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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British 06:09 - Mar 19 with 9528 viewsAnotherJohn

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Could it be the case that the policies that our Home Secretary has put forward - which many thought showed Labour was finally smelling the coffee - will never be enacted because of the strength of the Left in the Parliamentary Labour Party?
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 13:27 - Mar 20 with 1463 viewsWingstandwood

And with perfect timing to coincide with my previous post on this topic, there is
today’s South Wales Evening Post business section on page 39. And to think idiots want to tactically vote for a Labour/Green/SNP/Plaid coalition.

It says that a fifth of British entrepreneurs are expected to leave the U.K in the next 12 months as confidence in the U.K government sinks to new lows.

Add that to those that have all ready left, and just think how bad things will be if the U.K had another Labour government in 2029. Another four year term is really something to look forward to?
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Argus!

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 17:17 - Mar 20 with 1379 viewsWingstandwood

And with even more perfect timing! U.K border chief quits!

Argus!

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 18:09 - Mar 20 with 1364 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 06:08 - Mar 20 by felixstowe_jack

We have a new oil and gas field that the company developing it says could be producing gas and oil by September.

They are STILL waiting for Ed Milliband to sign of permission for them do it despite the war in the Gulf.


What positive impact would you say this would have for the UK?
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:02 - Mar 20 with 1339 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 18:09 - Mar 20 by Gwyn737

What positive impact would you say this would have for the UK?


Have a look at the video posted in this thread by Wingstand.

The truth has come out in that we are importing fracked gas which is worse for the environment than North Sea Gas at a cost higher than we would pay for North Sea Gas.

Why? We don't have to count it as part of our carbon footprint because we don't produce it!

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:17 - Mar 20 with 1335 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:02 - Mar 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Have a look at the video posted in this thread by Wingstand.

The truth has come out in that we are importing fracked gas which is worse for the environment than North Sea Gas at a cost higher than we would pay for North Sea Gas.

Why? We don't have to count it as part of our carbon footprint because we don't produce it!


It would be sold on the global market for Market prices. It wouldn't raise revenue really or lower prices. Same for oil.

It may make some money through taxation but the effect on bills would be negligable.

Many have written on here the big mistake Gordon Brown made on selling off gold but it's nothing compared to what we could have got for keeping hold or North Sea rights.

Look at what Denmark have achieved with a sovereign wealth fund.

They're flogging thiers off and generating about 90% of their energy from renewables.

I get the concerns around net zero but to think the answer is to 'drill baby, drill' isn't helpful either.
[Post edited 20 Mar 19:31]
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:40 - Mar 20 with 1315 viewsDemitrius

Listen to the flower people....


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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:50 - Mar 20 with 1304 viewsWingstandwood

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:40 - Mar 20 by Demitrius

Listen to the flower people....




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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 23:12 - Mar 20 with 1249 viewsonehunglow

Smoke more dope folks

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 01:50 - Mar 21 with 1220 viewsRobbie

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 12:55 - Mar 20 by pencoedjack

The US company I work whose European headquarters was once in Bridgend (prior to merger) now has its European headquarters in Poland.

Last time I was in Warsaw the building work going on there was something to behold.

Before we had scrounging, rapists migrants flocking into our country we had hard working Poles coming here to earn some decent coin


LLanelli whilst I was working down there had a large influx of Polish immigrants .

Many of them came to work at work at a meat packing factory in Cross Hands .
Dawnhust or some other name it is called now though , jobs some people in the area had no intention of applying for the vacancies there .

Rumours abounded The Poles were drinking vodka at 5.00 am before the minibus arrived to pick them up , never proven in my experience down in Turkland .

Were they totally accepted in an area so close knit , maybe not get the welcome expected .

I found them OK and no issue with real needy true assylum seekers who do it properly .

The English Channel small boats issue, good luck with that a hiding to nothing from all sides

Give me a Politician who does get it right will get my vote .

The Sennedd now claims Wales is a Nation of Sanctuary for all incomers .
I rest my case My Lord .
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 12:02 - Mar 21 with 1176 viewsmax936

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 01:50 - Mar 21 by Robbie

LLanelli whilst I was working down there had a large influx of Polish immigrants .

Many of them came to work at work at a meat packing factory in Cross Hands .
Dawnhust or some other name it is called now though , jobs some people in the area had no intention of applying for the vacancies there .

Rumours abounded The Poles were drinking vodka at 5.00 am before the minibus arrived to pick them up , never proven in my experience down in Turkland .

Were they totally accepted in an area so close knit , maybe not get the welcome expected .

I found them OK and no issue with real needy true assylum seekers who do it properly .

The English Channel small boats issue, good luck with that a hiding to nothing from all sides

Give me a Politician who does get it right will get my vote .

The Sennedd now claims Wales is a Nation of Sanctuary for all incomers .
I rest my case My Lord .


Castell Howell its called these days Robbie, they virtually supply meat etc everywhere.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 14:05 - Mar 21 with 1159 viewsDr_Winston

The abbatoir/meat packers I think was called Oriel Jones.

Castell Howell do frozen foods and have been there for donkeys years.

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:27 - Mar 21 with 1121 viewsAnotherJohn

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:17 - Mar 20 by Gwyn737

It would be sold on the global market for Market prices. It wouldn't raise revenue really or lower prices. Same for oil.

It may make some money through taxation but the effect on bills would be negligable.

Many have written on here the big mistake Gordon Brown made on selling off gold but it's nothing compared to what we could have got for keeping hold or North Sea rights.

Look at what Denmark have achieved with a sovereign wealth fund.

They're flogging thiers off and generating about 90% of their energy from renewables.

I get the concerns around net zero but to think the answer is to 'drill baby, drill' isn't helpful either.
[Post edited 20 Mar 19:31]


There are regional prices rather than a global price for natural gas, associated with the various trading hubs - the UK NBP, the Dutch TTF, the US Henry hub etc. As far as I understand things, there are advantages if production is within a region where the gas is consumed. North Sea oil production would be better for us that importing from the Middle East, the USA or Russia. The other thing is that there is a big difference between the wholesale price and the retail price, with Miliband's policies having a big impact on the latter.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 06:33 - Mar 22 with 1092 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:27 - Mar 21 by AnotherJohn

There are regional prices rather than a global price for natural gas, associated with the various trading hubs - the UK NBP, the Dutch TTF, the US Henry hub etc. As far as I understand things, there are advantages if production is within a region where the gas is consumed. North Sea oil production would be better for us that importing from the Middle East, the USA or Russia. The other thing is that there is a big difference between the wholesale price and the retail price, with Miliband's policies having a big impact on the latter.


There are some benefits but it’s not the silver bullet some think.

I think the drive for net zero if too fast and pretty ham fisted bit the idea that our energy security and price control is buried in the North Sea is for the birds.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 06:34 - Mar 22 with 1091 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:27 - Mar 21 by AnotherJohn

There are regional prices rather than a global price for natural gas, associated with the various trading hubs - the UK NBP, the Dutch TTF, the US Henry hub etc. As far as I understand things, there are advantages if production is within a region where the gas is consumed. North Sea oil production would be better for us that importing from the Middle East, the USA or Russia. The other thing is that there is a big difference between the wholesale price and the retail price, with Miliband's policies having a big impact on the latter.


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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:15 - Mar 22 with 1042 viewsAnotherJohn

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 06:34 - Mar 22 by Gwyn737

Down arrowed by mistake. Fat fingers!


You are forgiven. The board would be poorer without you.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:24 - Mar 22 with 1037 viewsmax936

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 14:05 - Mar 21 by Dr_Winston

The abbatoir/meat packers I think was called Oriel Jones.

Castell Howell do frozen foods and have been there for donkeys years.


I thought Castell Howell supplied fresh meat to Supermarkets and independent Butchers, I didn't know that they only deal in frozen foods.

Did a job at one of their buildings probably 18 months 2 years ago, may even be longer, spent more time getting permission to go site than I did doing the job, even then I was chaperoned
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:29 - Mar 22 with 1030 viewsDr_Winston

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:24 - Mar 22 by max936

I thought Castell Howell supplied fresh meat to Supermarkets and independent Butchers, I didn't know that they only deal in frozen foods.

Did a job at one of their buildings probably 18 months 2 years ago, may even be longer, spent more time getting permission to go site than I did doing the job, even then I was chaperoned


They do a bit of everything in terms of food supply, but their biggest market a few years ago was frozen stuff.

I remember the abbatoir in that neck of the woods because they always had problems getting staff until the Poles came over. They were forever advertising.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 17:10 - Mar 24 with 919 viewsWingstandwood

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 19:02 - Mar 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Have a look at the video posted in this thread by Wingstand.

The truth has come out in that we are importing fracked gas which is worse for the environment than North Sea Gas at a cost higher than we would pay for North Sea Gas.

Why? We don't have to count it as part of our carbon footprint because we don't produce it!



Argus!

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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 18:50 - Mar 24 with 884 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 17:10 - Mar 24 by Wingstandwood



How much do you think out gas prices would drop if more gas was taken from the North sea?
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 20:18 - Mar 24 with 862 viewsonehunglow

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 18:50 - Mar 24 by Gwyn737

How much do you think out gas prices would drop if more gas was taken from the North sea?


With respect, nobody could answer that
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 20:25 - Mar 24 with 858 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 20:18 - Mar 24 by onehunglow

With respect, nobody could answer that
It’s like when clowns post, “ who would you play/ choose/drop / buy
We’re all basically observers


Yes you can.

The gas goes on the global market and would make somewhere between a £15 and £80 reduction on an annual bill.

I assume the multinational licensees would benefit rather well.

In the meantime sensible countries are forging ahead with renewables and nuclear.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 09:49 - Mar 25 with 796 viewsAnotherJohn

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 20:25 - Mar 24 by Gwyn737

Yes you can.

The gas goes on the global market and would make somewhere between a £15 and £80 reduction on an annual bill.

I assume the multinational licensees would benefit rather well.

In the meantime sensible countries are forging ahead with renewables and nuclear.


The gas market is complicated and I'm not sure this is correct on some points. Natural gas from the UK North Sea sector goes directly into the UK national gas grid (National Transmission System) and about 55% of this is consumed in the UK. Therefore an increase in supply could potentially affect the price in the UK trading hub. This virtual hub uses a National Balancing Point to trade gas entering or leaving the NTS. UK North Sea gas accounts for about 50% of UK gas consumption, with most of the rest of piped gas entering the UK coming from Norway (so from the Norwegian sector of the North Sea). The remaining imported gas is LNG, mostly from the USA and Qatar, and is more expensive. The UK currently exports about 45% of North Sea gas via the NTS and interconnector pipe to Belgium or Holland, and I believe that is priced according to the NBP trades made by the overseas buyer. UK piped gas cannot practically be sold to far away international destinations in the way that LNG can, so most of any increase in gas production would be used in the UK rather than literally sold on the international market. I suppose the issue is how far the NBP price might change in the shadow of international market prices in the various regional trading hubs. Possibly this could be influenced by government regulation of the production companies and how much gas they can export by inter-connector pipe to take advantage of higher offers from European buyers.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:37 - Mar 25 with 769 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 09:49 - Mar 25 by AnotherJohn

The gas market is complicated and I'm not sure this is correct on some points. Natural gas from the UK North Sea sector goes directly into the UK national gas grid (National Transmission System) and about 55% of this is consumed in the UK. Therefore an increase in supply could potentially affect the price in the UK trading hub. This virtual hub uses a National Balancing Point to trade gas entering or leaving the NTS. UK North Sea gas accounts for about 50% of UK gas consumption, with most of the rest of piped gas entering the UK coming from Norway (so from the Norwegian sector of the North Sea). The remaining imported gas is LNG, mostly from the USA and Qatar, and is more expensive. The UK currently exports about 45% of North Sea gas via the NTS and interconnector pipe to Belgium or Holland, and I believe that is priced according to the NBP trades made by the overseas buyer. UK piped gas cannot practically be sold to far away international destinations in the way that LNG can, so most of any increase in gas production would be used in the UK rather than literally sold on the international market. I suppose the issue is how far the NBP price might change in the shadow of international market prices in the various regional trading hubs. Possibly this could be influenced by government regulation of the production companies and how much gas they can export by inter-connector pipe to take advantage of higher offers from European buyers.


I don’t see how the increase in gas production would be used in the UK market.

The UK market is privatised and fully integrated into the European network, any new gas produced in the UK North Sea is owned by private companies. These companies will sell that gas to the highest bidder—which is often in Europe via the interconnectors—rather than selling it at a discount to the UK market. Therefore, increased production does not automatically guarantee lower prices for UK.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 15:08 - Mar 25 with 738 viewsAnotherJohn

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 11:37 - Mar 25 by Gwyn737

I don’t see how the increase in gas production would be used in the UK market.

The UK market is privatised and fully integrated into the European network, any new gas produced in the UK North Sea is owned by private companies. These companies will sell that gas to the highest bidder—which is often in Europe via the interconnectors—rather than selling it at a discount to the UK market. Therefore, increased production does not automatically guarantee lower prices for UK.


I'd say that the international market is pretty limited because British gas that is exported needs to be piped via the UK National Transmission System, now owned (unfortunately) by Macquarie Asset Management. As I mentioned before about 45% of gas from the British North Sea sector is exported, and that is traded via the UK NBP hub. The European system comprises a series of trading hubs (like the Dutch TTF or Belgian Zeebrugge), so i wouldn't describe it as fully integrated - it is more like a UK system interacting with an EU system. There are inward interconnectors to the UK from Norway and bidirectional interconnectors to/from Belgium, the Netherlands and Ireland. Nearly half of the gas the UK sells goes to Ireland, nearly 30% to the Netherlands and most of the rest to Belgium. The reason why exports are attractive to neighbours is that the UK cannot store much gas and so it is often sold abroad at discounted prices. Having said that, France and Germany have in the past bought very little British gas. Quite a lot of the exported gas is converted from LNG. As the UK has a about a fifth of the European capacity for re-gasification it is probably seen by the companies concerned as a route into European countries that cannot process LNG. So I still think any increase in North Sea gas production will mostly end up in the British Isles, and mostly the UK. Russia was the EU's largest gas supplier and it is possible that the move away from this due to sanctions might increase demand for UK gas elsewhere in Europe, but that has not been a big thing in the past.
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Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 17:28 - Mar 25 with 709 viewsGwyn737

Ange says that tougher policies on immigration are un-British on 15:08 - Mar 25 by AnotherJohn

I'd say that the international market is pretty limited because British gas that is exported needs to be piped via the UK National Transmission System, now owned (unfortunately) by Macquarie Asset Management. As I mentioned before about 45% of gas from the British North Sea sector is exported, and that is traded via the UK NBP hub. The European system comprises a series of trading hubs (like the Dutch TTF or Belgian Zeebrugge), so i wouldn't describe it as fully integrated - it is more like a UK system interacting with an EU system. There are inward interconnectors to the UK from Norway and bidirectional interconnectors to/from Belgium, the Netherlands and Ireland. Nearly half of the gas the UK sells goes to Ireland, nearly 30% to the Netherlands and most of the rest to Belgium. The reason why exports are attractive to neighbours is that the UK cannot store much gas and so it is often sold abroad at discounted prices. Having said that, France and Germany have in the past bought very little British gas. Quite a lot of the exported gas is converted from LNG. As the UK has a about a fifth of the European capacity for re-gasification it is probably seen by the companies concerned as a route into European countries that cannot process LNG. So I still think any increase in North Sea gas production will mostly end up in the British Isles, and mostly the UK. Russia was the EU's largest gas supplier and it is possible that the move away from this due to sanctions might increase demand for UK gas elsewhere in Europe, but that has not been a big thing in the past.


Even if the gas does end up in the uk market, I don’t see a significant drop happening to our bill.

If we had held on to the licenses (and BP) it would be different.
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