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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? 18:36 - Oct 26 with 9471 viewsSTID2017

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:43 - Oct 30 with 1109 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:33 - Oct 30 by vetchonian

I have no knowledge or allegience to him off this forum

I can appreciate Keiths position and understand the commitment as volunteers.....but there does seem to be at times different tolerance levels for different posters

I understand Doc P can be overbearing at times but that,s I guess due his psyche most data nuts tend to be a bit OTT

We all have our differing opinions and sometimes those on here are not founded on data,,,,I was also taught to "argue" with data and facts so I do understand where he comes from sometimes but I do admit he can go OTT but he is rarely if ever insulting or abusive.


I think sometimes it's a cry for help with him, I have seen these signs time and time again, people who cant control situations and continually need to respond to gain the upper hand and don't want to show certain characteristics because it shows weakness when it really doesn't.

I don't really 100% believe you when you say you don't know him, that doesn't really matter but you seem to get on with him and as you point out, you can see that he has some lack of control, maybe an experienced word in the shell like might not go a miss.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:52 - Oct 30 with 1073 viewsCatullus

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:17 - Oct 28 by Dr_Winston

Are people genuinely claiming that RM has altered the process under orders? Oh my.

What is more likely?

A. Martin finally realised after a year of dogmatism that what he was insisting upon wasn't working and that he had to change his system, but is a bit sheepish about it so doesn't want to come out and admit that so is basically claiming that this was the end plan all along, or;

B. He's been instructed from above (who would have the knowledge or authority to do so remains unclear) to change his entire professional outlook when no such thing previously happened in the more than a year he's been here already. Not only that, apparently he's been ordered to change his keeper. He's gone along with this entirely peacefully and quietly, which is entirely in line with the placid, non-antagonistic approach he's shown to others previously, mostly players.

If you genuinely believe that "B" is even remotely the most likely scenario, then I've got some magic beans to sell you.


What gets me most is the people who claim Martin was right all along. He eventually made changes, in his own word he adapted. it had to happen and it did and now we are reaping the rewards.

Well done to him for being pragmatic, in the end. Still too soon to offer a big new contract though, we've achieved nothing yet.

Norwich may be interested but if they take into account it's taken us 12 months to get where we are, will they be willing to chance that or will they want much, much quicker results?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:54 - Oct 30 with 1068 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:43 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

I think sometimes it's a cry for help with him, I have seen these signs time and time again, people who cant control situations and continually need to respond to gain the upper hand and don't want to show certain characteristics because it shows weakness when it really doesn't.

I don't really 100% believe you when you say you don't know him, that doesn't really matter but you seem to get on with him and as you point out, you can see that he has some lack of control, maybe an experienced word in the shell like might not go a miss.


Never kid yourself as to what you read on here What you perceive to be supporting a chap might be totally disingenuous.I try to react to that which I read I dont always succeed but that’s my aim AC and Dr P are posters who append for reasons we do not know .I don’t believe 60/70 per cent what is posted on here .

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:04 - Oct 30 with 1049 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:54 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Never kid yourself as to what you read on here What you perceive to be supporting a chap might be totally disingenuous.I try to react to that which I read I dont always succeed but that’s my aim AC and Dr P are posters who append for reasons we do not know .I don’t believe 60/70 per cent what is posted on here .


There is certainly a lot of fantasy island stuff on here, it's quite easy to see through......people make up things about their lives to mask their real life.

As you say, majority of things posted and said on here are so far from the truth BUT it's amazing how many people fall for it........the Piroe and his father saga and the not training line!

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:07 - Oct 30 with 1043 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:04 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

There is certainly a lot of fantasy island stuff on here, it's quite easy to see through......people make up things about their lives to mask their real life.

As you say, majority of things posted and said on here are so far from the truth BUT it's amazing how many people fall for it........the Piroe and his father saga and the not training line!


Not forgetting you might have posted a load of pony

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:25 - Oct 30 with 1030 viewsRichardO

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:52 - Oct 30 by Catullus

What gets me most is the people who claim Martin was right all along. He eventually made changes, in his own word he adapted. it had to happen and it did and now we are reaping the rewards.

Well done to him for being pragmatic, in the end. Still too soon to offer a big new contract though, we've achieved nothing yet.

Norwich may be interested but if they take into account it's taken us 12 months to get where we are, will they be willing to chance that or will they want much, much quicker results?


Surely the defensive side of the team last year was woefully whether it was lacking in pace, full of mistakes,unwillness to play loanees or an attempt balance the books by not playing big wage earners (was he told to get rid before new came in) He tried various combinations looked as if we had a saviour in the newly positioned Naughton only for it to come crashing down in games like Bournemouth when the loss of Cabango showed our inherent weakness.
He has new defenders this year which took time to bed in but still needs further Full or Wing backs and even defensive midfielders, has Martin made mistakes yes of course he has, could you really name a defensive team last year that could have lasted the season without a number of heavy defeats
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:29 - Oct 30 with 1026 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:07 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Not forgetting you might have posted a load of pony


That's correct, no question......I won't deny something that I posted incorrectly, I have no insecurities to put my hand up and I am strong enough to say sorry.

Life's good, it can get you down......i get things right and I get things wrong.
Unfortunately there are some who have a perfect life and are never wrong.......you and I know that if a person declares this then you can easily point out a liar.

Consistency andunderstanding(like a broken record)

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 17:06 - Oct 30 with 1009 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 16:29 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

That's correct, no question......I won't deny something that I posted incorrectly, I have no insecurities to put my hand up and I am strong enough to say sorry.

Life's good, it can get you down......i get things right and I get things wrong.
Unfortunately there are some who have a perfect life and are never wrong.......you and I know that if a person declares this then you can easily point out a liar.

Consistency andunderstanding(like a broken record)


Fair comment
I’d add to that anyone professing to have anything remotely a perfect life is a clown if only for the fact it can change on a second.

12 months in Traffic Plod taught me that


People going to work and not returning home . Kids going to school then not returning only to be found in a ditch like a dig.
Life is a very thin line

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:16 - Oct 30 with 976 viewsCatullus

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 17:06 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Fair comment
I’d add to that anyone professing to have anything remotely a perfect life is a clown if only for the fact it can change on a second.

12 months in Traffic Plod taught me that


People going to work and not returning home . Kids going to school then not returning only to be found in a ditch like a dig.
Life is a very thin line


My current (but hopefully very soon to be my previous job) has shown me how fickle life can be. I have come into contact with many homeless people, I've spoken with them, found out some truly shocking stories (which may not be true admittedly, or at least nowhere near the full story) but 14 years back we went through harsh times and we were worried about losing our home.

Some of the stuff I read on here is not nice, some of it obvious rubbish. If that's what people need to project then I feel sorry for them.

Dr P is never outright insulting but often very disparaging, I can be at times too. Dr P though comes across as vain, arrogant and self important, that's my opinion. Opinions of me may be like that too. I don't know and I don't really care, I am who I am.

Russell Martin has been called cocky, arrogant and other things, maybe in his job you need that to a degree, it's not a job for shrinking violets that's for sure.

The only thing I know of Martin besides his pressers and stuff on here is that Matt Grimes thinks him a top, top bloke.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:59 - Oct 30 with 955 viewsSTID2017

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:34 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Ive seen mental illness used as a pejorative many times .
It's a low as one can go.


If so then report it as offensive.
That way it is dealt with through the proper channels.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:16 - Oct 30 with 934 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:59 - Oct 30 by STID2017

If so then report it as offensive.
That way it is dealt with through the proper channels.


Yes but then it leads to crying baby images .
It’s because people are able to do this hidden behind a keyboard

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:23 - Oct 30 with 923 viewsKeithHaynes

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:16 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Yes but then it leads to crying baby images .
It’s because people are able to do this hidden behind a keyboard


Let’s leave it.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:25 - Oct 30 with 910 viewsKeithHaynes

I’ll say this one more time.

This site is run for the benefit of the brain tumour charity and to raise awareness of their work.Which we do. That’s voluntary, as is the moderation of this site and all the reports and information you get on here. TBH I’ve heard enough of this subject, we do our best, if people don’t like it there’s other options. This is another thread derailed by moaning about this website. It’s ridiculous.

And then it’s my turn.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:33 - Oct 30 with 890 viewsJak365

Could MagicDaps sound any more jealous of the Doc P? What a pathetic read. This is the issue really. Look how many mentions of where he lives, his life and his job. This is the root of the animosity towards him. Certain folk are green with envy and use this site to take out frustrations on him. If saying the word moronic is his crime then MagicDaps here should be banned 10 times over for this arse dribble. Can I say that lol
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:44 - Oct 30 with 870 viewsFireboy2

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:33 - Oct 30 by Jak365

Could MagicDaps sound any more jealous of the Doc P? What a pathetic read. This is the issue really. Look how many mentions of where he lives, his life and his job. This is the root of the animosity towards him. Certain folk are green with envy and use this site to take out frustrations on him. If saying the word moronic is his crime then MagicDaps here should be banned 10 times over for this arse dribble. Can I say that lol


Do not feed the troll people.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:45 - Oct 30 with 870 viewsSTID2017

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:33 - Oct 30 by Jak365

Could MagicDaps sound any more jealous of the Doc P? What a pathetic read. This is the issue really. Look how many mentions of where he lives, his life and his job. This is the root of the animosity towards him. Certain folk are green with envy and use this site to take out frustrations on him. If saying the word moronic is his crime then MagicDaps here should be banned 10 times over for this arse dribble. Can I say that lol


Suggest you read Keith's post just above ?
Time for the animosity to end

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:52 - Oct 30 with 868 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:33 - Oct 30 by Jak365

Could MagicDaps sound any more jealous of the Doc P? What a pathetic read. This is the issue really. Look how many mentions of where he lives, his life and his job. This is the root of the animosity towards him. Certain folk are green with envy and use this site to take out frustrations on him. If saying the word moronic is his crime then MagicDaps here should be banned 10 times over for this arse dribble. Can I say that lol


I will put thus to bed Andy Cole.

Everything that DrP posts is just words, he has informed us all regards his job, life and where he lives........he needs to inform all on here, good luck to him.

If what he types is true then it sounds nice and he has a good life....he certainly has things I don't but I have plenty he doesn't. I don't do jealousy but I certainly don't like unreasonable people.

He has brought everything on himself........nice try with the deflection AC but your game is clear and again its another poor reflection on you.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:25 - Oct 30 with 845 viewsJak365

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:52 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

I will put thus to bed Andy Cole.

Everything that DrP posts is just words, he has informed us all regards his job, life and where he lives........he needs to inform all on here, good luck to him.

If what he types is true then it sounds nice and he has a good life....he certainly has things I don't but I have plenty he doesn't. I don't do jealousy but I certainly don't like unreasonable people.

He has brought everything on himself........nice try with the deflection AC but your game is clear and again its another poor reflection on you.

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No need to try and convince me. I think it’s pretty clear from your words what your issue is with the Doc. He has a life you wish you had and so you take it out on him and do your best to get him banned. When he is you go into overdrive talking about his life. Not a single mention to what he was actually banned for which was calling your moronic post… moronic. Have it out with him on this subject when he returns. We will see how you fare. Lol
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:36 - Oct 30 with 832 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:25 - Oct 30 by Jak365

No need to try and convince me. I think it’s pretty clear from your words what your issue is with the Doc. He has a life you wish you had and so you take it out on him and do your best to get him banned. When he is you go into overdrive talking about his life. Not a single mention to what he was actually banned for which was calling your moronic post… moronic. Have it out with him on this subject when he returns. We will see how you fare. Lol


Probably end up with him getting banned again.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:41 - Oct 30 with 826 viewsJak365

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:36 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

Probably end up with him getting banned again.

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Almost certainly he would. You are very protected on here from the more intelligent and cutting posters who have the ability to slice through your puerile dribble. But if he is banned again for making you look idiotic then it means we would have to suffer you spewing all your jealousy for next 48 hours until you get it all out of your system again. Something for us all to look forward to.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:47 - Oct 30 with 809 viewsKeithHaynes

Well, I did warn you.

Next.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:58 - Oct 30 with 772 viewsbuilthjack

The club need to sit down with Russ and have a good chat. Get things moving.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 21:07 - Oct 30 with 736 viewsbuilthjack

Let’s go

Steve walks warily down the street
With his brim pulled way down low

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 21:47 - Oct 30 with 682 viewsCatullus

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 21:07 - Oct 30 by builthjack

Let’s go

Steve walks warily down the street
With his brim pulled way down low


Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet Machine guns ready to go Are you ready?


Back on the OP, no, not yet.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 22:12 - Oct 30 with 650 viewsSTID2017

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 21:47 - Oct 30 by Catullus

Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet Machine guns ready to go Are you ready?


Back on the OP, no, not yet.


Well I hope those guns aren't for the OP messenger !!
If this run continues up to the WC break, I can see the club acting to secure the services of RM and co for a longer duration

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