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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! 19:35 - May 4 with 3987 viewsSwansIndependent


And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! 4th May 2023 19:31
It won’t come as a surprise to our readers after we reported this in an exclusive early on Sunday morning. The savings to the club will come in at around three hundred and fifty thousand pounds with Josh Marsh and Julian Winter leaving Swansea City. 1



As per our Sunday report. Click above.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 18:23 - May 5 with 981 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 18:00 - May 5 by QJumpingJack

I hope the club deal with the Winter and Marsh departures in a respectful manner.
It does not reflect well on the club doing it this way.


I’m pretty sure they aren’t just finding out now…

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 18:53 - May 5 with 940 viewsmagicdaps10

OK, got a little bit more on this.

Coleman and Cravatt have been on the scene since October, both already watched the Swans both at home and a few times away from home. These guys both have business interests with the current team of Levien and Kaplan, both having put and been in involved with DC United.

Nigel Morris has no business links with either Kaplan and Levien in the past and has not been involved with DC United, he arrived on the scene at the time that Kaplan was in the country a little while back.....this was the first time he and Morris met.

Sorry if there is anything obvious in there or already known.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 18:56 - May 5 with 929 viewsKeithHaynes

Whatever happens tonight folks, we have a new moderator and I’m not fully briefed on the website forums interactions. Their brief is to ban immediately any name calling or personal attacks by anyone towards anyone.

Have a lovely Friday evening 😉

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:05 - May 5 with 922 viewsshaggyrogers

I can confirm that Martin Morgan has nothing to do in sourcing the new investment. Daps is clutching. The Doc is right
Also why would he want to see his shareholding diminish in consequence unless it was protected. Let's put this one to bed.

A little nervous of another American being at the helm. Pearlman cost the club millions in salary and totally wrong decisions regarding stadium, catering etc. He tried to undo what was tried and tested and it failed. UK sport is so different to US. Fingers crossed
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:15 - May 5 with 901 viewsmagicdaps10

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:05 - May 5 by shaggyrogers

I can confirm that Martin Morgan has nothing to do in sourcing the new investment. Daps is clutching. The Doc is right
Also why would he want to see his shareholding diminish in consequence unless it was protected. Let's put this one to bed.

A little nervous of another American being at the helm. Pearlman cost the club millions in salary and totally wrong decisions regarding stadium, catering etc. He tried to undo what was tried and tested and it failed. UK sport is so different to US. Fingers crossed


Being a Football chairman is a unique job, a job that comes with experience and certainly not having a proven record in another field that will prepare you as a chairman of a Football club.
We should all be nervous to an extent as this guy will be naturally.

There is a lot that could quite possibly come out, we may never know the full truths but I suspect with so many voices involved that things might come to the surface eventually.

It would be interesting to hear what the links with Morris and Kaplan/Levein are? I would personally like to hear.

We know that Cravatt and Coleman have links to DC United, so where did these Morris connections come from considering other suggestions can be put to bed.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:16 - May 5 with 898 viewsReslovenSwan1

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:05 - May 5 by shaggyrogers

I can confirm that Martin Morgan has nothing to do in sourcing the new investment. Daps is clutching. The Doc is right
Also why would he want to see his shareholding diminish in consequence unless it was protected. Let's put this one to bed.

A little nervous of another American being at the helm. Pearlman cost the club millions in salary and totally wrong decisions regarding stadium, catering etc. He tried to undo what was tried and tested and it failed. UK sport is so different to US. Fingers crossed


So all Americans do things the same right? Also Coleman will be spending money in a company where he is a trusted shareholder where as Pearlman was a hired hand. American take risks for big rewards. Welshmen generally are risk averse and generally avoid football like the plague. Morgan Jenkins and Sullivan at West Ham being exceptions.

Pearlman has made mistakes and Levien and co paid for them and learned. Anything done
correctly in the Premier leagues is always a mistake in the Championship. He will have Watson alongside him of course.

Russ wanting Latibeaudiere and Naughton to be offered new deals does not fit the mantra of a fresh new start. Cannot Congreve and Cotterill match Cundle?

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:57 - May 5 with 797 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 18:53 - May 5 by magicdaps10

OK, got a little bit more on this.

Coleman and Cravatt have been on the scene since October, both already watched the Swans both at home and a few times away from home. These guys both have business interests with the current team of Levien and Kaplan, both having put and been in involved with DC United.

Nigel Morris has no business links with either Kaplan and Levien in the past and has not been involved with DC United, he arrived on the scene at the time that Kaplan was in the country a little while back.....this was the first time he and Morris met.

Sorry if there is anything obvious in there or already known.


None of this is true.

- You said Brett has connections to DC United, no he doesn’t.

- You said they have BOTH watched multiple games home and away, no THEY haven’t yet (not in person anyway). Cardiff and Coventry.

- You said they have been on board since October last year, no they weren’t.

- You said Morgan was instrumental in getting these guys on board, no he wasn’t.

- You said Nigel has a significant investment and the other two don’t, this is incorrect.

- You said Kaplan and Morris met when Kaplan was over, that is incorrect.

Just to correct the record.
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:59 - May 5 with 787 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:05 - May 5 by shaggyrogers

I can confirm that Martin Morgan has nothing to do in sourcing the new investment. Daps is clutching. The Doc is right
Also why would he want to see his shareholding diminish in consequence unless it was protected. Let's put this one to bed.

A little nervous of another American being at the helm. Pearlman cost the club millions in salary and totally wrong decisions regarding stadium, catering etc. He tried to undo what was tried and tested and it failed. UK sport is so different to US. Fingers crossed


Absolutely, previous claims that Morgan was behind these investors is absolutely wrong.

The nationality of the Chairman shouldn’t come into it however, he is apparently extremely competent.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:01 - May 5 with 780 viewsQJumpingJack

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 19:57 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

None of this is true.

- You said Brett has connections to DC United, no he doesn’t.

- You said they have BOTH watched multiple games home and away, no THEY haven’t yet (not in person anyway). Cardiff and Coventry.

- You said they have been on board since October last year, no they weren’t.

- You said Morgan was instrumental in getting these guys on board, no he wasn’t.

- You said Nigel has a significant investment and the other two don’t, this is incorrect.

- You said Kaplan and Morris met when Kaplan was over, that is incorrect.

Just to correct the record.
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Coleman confirmed he watched Swansea vs Cardiff last October - it is in his open letter.
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:02 - May 5 with 771 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:01 - May 5 by QJumpingJack

Coleman confirmed he watched Swansea vs Cardiff last October - it is in his open letter.


Coleman has been to Swansea several times.

Brett has once, but has not watched multiple away games. (I will put BOTH and THEY in caps for emphasis).
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:03 - May 5 with 767 viewsQJumpingJack

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:02 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Coleman has been to Swansea several times.

Brett has once, but has not watched multiple away games. (I will put BOTH and THEY in caps for emphasis).
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how do you know all their movements? do you work for the club?
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:05 - May 5 with 743 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:03 - May 5 by QJumpingJack

how do you know all their movements? do you work for the club?


I have extremely good connections with people at the club, so am able to rectify mistruths immediately and with ease.

What those connections entail, I’m not at liberty to say.

Just look at my track record.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:17 - May 5 with 709 viewsSTID2017

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:05 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

I have extremely good connections with people at the club, so am able to rectify mistruths immediately and with ease.

What those connections entail, I’m not at liberty to say.

Just look at my track record.


What track record ?
Please enlighten us as to what "revelations" you have given us ?
Keith and the team have given us many.
the only ITK nonsense I have seen from you was about how bad Martin was at handling Piroe and Obafemi (the latter who is now showing the same negativity he showed at Southampton and here at his latest club Burnley)

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:21 - May 5 with 699 viewsDr_Parnassus

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:17 - May 5 by STID2017

What track record ?
Please enlighten us as to what "revelations" you have given us ?
Keith and the team have given us many.
the only ITK nonsense I have seen from you was about how bad Martin was at handling Piroe and Obafemi (the latter who is now showing the same negativity he showed at Southampton and here at his latest club Burnley)


In a time where there was so much inaccuracy being thrown around by members, I have leaned on my sources to help Keith on recent news which I’m sure he won’t mind confirming - and it seems to be paying dividends doesn’t it, we make a pretty good team.

Accuracy is vital on these forums and careful management of factual information stops false narratives developing, which has become an issue of late.

You’re welcome.
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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 20:34 - May 5 with 667 viewsDr_Parnassus

Next revelation:

Nigel Morris having the lions share of the shares is a completely false narrative designed to take credit away from the majority ownership by leaning on his half Welsh heritage to try and concoct a story/link that it is all down to Martin Morgan (the tired mistruth that refuses to die).

More to come when the club announce the ownership details.

Who do you reckon is right?

Watch this space.

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And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 10:57 - May 6 with 488 viewsguthrieintherain

And so it goes : Marsh & Winter on their way ! on 22:21 - May 4 by NotLoyal

What’s the matter Guthrie fat fingers ? They put a lot of work in on here.


Sorry down arrowed by mistake had no idea small phone fat fingers like you say.

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