonyms of thick, so I never bothered engaging. | | | |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:43 - Aug 29 with 481 views | KeithHaynes |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:12 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
So why is he still posting is what I’m asking?
It’s one of the vilest things I’ve seen on here in probably 10 years. Mocking the death of someone’s daughter because he disagrees with her.
That post has been reported and has been for a week.
It was discussed about and brought up to SirJohn days ago and a screenshot provided to him. It’s still there. Boundy is still posting. |
NL and one other were banned on Sunday. Impossible,to post when they are banned., | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:48 - Aug 29 with 459 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:42 - Aug 29 by KeithHaynes |
Maybe Minesapint should have spoken to me directly ? |
I seem to remember he posted on here stating his reasons. I also told you privately the reasons he left.
There is clear bias, we have spoken about it many times privately. This is nothing new. It is the difficultly of knowing people off site, judgement gets clouded. Was the same on the other forum which is why scruff and his sidekick got away with so much vile content.
Same with Builth and some of his indiscretions, some so bad that Fans Network had to get involved. Not a single ban.
But that’s all history and I don’t see it changing.
All I’m asking is why Boundy is allowed to mock the death of someone’s young daughter? | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:51 - Aug 29 with 443 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Arguments vs discussions on 12:35 - Aug 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
So as soon as someone becomes emotional then that becomes an argument that they are bringing, in your eyes?
So considering I never get angry or emotional by words on a football forum, I think it’s fair I never get accused of arguing again then. |
Emotion and passion are essential in a lot of arguments/discussions. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of feeling behind words. But it crosses the line if it gets personal, names called or attacks on one’s character. |  |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:52 - Aug 29 with 439 views | Dr_Parnassus |
If the answer is because it’s acceptable.
Then that will be the answer. I’ll accept that.
It will just then set the standard of what people can and cannot say in discussions and arguments. | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:53 - Aug 29 with 429 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:51 - Aug 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Emotion and passion are essential in a lot of arguments/discussions. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of feeling behind words. But it crosses the line if it gets personal, names called or attacks on one’s character. |
Agreed | |
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| Arguments vs discussions on 14:54 - Aug 29 with 422 views | Sirjohnalot |
We are trying our best to make this forum as pleasant as possible, but we both have our own lives and are trying to fit this in around that. I do not know anyone (other than having met OHL for something to eat and watch the Blackpool game together, and he and I probably disagree, hopefully pleasantly, more than most) and I have no favouritism towards anyone, there is no agenda, there are no posters who can do what they want.
People have been banned, I have personally banned a few myself this week, but everyone has a responsibility to behave and simply ignore people who are not.
We are trying our best here, don't blame the mods, without Keith, we would have none of the content we all enjoy.
Please, please think twice, before you (everyone) posts. If someone is winding you up, have a cup of tea before responding, and maybe be the better person and simply shut the conversation down, let them 'win' and walk away |  | | |
| Arguments vs discussions on 14:54 - Aug 29 with 463 views | Dr_Parnassus |
That’s all well and good.
But why can’t anyone answer my question?
By the time you had written all that you could have responded to the report, deleted it and banned the user.
Or explained why you think it’s perfectly acceptable to mock the murder of a young innocent woman. | |
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