| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:01 - Oct 19 with 703 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:33 - Oct 19 by jackrmee |
I can’t comment on the cartoons or statusss you mention, but one major problem is, criticising Israel is now somehow classed as anti-Semitic |
The guardian cartoonist caricatured Netenyahu with exaggerated features cutting a pound of flesh out of himself in the shape of the Gaza Strip.
Atal posted a video by an Islamic hate preacher demanding god sends all Jews everywhere very dark days.
Alicia Keys tweeted a photo of herself dressed all in green and suggested she wants to go paragliding all of a sudden.
None of these are legitimate criticisms of Israel. They are aimed at Jews specifically. I could almost forgive the cartoonist as I’m a huge fan of that sort of art and satire in general and I don’t agree with any sort of cancel culture but that imagery of Jewish people being sly,sneaky and covetous has been around for millennia and the guardian should know better. |  |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:07 - Oct 19 with 695 views | Gwyn737 |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:01 - Oct 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The guardian cartoonist caricatured Netenyahu with exaggerated features cutting a pound of flesh out of himself in the shape of the Gaza Strip.
Atal posted a video by an Islamic hate preacher demanding god sends all Jews everywhere very dark days.
Alicia Keys tweeted a photo of herself dressed all in green and suggested she wants to go paragliding all of a sudden.
None of these are legitimate criticisms of Israel. They are aimed at Jews specifically. I could almost forgive the cartoonist as I’m a huge fan of that sort of art and satire in general and I don’t agree with any sort of cancel culture but that imagery of Jewish people being sly,sneaky and covetous has been around for millennia and the guardian should know better. |
Here's the new front cover of Private Eye that seems to be causing a lot of upset:
I can't see what's wrong with it. To my mind it's calling out Hamas' atrocities out whilst alsocalling out the the Israli govenment (not Jews).
It's being called anti-semitic but I can't see it. What (if anything) am I missing? |  | | |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:10 - Oct 19 with 689 views | Scotia |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:07 - Oct 19 by Gwyn737 |
Here's the new front cover of Private Eye that seems to be causing a lot of upset:
I can't see what's wrong with it. To my mind it's calling out Hamas' atrocities out whilst alsocalling out the the Israli govenment (not Jews).
It's being called anti-semitic but I can't see it. What (if anything) am I missing? |
I think that's a great cover. I see nothing wrong with it. | | | |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:13 - Oct 19 with 685 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:10 - Oct 19 by Scotia |
I think that's a great cover. I see nothing wrong with it. |
Why not
Israel stick to international border and Arabs s
Leave Israel alone ,which means no tunnels ,no sending in killers to butcher kids at a concert . | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:16 - Oct 19 with 686 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:07 - Oct 19 by Gwyn737 |
Here's the new front cover of Private Eye that seems to be causing a lot of upset:
I can't see what's wrong with it. To my mind it's calling out Hamas' atrocities out whilst alsocalling out the the Israli govenment (not Jews).
It's being called anti-semitic but I can't see it. What (if anything) am I missing? |
Nope that’s perfectly good satire which highlights the lunacy of the whole thing. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:20 - Oct 19 with 684 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:01 - Oct 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The guardian cartoonist caricatured Netenyahu with exaggerated features cutting a pound of flesh out of himself in the shape of the Gaza Strip.
Atal posted a video by an Islamic hate preacher demanding god sends all Jews everywhere very dark days.
Alicia Keys tweeted a photo of herself dressed all in green and suggested she wants to go paragliding all of a sudden.
None of these are legitimate criticisms of Israel. They are aimed at Jews specifically. I could almost forgive the cartoonist as I’m a huge fan of that sort of art and satire in general and I don’t agree with any sort of cancel culture but that imagery of Jewish people being sly,sneaky and covetous has been around for millennia and the guardian should know better. |
Going by your points there:
Guardian guy doesn’t sound aimed at all Jews. It sounds directed exactly at Israel’s leader and directly regarding Gaza.
Second one sounds out of order and anti semitic yeah.
Alicia keys one could go either way, so I can see what you mean yeah. |  |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:22 - Oct 19 with 684 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:07 - Oct 19 by Gwyn737 |
Here's the new front cover of Private Eye that seems to be causing a lot of upset:
I can't see what's wrong with it. To my mind it's calling out Hamas' atrocities out whilst alsocalling out the the Israli govenment (not Jews).
It's being called anti-semitic but I can't see it. What (if anything) am I missing? |
This is my point mate. Criticising Israel is not anti semitic.
I haven’t called anyone anti Islamic, because they criticise Hamas. I criticise them myself, yet I support the Palestinian people in their fight against occupation. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:25 - Oct 19 with 683 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:13 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
Why not
Israel stick to international border and Arabs s
Leave Israel alone ,which means no tunnels ,no sending in killers to butcher kids at a concert . |
I agree mate.
But the tunnels and hamas wouldn’t even exist if Israel were being fair | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:06 - Oct 19 with 653 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:25 - Oct 19 by jackrmee |
I agree mate.
But the tunnels and hamas wouldn’t even exist if Israel were being fair |
No.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth .
It’s policy.
Israel will not give up its land
That’s why we have an impasse
Millions of Jews have gone to America to escape persecution
Supporting mother Russia means a hatred of all things America,as is obvious.
It’s a God awful affair .
It would be better if the Muslims realised there is no paradise to go to after death
The Jews that the Messiah will not be coming .
Ergo,both are deluded . | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:12 - Oct 19 with 641 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:06 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
No.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth .
It’s policy.
Israel will not give up its land
That’s why we have an impasse
Millions of Jews have gone to America to escape persecution
Supporting mother Russia means a hatred of all things America,as is obvious.
It’s a God awful affair .
It would be better if the Muslims realised there is no paradise to go to after death
The Jews that the Messiah will not be coming .
Ergo,both are deluded . |
It’s not Israel’s land though, it’s stolen land.
They were given land and they continue to take more and more each day. They kill and bulldoze and steal, illegally, so it’s not their land, never mind how much they think God said it is.
Both may be deluded, but I don’t believe the conflict is mainly about religion at all | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:17 - Oct 19 with 627 views | trampie |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 12:13 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
Why not
Israel stick to international border and Arabs s
Leave Israel alone ,which means no tunnels ,no sending in killers to butcher kids at a concert . |
No it's the Israelis kill Arabs and their children (particularly their children), it's the Israelis need to leave the Arabs alone, go and check the figures. [Post edited 19 Oct 2023 13:23]
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:19 - Oct 19 with 638 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:17 - Oct 19 by trampie |
No it's the Israelis kill Arabs and their children (particularly their children), it's the Israelis need to leave the Arabs alone, go and check the figures. [Post edited 19 Oct 2023 13:23]
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:27 - Oct 19 with 629 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:06 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
No.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth .
It’s policy.
Israel will not give up its land
That’s why we have an impasse
Millions of Jews have gone to America to escape persecution
Supporting mother Russia means a hatred of all things America,as is obvious.
It’s a God awful affair .
It would be better if the Muslims realised there is no paradise to go to after death
The Jews that the Messiah will not be coming .
Ergo,both are deluded . |
Did you watch the Gabor Mate video mate?
He’s a Jew and holocaust survivor. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:40 - Oct 19 with 625 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:06 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
No.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth .
It’s policy.
Israel will not give up its land
That’s why we have an impasse
Millions of Jews have gone to America to escape persecution
Supporting mother Russia means a hatred of all things America,as is obvious.
It’s a God awful affair .
It would be better if the Muslims realised there is no paradise to go to after death
The Jews that the Messiah will not be coming .
Ergo,both are deluded . |
Here is another video for you. Only 8mins.
It’s an acting Rabbi who explains that it IS actually the zionists who are causing the conflict and he comes out in support of the Palestinian people against the “viscious zionists”.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gI | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 15:24 - Oct 19 with 573 views | BryanSwan |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 13:06 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
No.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth .
It’s policy.
Israel will not give up its land
That’s why we have an impasse
Millions of Jews have gone to America to escape persecution
Supporting mother Russia means a hatred of all things America,as is obvious.
It’s a God awful affair .
It would be better if the Muslims realised there is no paradise to go to after death
The Jews that the Messiah will not be coming .
Ergo,both are deluded . |
I dont think it is quite so simple, especially when no other countries seemingly want to involve themselves in the conflict other than with the provision of weapons.
Israel need to return the taken lands to the families displaces and hard borders need to be drawn for both states.
Hamas and IDF/Israeli government are as bad as each other. Rile up hate and kill innocents. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 15:39 - Oct 19 with 555 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 15:24 - Oct 19 by BryanSwan |
I dont think it is quite so simple, especially when no other countries seemingly want to involve themselves in the conflict other than with the provision of weapons.
Israel need to return the taken lands to the families displaces and hard borders need to be drawn for both states.
Hamas and IDF/Israeli government are as bad as each other. Rile up hate and kill innocents. |
Here here!
Palestinian people are innocent.
As are non Zionist Jews.
The ones you mention, plus the Zionists are the perpetrators. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 16:13 - Oct 19 with 524 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 15:39 - Oct 19 by jackrmee |
Here here!
Palestinian people are innocent.
As are non Zionist Jews.
The ones you mention, plus the Zionists are the perpetrators. |
I don't think it's right to group all Zionists together. |  |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 16:40 - Oct 19 with 499 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 15:24 - Oct 19 by BryanSwan |
I dont think it is quite so simple, especially when no other countries seemingly want to involve themselves in the conflict other than with the provision of weapons.
Israel need to return the taken lands to the families displaces and hard borders need to be drawn for both states.
Hamas and IDF/Israeli government are as bad as each other. Rile up hate and kill innocents. |
In this way it is.
The Middle East is Holy Land to three main religions
Land promised by God himself.
Trouble is those pesky indigenous Palestinians were there .
They had to move out because it was “ Jewish” land .
Palestinians rightly passed off not helped by Israelis taking other God promised land.
When they pray to that WIking Wall it makes yiu wonder exactly what they are praying for.
Same with Muslims praying five times a day ,to do what exactly.
This is a cursed land | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 19:25 - Oct 19 with 457 views | BryanSwan |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 16:40 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
In this way it is.
The Middle East is Holy Land to three main religions
Land promised by God himself.
Trouble is those pesky indigenous Palestinians were there .
They had to move out because it was “ Jewish” land .
Palestinians rightly passed off not helped by Israelis taking other God promised land.
When they pray to that WIking Wall it makes yiu wonder exactly what they are praying for.
Same with Muslims praying five times a day ,to do what exactly.
This is a cursed land |
Religion eh, who have it?
It seems completely mad to me that these people supposedly believe in a god and everything that goes with it, but killing thousands doesn't somehow go against their religions. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 20:14 - Oct 19 with 440 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 19:25 - Oct 19 by BryanSwan |
Religion eh, who have it?
It seems completely mad to me that these people supposedly believe in a god and everything that goes with it, but killing thousands doesn't somehow go against their religions. |
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It is about God,how to worship him,what he wants, how to morale,how to pray,how to live .
How to live…
I give you Jehovah witnesses , Mormons , Christian scientists who live their lives to the letter of the Laws of the Bible .
All taken in,all polluted with warped nihilism | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 08:56 - Oct 20 with 386 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 16:13 - Oct 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I don't think it's right to group all Zionists together. |
Ok, maybe you’re right. I apologise for my ignorance on the depths Zionism. Maybe I need to learn more about the different sects. Could you enlighten me or point me in the right direction please?
The point I was trying to make though, is that there’s a difference. And being against the Zionist movement and the way they want to take “their” land back, doesn’t mean you have to be against Judaism or any decent Jewish people. It’s not antisemitism! Are they even real Jews? Doesn’t seem like it to me. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:10 - Oct 20 with 367 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 08:56 - Oct 20 by jackrmee |
Ok, maybe you’re right. I apologise for my ignorance on the depths Zionism. Maybe I need to learn more about the different sects. Could you enlighten me or point me in the right direction please?
The point I was trying to make though, is that there’s a difference. And being against the Zionist movement and the way they want to take “their” land back, doesn’t mean you have to be against Judaism or any decent Jewish people. It’s not antisemitism! Are they even real Jews? Doesn’t seem like it to me. |
It’s “ their” land as laid down in the Torah.
It’s why they fight for it | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:28 - Oct 20 with 350 views | jackrmee |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:10 - Oct 20 by onehunglow |
It’s “ their” land as laid down in the Torah.
It’s why they fight for it |
Yes, but not all Jews agree that they take their land back now. Many/most believe that they will get their land when the lord returns (or whatever).
But either way, there are differences between Jews and Zionist (so called) Jews.
Being against the way these people act is not antisemitic.
Mate I know I’m not against Jews and I like Jewish people, so it winds me up when I get called antisemite.
I’m not and I know I’m not. You can’t make me into one just because I say 1 word in a sentence or am sarcastic about God or whatever, it’s ridiculous.
Being called antisemite, is the same as being called racist or homophobic and I am none of those things. I love everyone and would bring any of these people into my home.
People trying to tar others and taint them because of opinions is bad. Hence why I got my back up on here.
Did you watch those couple of short vids I posted mate?
They are only short ones.
I’d be interested to hear what you think about them.
They are by real Jews. One a Rabbi and the other a famous holocaust survivor. Dr Mate is one of my favourite humans and I have almost all his books (nothing to do with politics or religion). I have the utmost respect for him. | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:31 - Oct 20 with 348 views | onehunglow |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:28 - Oct 20 by jackrmee |
Yes, but not all Jews agree that they take their land back now. Many/most believe that they will get their land when the lord returns (or whatever).
But either way, there are differences between Jews and Zionist (so called) Jews.
Being against the way these people act is not antisemitic.
Mate I know I’m not against Jews and I like Jewish people, so it winds me up when I get called antisemite.
I’m not and I know I’m not. You can’t make me into one just because I say 1 word in a sentence or am sarcastic about God or whatever, it’s ridiculous.
Being called antisemite, is the same as being called racist or homophobic and I am none of those things. I love everyone and would bring any of these people into my home.
People trying to tar others and taint them because of opinions is bad. Hence why I got my back up on here.
Did you watch those couple of short vids I posted mate?
They are only short ones.
I’d be interested to hear what you think about them.
They are by real Jews. One a Rabbi and the other a famous holocaust survivor. Dr Mate is one of my favourite humans and I have almost all his books (nothing to do with politics or religion). I have the utmost respect for him. |
That’s a fair reply
I’m glad we ve avoided name calling.
I stand by every word, notwithstanding . | |
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| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:40 - Oct 20 with 338 views | trampie |
| France bans pro Palestine demonstrations on 09:28 - Oct 20 by jackrmee |
Yes, but not all Jews agree that they take their land back now. Many/most believe that they will get their land when the lord returns (or whatever).
But either way, there are differences between Jews and Zionist (so called) Jews.
Being against the way these people act is not antisemitic.
Mate I know I’m not against Jews and I like Jewish people, so it winds me up when I get called antisemite.
I’m not and I know I’m not. You can’t make me into one just because I say 1 word in a sentence or am sarcastic about God or whatever, it’s ridiculous.
Being called antisemite, is the same as being called racist or homophobic and I am none of those things. I love everyone and would bring any of these people into my home.
People trying to tar others and taint them because of opinions is bad. Hence why I got my back up on here.
Did you watch those couple of short vids I posted mate?
They are only short ones.
I’d be interested to hear what you think about them.
They are by real Jews. One a Rabbi and the other a famous holocaust survivor. Dr Mate is one of my favourite humans and I have almost all his books (nothing to do with politics or religion). I have the utmost respect for him. |
Same with me, I've never discriminated against anyone in my life and I never would, I always do what I can to help people, I take offence at what Scotia is calling me.
It's shutting down debate because people will be afraid to speak freely about what's happening in the Middle East. | |
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