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Tenerife 13:47 - Nov 26 with 7883 viewspencoedjack

All kicked off last night.

& we have people moaning about lack of alcohol in Doha.
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Tenerife on 12:01 - Nov 28 with 1183 viewsSirjohnalot

Tenerife on 11:30 - Nov 28 by onehunglow

And then that leads us to what is “ reasonable”
What is reasonable is surely a subjective matter.


eg if he had no reason to believe that there would be any person around that would be caused harassment, alarm and distress, or if his conduct was reasonable, in so far as an every day person would think.

So telling a mate on a building site or in a pub on a Friday night, as part of a friendly conversation to 'f off', would be entirely different to shouting it out in a busy hospital waiting room.
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Tenerife on 12:03 - Nov 28 with 1158 viewsonehunglow

Tenerife on 12:01 - Nov 28 by Sirjohnalot

eg if he had no reason to believe that there would be any person around that would be caused harassment, alarm and distress, or if his conduct was reasonable, in so far as an every day person would think.

So telling a mate on a building site or in a pub on a Friday night, as part of a friendly conversation to 'f off', would be entirely different to shouting it out in a busy hospital waiting room.


Thanks for the reply .

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Tenerife on 12:09 - Nov 28 with 1155 viewsraynor94

Tenerife on 20:04 - Nov 27 by controversial_jack

Not been to either. Have been to Zante though


Which part? It's a fantastic Island

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Tenerife on 13:47 - Nov 28 with 1101 viewscontroversial_jack

Tenerife on 12:09 - Nov 28 by raynor94

Which part? It's a fantastic Island


Tssilivi. It was very nice too
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Tenerife on 14:31 - Nov 28 with 1074 viewsSTID2017

Tenerife on 13:47 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

Tssilivi. It was very nice too


Stayed in Kalamaki in around 1996.
Very undeveloped and idyllic then.
Been told it has developed somewhat since then

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Tenerife on 14:57 - Nov 28 with 1064 viewsraynor94

Tenerife on 13:47 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

Tssilivi. It was very nice too


Yes, stayed there a couple of times, mostly stay in Argassi

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Tenerife on 23:07 - Nov 28 with 965 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Tenerife on 19:01 - Nov 27 by ReslovenSwan1

Their nonsense is racist . Our nonsense is not unless it is rehashing their racism. Your idea of an 'open house' approach where all racist chanting and threatening behaviour is normalised for all ethnic groups is interesting.

Raheem Sterling under you plan, subjected to monkey chants should be told to get over it and not complain and homophobic chanting will again go back to the good old 1980s. (What decade that was).

We can 'grow up' and get back to taunting female lines people and physios with lurid suggestions under your plan. I do not think you would get away with it anymore to be honest.


“And did those sheep, in ancient times……..”

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Tenerife on 23:10 - Nov 28 with 957 viewsDJack

Tenerife on 14:57 - Nov 28 by raynor94

Yes, stayed there a couple of times, mostly stay in Argassi


I'll note that. The missus would like to try but I'm not fussed. A recommendation from yourself is worthy of a second look. Ta.

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Tenerife on 23:11 - Nov 28 with 957 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Tenerife on 20:47 - Nov 27 by pencoedjack

Costa Teguise in Lanzarote is lovely.

Nice bars & a wonderful walk along the sea front.

Not a fan of Tenerife or Gran Canaria.


It’s the whole volcanic island thing I’m not in favour of. Give me the Balearic, Ionian, agean islands or Cyprus please. I know that rules out Hawaii but I’m not that bothered

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Tenerife on 23:15 - Nov 28 with 956 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Tenerife on 22:59 - Nov 27 by ReslovenSwan1

Welsh fans do not sing something similar. They just do not. There is no chant from Welsh fans that depict specifically English fans are 'sub human'. Certain town yes but not English.

Distance form the disorder is not a defence. we now have TV footage and lip readers to back up players claims. Being in crowd does not protect you.. The phrase 'black C###'. was used here apparently to Raheem Stirling.



Bestialisers have to be human otherwise they aren’t bestialisers. I think the English are accusing us of being human but having romantic feelings for animals . This could be cows, sheep or pigs. Although David Cameron has the pig sex thing all sewn up.

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Tenerife on 23:22 - Nov 28 with 948 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Tenerife on 23:10 - Nov 28 by DJack

I'll note that. The missus would like to try but I'm not fussed. A recommendation from yourself is worthy of a second look. Ta.


Zante is nice (I’ve been to Laganas but real Greece is to be found in the Cyclades or Dodecanese islands. If you do go there take the island tour which takes in the Greek Orthodox monastery of Anafonitria and the amazing Village of Maxerado and its mysterious icon of Aghia Mavra (St Maura).
And do eat octopus.

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Tenerife on 23:23 - Nov 28 with 948 viewsDJack

Tenerife on 23:11 - Nov 28 by Brynmill_Jack

It’s the whole volcanic island thing I’m not in favour of. Give me the Balearic, Ionian, agean islands or Cyprus please. I know that rules out Hawaii but I’m not that bothered


I went to Costa Teguise in the late 90's and I enjoyed it. My hotel was sh...As the travel agent overbooked and downgraded us but we still enjoyed the place.

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Tenerife on 23:32 - Nov 28 with 943 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Tenerife on 23:23 - Nov 28 by DJack

I went to Costa Teguise in the late 90's and I enjoyed it. My hotel was sh...As the travel agent overbooked and downgraded us but we still enjoyed the place.


I’ve been there and Puerto Del Carmen (where myself and a workmate went in 1989 and believe we met Bez and Shaun or Paul Ryder on the beach - Bez was doing headstands) . It were proper surreal .
It’s a great all round climate but I find the canary islands cold and soulless .

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Tenerife (n/t) on 10:36 - Nov 29 with 843 viewsDJack

Tenerife on 23:32 - Nov 28 by Brynmill_Jack

I’ve been there and Puerto Del Carmen (where myself and a workmate went in 1989 and believe we met Bez and Shaun or Paul Ryder on the beach - Bez was doing headstands) . It were proper surreal .
It’s a great all round climate but I find the canary islands cold and soulless .



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Tenerife on 10:59 - Nov 29 with 831 viewspencoedjack

Tenerife on 23:11 - Nov 28 by Brynmill_Jack

It’s the whole volcanic island thing I’m not in favour of. Give me the Balearic, Ionian, agean islands or Cyprus please. I know that rules out Hawaii but I’m not that bothered


Went to Hawaii on my honeymoon wouldn’t go back (the island not my wife)
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Tenerife (n/t) on 12:51 - Nov 29 with 777 viewsonehunglow

Tenerife (n/t) on 10:36 - Nov 29 by DJack



Playa Blanca is lovely and chav free .
It is soulless though ,no doubt being man made in 1949

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Tenerife (n/t) on 13:40 - Nov 29 with 754 viewsraynor94

Tenerife (n/t) on 12:51 - Nov 29 by onehunglow

Playa Blanca is lovely and chav free .
It is soulless though ,no doubt being man made in 1949


Stayed in the Rubicon Palace a couple of times, I do like Playa Blanca

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Tenerife on 14:02 - Nov 29 with 741 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tenerife on 23:15 - Nov 28 by Brynmill_Jack

Bestialisers have to be human otherwise they aren’t bestialisers. I think the English are accusing us of being human but having romantic feelings for animals . This could be cows, sheep or pigs. Although David Cameron has the pig sex thing all sewn up.


Yes it is a racist trope. The English go into deep personal loathing on an hysterical scale if the target is African or Asian except the right wing. It is gutter humour and not n my bag. I am sad to see my countrymen introducing these ethnic slurs to their children. The problem is English not Welsh.

The Anglo perspective on here do not even see a problem.

It is either
a) not a real insult or
b) Welsh are not an ethic group.

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Tenerife on 09:49 - Nov 30 with 669 viewscontroversial_jack

Tenerife on 10:59 - Nov 29 by pencoedjack

Went to Hawaii on my honeymoon wouldn’t go back (the island not my wife)


What didn't you like about it?
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Tenerife (n/t) on 11:15 - Nov 30 with 630 viewsonehunglow

Tenerife (n/t) on 13:40 - Nov 29 by raynor94

Stayed in the Rubicon Palace a couple of times, I do like Playa Blanca


Nice
Yaiza Princess better located

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Tenerife on 12:54 - Nov 30 with 608 viewspencoedjack

Tenerife on 09:49 - Nov 30 by controversial_jack

What didn't you like about it?


I went to Honolulu which was nice ( bit commercialised) but I have been too far nicer places without going so far (we stopped in Vegas en route).

Great experience but I wouldn’t recommend it.
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