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UK Economy 17:12 - Sep 1 with 6193 viewsSullutaCreturned

Apparently it's doing better thn some thought and we are not bottom of the G7.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/bus

So maybe don't 100% believe estimates and don't keep writing the UK off because it suits your agenda?
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UK Economy on 17:22 - Sep 1 with 3255 viewsmax936

Smoke and mirrors and fudging of figures by Sunak and his crew!
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UK Economy on 17:35 - Sep 1 with 3242 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 17:22 - Sep 1 by max936

Smoke and mirrors and fudging of figures by Sunak and his crew!


it's the ONS though, people believed them when it was bad news.

Surely it is more significant because it relies on the actual evidence and not the guesswork of the previous "estimate"?
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UK Economy on 18:26 - Sep 1 with 3212 viewsGwyn737

It’s really positive but can you imagine what life would have been like now if the figures were correct…
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UK Economy on 19:47 - Sep 1 with 3186 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Always interesting to see how people in the media react to statistics and how they pick the ones that suit their agenda. Some outlets reporting this and others ignoring it.

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UK Economy on 19:57 - Sep 1 with 3179 viewsWhiterockin

UK Economy on 19:47 - Sep 1 by JACKMANANDBOY

Always interesting to see how people in the media react to statistics and how they pick the ones that suit their agenda. Some outlets reporting this and others ignoring it.


Pretty much like posters on here.
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UK Economy on 20:00 - Sep 1 with 3167 viewsGwyn737

UK Economy on 19:47 - Sep 1 by JACKMANANDBOY

Always interesting to see how people in the media react to statistics and how they pick the ones that suit their agenda. Some outlets reporting this and others ignoring it.


The BBC are.

Radio, Tv and website.
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UK Economy on 21:21 - Sep 1 with 3120 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Meanwhile Scotland entered recession in the six months of the year. The SNP blamed it on a lack of wind resulting in lower electricity generated from wind turbines. The SNP want to stop all new investment in new gas and oil fields which has resulted in a fall in new investments in North Sea oil fields.

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UK Economy on 09:05 - Sep 2 with 3056 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 19:57 - Sep 1 by Whiterockin

Pretty much like posters on here.


We all choose what we want to believe. Take the Greenwood thread as ample evidence.

Edit, it is very noticeable that nne of those who like to slag off the UK/Brexit etc have commented on this thread.
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UK Economy on 20:36 - Sep 2 with 2980 viewsKilkennyjack

UK Economy on 09:05 - Sep 2 by SullutaCreturned

We all choose what we want to believe. Take the Greenwood thread as ample evidence.

Edit, it is very noticeable that nne of those who like to slag off the UK/Brexit etc have commented on this thread.
[Post edited 2 Sep 2023 15:41]


We post when we want.
We dont jump around for you, thats for sure ….. sit down please ….

‘Yes, thankfully our schools aren’t falling down, prices in the shops don’t rise on every visit, our waterways aren’t full of sewage, public money isn’t being siphoned off into Tory pockets & rights hard won over the years aren’t being decimated by a government only intent on enriching itself & its donors & not the people who elected it.
Oh…’

‘ and it makes not an iota of difference to the ordinary person who is still suffering soaring costs, crumbling schools & infrastructure, struggling NHS, effluent filled rivers & coasts, food bank use & poverty rising while the 1% you support get richer’.

Context and reality.

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UK Economy on 13:24 - Sep 3 with 2912 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 20:36 - Sep 2 by Kilkennyjack

We post when we want.
We dont jump around for you, thats for sure ….. sit down please ….

‘Yes, thankfully our schools aren’t falling down, prices in the shops don’t rise on every visit, our waterways aren’t full of sewage, public money isn’t being siphoned off into Tory pockets & rights hard won over the years aren’t being decimated by a government only intent on enriching itself & its donors & not the people who elected it.
Oh…’

‘ and it makes not an iota of difference to the ordinary person who is still suffering soaring costs, crumbling schools & infrastructure, struggling NHS, effluent filled rivers & coasts, food bank use & poverty rising while the 1% you support get richer’.

Context and reality.


Taunt them and they will come

Why are you here if not to answer my post. On the subject of which you seem to have failed to answer. Try again, the Uk economy isn't doing as bad as you said, isn't the worst in the G7 and isn't as bad as Germany.

That is a reality. The context to that is that many people are still struggling with the cost of living while a useless government does very little to help.

I await your next "not jumping around" post

PS, hang on, reading your posts, every time you are proved wrong, which is a lot, you jump to something else instead of answering the asked questions!

PPS, Currently a range of powers already devolved to the National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government are operated within an EU regulatory framework. These include agriculture, fisheries, environment and economic development so much of what you moaned about is Wales responsibility. Hmmm.
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UK Economy on 16:39 - Sep 3 with 2866 viewsKilkennyjack

UK Economy on 13:24 - Sep 3 by SullutaCreturned

Taunt them and they will come

Why are you here if not to answer my post. On the subject of which you seem to have failed to answer. Try again, the Uk economy isn't doing as bad as you said, isn't the worst in the G7 and isn't as bad as Germany.

That is a reality. The context to that is that many people are still struggling with the cost of living while a useless government does very little to help.

I await your next "not jumping around" post

PS, hang on, reading your posts, every time you are proved wrong, which is a lot, you jump to something else instead of answering the asked questions!

PPS, Currently a range of powers already devolved to the National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government are operated within an EU regulatory framework. These include agriculture, fisheries, environment and economic development so much of what you moaned about is Wales responsibility. Hmmm.
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Google the difference between funding and responsibility.

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UK Economy on 19:37 - Sep 3 with 2832 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 16:39 - Sep 3 by Kilkennyjack

Google the difference between funding and responsibility.


OOOh...."bounce"

Now then, Westminster gives Wales money to spend and the Senedd has the responsibiity for spending that money.

Now what about the 150 million Drakeford sent back because of negligence?

What about the NHS money Drakeford has spent on things besides the NHS?

Why is the Welsh economy struggling because of a lack of investment in infrastructure by the Senedd?

Who takes responsibility for what the Senedd does? Because all Drakeford does is blame Wetsminster.

Will you answer the questions and not go jumping about with the whataboutery? Rhetorical, I know the answer
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UK Economy on 21:04 - Sep 3 with 2810 viewsFireboy2

Errrrrr if the economy is doing well wtf hasn't the interest rate dropped for mortgages 🤔
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UK Economy on 21:37 - Sep 3 with 2790 viewsbuilthjack

Fuel,is flying up again, food up around 30% in a year, leccy, gas , still very expensive.
Shouldn’t all,of these be down if the country is do8ng well?
Of course they should.

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UK Economy on 23:02 - Sep 3 with 2769 viewsonehunglow

UK Economy on 21:37 - Sep 3 by builthjack

Fuel,is flying up again, food up around 30% in a year, leccy, gas , still very expensive.
Shouldn’t all,of these be down if the country is do8ng well?
Of course they should.


Mid wales only for the wealthy really with fuel prices at ludicrous levels
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UK Economy on 14:15 - Sep 4 with 2711 viewscontroversial_jack

UK Economy on 23:02 - Sep 3 by onehunglow

Mid wales only for the wealthy really with fuel prices at ludicrous levels
I'm on Bala again this week and we will be ripped off
It's a pleasure


Inflation will start to drop as consumers run out of money and limit their spending. We will have a recession then which will bring the prices down Hopefully house and car prices will tumble
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UK Economy on 14:24 - Sep 4 with 2707 viewsWhiterockin

UK Economy on 14:15 - Sep 4 by controversial_jack

Inflation will start to drop as consumers run out of money and limit their spending. We will have a recession then which will bring the prices down Hopefully house and car prices will tumble


Houses will take a minor fall before returning back to where they are.

I can't see new car prices coming down unless the electric car date changes. There is going to be a massive demand before they stop selling petrol/ diesel.
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UK Economy on 14:55 - Sep 4 with 2687 viewscontroversial_jack

UK Economy on 14:24 - Sep 4 by Whiterockin

Houses will take a minor fall before returning back to where they are.

I can't see new car prices coming down unless the electric car date changes. There is going to be a massive demand before they stop selling petrol/ diesel.


House prices have already dropped by 5%. I don't know many who are changing their cars at the moment.I will run my longer that usual, if they keep going
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UK Economy on 15:40 - Sep 4 with 2664 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 21:04 - Sep 3 by Fireboy2

Errrrrr if the economy is doing well wtf hasn't the interest rate dropped for mortgages 🤔


Who said it was doing well? It's just doing better than anyone said it was.

There are still ongoing problems with inflation AND we shouldn't forget the perverse profiteering by corporate goons. The prices don't need to be so high, record profits are being announced and then we're told it's nt to do with hgher prices, yeah right.

The interest rate is high to try and get inflation down, as long as the corporates keep profiteering, inflation won't drop. Oil prices, the OPEC goons could pump more but they are restricting supply to keep prices artificially high.
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UK Economy on 16:18 - Sep 4 with 2652 viewsFireboy2

UK Economy on 15:40 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

Who said it was doing well? It's just doing better than anyone said it was.

There are still ongoing problems with inflation AND we shouldn't forget the perverse profiteering by corporate goons. The prices don't need to be so high, record profits are being announced and then we're told it's nt to do with hgher prices, yeah right.

The interest rate is high to try and get inflation down, as long as the corporates keep profiteering, inflation won't drop. Oil prices, the OPEC goons could pump more but they are restricting supply to keep prices artificially high.


If it is doing better then inflation should fall but I suspect they will want to make more money from us, noticed the fuel has crept up over the last few weeks.
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UK Economy on 17:11 - Sep 4 with 2625 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 16:18 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2

If it is doing better then inflation should fall but I suspect they will want to make more money from us, noticed the fuel has crept up over the last few weeks.


As I said, it's profiteering. The Saudi's are pumping below their OPEC quota which is having the effect of reducing supply and forcing prices up, not forgetting the whole Russian thing,

https://www.reuters.com/busine
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UK Economy on 18:54 - Sep 4 with 2592 viewsmajorraglan

UK Economy on 17:11 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

As I said, it's profiteering. The Saudi's are pumping below their OPEC quota which is having the effect of reducing supply and forcing prices up, not forgetting the whole Russian thing,

https://www.reuters.com/busine


Which is why we need to end our reliance on their oil. It’s going to take time, but we should be diversifying and moving over to other sources of energy. Starmer previously mentioned a sovereign wealth fund wind generating electricity supply, if it was big enough that could help keep prices down a bit.
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UK Economy on 18:59 - Sep 4 with 2590 viewsSullutaCreturned

UK Economy on 18:54 - Sep 4 by majorraglan

Which is why we need to end our reliance on their oil. It’s going to take time, but we should be diversifying and moving over to other sources of energy. Starmer previously mentioned a sovereign wealth fund wind generating electricity supply, if it was big enough that could help keep prices down a bit.


None of the utilities should ever have been privatise, they should all have been run as not for profit and used to keep prices down.

Ending our reliance on oil is going to take us well past 2030.
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UK Economy on 19:26 - Sep 4 with 2571 viewstrampie

UK Economy on 18:59 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

None of the utilities should ever have been privatise, they should all have been run as not for profit and used to keep prices down.

Ending our reliance on oil is going to take us well past 2030.


"don't keep writing the UK off because it suits your agenda?", you say and then complain that 'none of the utilities should ever have been privatised'.

This seems like 'trolling', arguing for one thing and then in the next breath arguing the opposite.

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UK Economy on 15:46 - Sep 5 with 2508 viewscontroversial_jack

UK Economy on 18:54 - Sep 4 by majorraglan

Which is why we need to end our reliance on their oil. It’s going to take time, but we should be diversifying and moving over to other sources of energy. Starmer previously mentioned a sovereign wealth fund wind generating electricity supply, if it was big enough that could help keep prices down a bit.


Nothing can replace fossil fuel. Electricity is fine, but i need gas for my heating and cooking
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