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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? 18:36 - Oct 26 with 9463 viewsSTID2017

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:23 - Oct 29 with 1038 viewsDr_Parnassus

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:21 - Oct 29 by STID2017

Seems some people need to learn more tolerance or stop posting.
To call people "moronic" ( literal meaning very foolish or stupid ) is wholly unacceptable.
We live in hope they may change, but such hope may be forlorn


Stand by it, the descriptive word couldn’t be more accurate.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:45 - Oct 29 with 964 viewsvetchonian

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:21 - Oct 29 by STID2017

Seems some people need to learn more tolerance or stop posting.
To call people "moronic" ( literal meaning very foolish or stupid ) is wholly unacceptable.
We live in hope they may change, but such hope may be forlorn


yes the same as calling people muppets!

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:29 - Oct 29 with 951 viewsGixerJack

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:45 - Oct 29 by vetchonian

yes the same as calling people muppets!


Calling someone a muppet isn’t necessarily an insult because those two old guys in the theatre box may have been a pair of top football thinkers for all we know whereas in comparison, calling someone, their view or their belief moronic is quite insulting.

That’s my view and if anyone disagrees with it they’re fully entitled to, I won’t take offence but call me twp, sheeple, moron or anything else for that matter I probably will
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:40 - Oct 29 with 942 viewsvetchonian

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:29 - Oct 29 by GixerJack

Calling someone a muppet isn’t necessarily an insult because those two old guys in the theatre box may have been a pair of top football thinkers for all we know whereas in comparison, calling someone, their view or their belief moronic is quite insulting.

That’s my view and if anyone disagrees with it they’re fully entitled to, I won’t take offence but call me twp, sheeple, moron or anything else for that matter I probably will


but that term is generally used as derogatory!

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:33 - Oct 29 with 913 viewsGixerJack

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 19:40 - Oct 29 by vetchonian

but that term is generally used as derogatory!


It can, and is often used as a term of endearment
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:55 - Oct 29 with 897 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:33 - Oct 29 by GixerJack

It can, and is often used as a term of endearment


No,it’s a pejorative

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 23:29 - Oct 29 with 853 viewsGixerJack

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 20:55 - Oct 29 by onehunglow

No,it’s a pejorative


I disagree!,,

Does that make me a muppet or a moron?
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 08:30 - Oct 30 with 816 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 18:45 - Oct 29 by vetchonian

yes the same as calling people muppets!


Serious question Vetch.

Why do you defend P and come out after he is banned to question things to his banning?

Guy is undefendable and you are not showing yourself up well with how you are sticking up for him and defending him......you clearly know him outside this forum?

He played up, he puts others down, he got warned and instead of accepting it....he acts like a petulant child. Banned fair and square.

He makes his own rules for others to follow but yet quite regularly doesn't follow them......main one being, he asks for proof on things and passes it off if none given, when he is asked he never delivers and states he works off facts and never lies when time and time again he is proven wrong......hecant even put his hands up and say he was wrong.

He needs to learn and learn quick, trouble is he has put himself so high up the pedestal that it's going to be a difficult task for him to sort it out.
When you read things like top of his profession and living in paradise, you know what type of individual you are dealing with.........you ever see the sketch on the fast show "I am considerably richer than you"

Rather than get his back, my advice would be try and talk some sense into the lad(good luck with that one).

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 09:02 - Oct 30 with 799 viewsvetchonian

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 08:30 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

Serious question Vetch.

Why do you defend P and come out after he is banned to question things to his banning?

Guy is undefendable and you are not showing yourself up well with how you are sticking up for him and defending him......you clearly know him outside this forum?

He played up, he puts others down, he got warned and instead of accepting it....he acts like a petulant child. Banned fair and square.

He makes his own rules for others to follow but yet quite regularly doesn't follow them......main one being, he asks for proof on things and passes it off if none given, when he is asked he never delivers and states he works off facts and never lies when time and time again he is proven wrong......hecant even put his hands up and say he was wrong.

He needs to learn and learn quick, trouble is he has put himself so high up the pedestal that it's going to be a difficult task for him to sort it out.
When you read things like top of his profession and living in paradise, you know what type of individual you are dealing with.........you ever see the sketch on the fast show "I am considerably richer than you"

Rather than get his back, my advice would be try and talk some sense into the lad(good luck with that one).


it's not a defence of Dr P it is questioning the lack of consistency on here....some posters are allowed to get away with insults and abuse whilst others dont

I'm not sure that individuals are always treated in the same way

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:20 - Oct 30 with 778 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 09:02 - Oct 30 by vetchonian

it's not a defence of Dr P it is questioning the lack of consistency on here....some posters are allowed to get away with insults and abuse whilst others dont

I'm not sure that individuals are always treated in the same way


One poster,a super fan,,one who travels to see Wales games, has openly insulted posters regularly with impunity .He says they are not proper fans like him. Others,his drinking chums,then join in. Amother beaut drags up spats from 15 years ago highlighting "contempt" and how its justified.

It would be easy to gain friends on here by eulogising russell martin. Many do;many wont have a bad word said about him

Get a grip

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:22 - Oct 30 with 775 viewsjack247

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:20 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

One poster,a super fan,,one who travels to see Wales games, has openly insulted posters regularly with impunity .He says they are not proper fans like him. Others,his drinking chums,then join in. Amother beaut drags up spats from 15 years ago highlighting "contempt" and how its justified.

It would be easy to gain friends on here by eulogising russell martin. Many do;many wont have a bad word said about him

Get a grip


I don’t think there are that many that won’t have a bad word said against him to be honest. It’s just a convenient narrative to peddle for certain people.

One or two of course, but we almost all wanted him out of the club not long ago.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:30 - Oct 30 with 769 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:22 - Oct 30 by jack247

I don’t think there are that many that won’t have a bad word said against him to be honest. It’s just a convenient narrative to peddle for certain people.

One or two of course, but we almost all wanted him out of the club not long ago.


Decent reply.
I d be glad to see him go;I admit that,mainly as I feel he is vastly overated and is not managing the players as he could. I dont believe he is a good judge of a player either as Sorinola would never be at our club if he were.
His ostracising of Fulton so early shows his lack of judgement and frankly he worries me as Ive not seen such personal affection for any of our managers and he has won nothing -at-all.
Fist pumps and selfies dont impress me at all.

We have had a good run but we have played some real crap outfits ;we have enough in the squad to crush teams. We havent.

We do look vulnerable though-as is obvious.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:42 - Oct 30 with 761 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 08:30 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

Serious question Vetch.

Why do you defend P and come out after he is banned to question things to his banning?

Guy is undefendable and you are not showing yourself up well with how you are sticking up for him and defending him......you clearly know him outside this forum?

He played up, he puts others down, he got warned and instead of accepting it....he acts like a petulant child. Banned fair and square.

He makes his own rules for others to follow but yet quite regularly doesn't follow them......main one being, he asks for proof on things and passes it off if none given, when he is asked he never delivers and states he works off facts and never lies when time and time again he is proven wrong......hecant even put his hands up and say he was wrong.

He needs to learn and learn quick, trouble is he has put himself so high up the pedestal that it's going to be a difficult task for him to sort it out.
When you read things like top of his profession and living in paradise, you know what type of individual you are dealing with.........you ever see the sketch on the fast show "I am considerably richer than you"

Rather than get his back, my advice would be try and talk some sense into the lad(good luck with that one).


Why did you not come out and say that Dr Winston's d1ckhead comment was totally out of order then added to by further hate speech with a crying baby meme thrown in was justifiably ban material.

Dr P has not come out with anything like that.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:45 - Oct 30 with 761 viewsjack247

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:30 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Decent reply.
I d be glad to see him go;I admit that,mainly as I feel he is vastly overated and is not managing the players as he could. I dont believe he is a good judge of a player either as Sorinola would never be at our club if he were.
His ostracising of Fulton so early shows his lack of judgement and frankly he worries me as Ive not seen such personal affection for any of our managers and he has won nothing -at-all.
Fist pumps and selfies dont impress me at all.

We have had a good run but we have played some real crap outfits ;we have enough in the squad to crush teams. We havent.

We do look vulnerable though-as is obvious.


I get that point of view, we have rode our luck a bit in the current run and maybe picked up one or two points more than we deserved, but we have generally been the better team.

He’s not perfect and he’s never going to be. Fulton may have been financially motivated? He’s a senior player and he’s been here a long time. It was well documented that we couldn’t sign Allen until we freed up some budget. Same could have been said for Ryan Bennett, although he probably doesn’t suit the way Martin wants to play.

Sorinola is the best crosser we have, but that aside it’s very difficult to justify why we signed him, let alone why he’s a first team regular. It looks like we’re slowly bedding Oko-Flex in and Manning is back which are both positives.

The teams we’ve beaten will be saying that as well. Watford and West Brom fans will certainly think they have the players to beat Swansea.

Back on point, fair enough if you want him out, but don’t buy into this ‘hareem who think Martin can do no wrong’ rhetoric. One or two maybe, but the vast majority of us wanted him out when we we’re getting beat most games and want him to stay now we’re winning.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:45 - Oct 30 with 761 viewsguthrieintherain

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 08:30 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

Serious question Vetch.

Why do you defend P and come out after he is banned to question things to his banning?

Guy is undefendable and you are not showing yourself up well with how you are sticking up for him and defending him......you clearly know him outside this forum?

He played up, he puts others down, he got warned and instead of accepting it....he acts like a petulant child. Banned fair and square.

He makes his own rules for others to follow but yet quite regularly doesn't follow them......main one being, he asks for proof on things and passes it off if none given, when he is asked he never delivers and states he works off facts and never lies when time and time again he is proven wrong......hecant even put his hands up and say he was wrong.

He needs to learn and learn quick, trouble is he has put himself so high up the pedestal that it's going to be a difficult task for him to sort it out.
When you read things like top of his profession and living in paradise, you know what type of individual you are dealing with.........you ever see the sketch on the fast show "I am considerably richer than you"

Rather than get his back, my advice would be try and talk some sense into the lad(good luck with that one).


I agree with Vetch not so much on football but on the inconsistency of moderators on here.

It stinks to put it bluntly there was a post on here not so long ago stating he had a mental health condition.
That poster is still on the forum.

All I would like to see is some fairness on here and posters treated equally.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:09 - Oct 30 with 734 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:45 - Oct 30 by jack247

I get that point of view, we have rode our luck a bit in the current run and maybe picked up one or two points more than we deserved, but we have generally been the better team.

He’s not perfect and he’s never going to be. Fulton may have been financially motivated? He’s a senior player and he’s been here a long time. It was well documented that we couldn’t sign Allen until we freed up some budget. Same could have been said for Ryan Bennett, although he probably doesn’t suit the way Martin wants to play.

Sorinola is the best crosser we have, but that aside it’s very difficult to justify why we signed him, let alone why he’s a first team regular. It looks like we’re slowly bedding Oko-Flex in and Manning is back which are both positives.

The teams we’ve beaten will be saying that as well. Watford and West Brom fans will certainly think they have the players to beat Swansea.

Back on point, fair enough if you want him out, but don’t buy into this ‘hareem who think Martin can do no wrong’ rhetoric. One or two maybe, but the vast majority of us wanted him out when we we’re getting beat most games and want him to stay now we’re winning.


This is the way to discourse ,folks

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:22 - Oct 30 with 720 viewsguthrieintherain

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:45 - Oct 30 by guthrieintherain

I agree with Vetch not so much on football but on the inconsistency of moderators on here.

It stinks to put it bluntly there was a post on here not so long ago stating he had a mental health condition.
That poster is still on the forum.

All I would like to see is some fairness on here and posters treated equally.


Be interesting to see what Manning and Flex could do as wing backs.

Give Lati and Sorinola a rest.

Sorinola can cross but can't beat a man.

Manning for me has been our best player this season and Flex looked good yesterday when he came on.

We have some strenght in depth now so why not use it.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:22 - Oct 30 with 720 viewsWhiterockin

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 10:45 - Oct 30 by guthrieintherain

I agree with Vetch not so much on football but on the inconsistency of moderators on here.

It stinks to put it bluntly there was a post on here not so long ago stating he had a mental health condition.
That poster is still on the forum.

All I would like to see is some fairness on here and posters treated equally.


I think you need to look at the bigger picture. Some who have been banned temporally on this site have been banned permanently on other sites. The banning seems consistent just the length of time differs.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:34 - Oct 30 with 714 viewsonehunglow

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:22 - Oct 30 by Whiterockin

I think you need to look at the bigger picture. Some who have been banned temporally on this site have been banned permanently on other sites. The banning seems consistent just the length of time differs.


Ive seen mental illness used as a pejorative many times .
It's a low as one can go.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:51 - Oct 30 with 705 viewsWhiterockin

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:34 - Oct 30 by onehunglow

Ive seen mental illness used as a pejorative many times .
It's a low as one can go.


I don't really disagree, but ask yourself why some are banned permanently from other sites. Are all mods being unfair to them or is there an issue with the posters themselves.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:54 - Oct 30 with 701 viewsKeithHaynes

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:22 - Oct 30 by guthrieintherain

Be interesting to see what Manning and Flex could do as wing backs.

Give Lati and Sorinola a rest.

Sorinola can cross but can't beat a man.

Manning for me has been our best player this season and Flex looked good yesterday when he came on.

We have some strenght in depth now so why not use it.


This site is run for the benefit of the brain tumour charity and to raise awareness of their work.Which we do. That’s voluntary, as is the moderation of this site and all the reports and information you get on here.

TBH I’ve heard enough of this subject, we do our best, if people don’t like it there’s other options.
This is another thread derailed by moaning about this website. It’s ridiculous.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:03 - Oct 30 with 635 viewsNotLoyal

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 11:54 - Oct 30 by KeithHaynes

This site is run for the benefit of the brain tumour charity and to raise awareness of their work.Which we do. That’s voluntary, as is the moderation of this site and all the reports and information you get on here.

TBH I’ve heard enough of this subject, we do our best, if people don’t like it there’s other options.
This is another thread derailed by moaning about this website. It’s ridiculous.

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There’s some reptilian thinking on here at times.
And I bet nobody would say it to your face, mugs.
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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:51 - Oct 30 with 605 viewsmagicdaps10

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 09:02 - Oct 30 by vetchonian

it's not a defence of Dr P it is questioning the lack of consistency on here....some posters are allowed to get away with insults and abuse whilst others dont

I'm not sure that individuals are always treated in the same way


So you do know him off the forum?

I don't know Keith or any of the other posters he has an issue with(he clearly does) and there are a few.

I am neutral so I am not swayed at all.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:33 - Oct 30 with 584 viewsvetchonian

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 14:51 - Oct 30 by magicdaps10

So you do know him off the forum?

I don't know Keith or any of the other posters he has an issue with(he clearly does) and there are a few.

I am neutral so I am not swayed at all.


I have no knowledge or allegience to him off this forum

I can appreciate Keiths position and understand the commitment as volunteers.....but there does seem to be at times different tolerance levels for different posters

I understand Doc P can be overbearing at times but that,s I guess due his psyche most data nuts tend to be a bit OTT

We all have our differing opinions and sometimes those on here are not founded on data,,,,I was also taught to "argue" with data and facts so I do understand where he comes from sometimes but I do admit he can go OTT but he is rarely if ever insulting or abusive.

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A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:36 - Oct 30 with 578 viewsNotLoyal

A New Contract For Russell Martin ? on 15:33 - Oct 30 by vetchonian

I have no knowledge or allegience to him off this forum

I can appreciate Keiths position and understand the commitment as volunteers.....but there does seem to be at times different tolerance levels for different posters

I understand Doc P can be overbearing at times but that,s I guess due his psyche most data nuts tend to be a bit OTT

We all have our differing opinions and sometimes those on here are not founded on data,,,,I was also taught to "argue" with data and facts so I do understand where he comes from sometimes but I do admit he can go OTT but he is rarely if ever insulting or abusive.


I blame schizophrenia.
Trying to be all those people in one day must be very challenging.

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