| Our World Cup coverage 17:58 - May 25 with 80498 views | KeithHaynes | Keep the comments on the competition here folks š Our Swedish writer Olle Sƶderholm will be the man right in the middle of this years reports. Opening fixtures. Thursday, June 11: Group A: Mexico vs. South Africa (Mexico City), 1 p.m. local / 3 p.m. ET Group A: South Korea vs. Czechia (Zapopan, Mexico), 8 p.m. local / 10 p.m. ET Friday, June 12: Group B: Canada vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina (Toronto), 3 p.m. ET Group D: United States vs. Paraguay (Inglewood, Calif.), 6 p.m. local / 9 p.m. ET Saturday, June 13: Group B: Qatar vs. Switzerland (Santa Clara, Calif.), noon local / 3 p.m. ET Group C: Brazil vs. Morocco (East Rutherford, New Jersey), 6 p.m. ET Group C: Haiti vs. Scotland (Foxborough, Mass.), 9 p.m. ET Group D: Australia vs. Türkiye (Vancouver, Canada), 9 p.m. local / 12 a.m. ET (June 14) Sunday, June 14: Group E: Germany vs. CuraƧao (Houston), noon local / 1 p.m. ET Group F: Netherlands vs. Japan (Arlington, Texas), 3 p.m. local / 4 p.m. ET Group E: Ivory Coast vs. Ecuador (Philadelphia), 7 p.m. ET Group F: Sweden vs. Tunisia (Guadalupe, Mexico), 8 p.m. local / 10 p.m. ET The real World Cup squad. Free the 56
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| Our World Cup coverage on 13:30 - Jul 16 with 1961 views | GixerJack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 12:36 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | Thank you so much for that riposte Today I am reading utter xxxx from Welsh people It makes me feel ashamed Itās ok though because some gog farmers caught the boat from Liverpool to buy cheap land They spoke Welsh Thatās it Hereās a country with a history of right wing vicious dictatorships where major Nazis found shelter and solace Hereās a country that worship Peron Hereās a country who killed Welsh boys Not enoughā¦. Hereās a country where cheating is part of culture Itās a day of shame for Wales English oppression I read Banned by great great great grandparents from speaking Welsh etc Our real identity and nature is gossamer thin and we need to find a way of moving on as clearly we havenāt , we donāt seemingly want to We actually prefer to watch England lose England play them at rugby this weekend so same the eh whilst wales face a South African team who will humiliate us again in a world sport |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 13:38 - Jul 16 with 1928 views | RichardO | England in that first half were the better team stifled Argentinian play high up the pitch and cut the supply to the forwards defenders were allowed to show how to handle the opposition attackers the team blocking off paths though the middle and down the wingst Second half England didn't cut out that supply lines down the wings and dropped too deep in the middle of the park.Result midfielders able to attack aerial balls in the box or have time to shoot from the edge of the box. After the early warning signs in that second half England persisted in gaving up any possession high up the pitch leaving quality strikers in Kane and Bellingham having to feed off scraps and asking them to play defensively. You cannot leave teams of any sort the time to constantly get balls into the box into dangerous areas. Going all defensive against some teams can work but mot a team with quality players. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 13:53 - Jul 16 with 1873 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 13:30 - Jul 16 by GixerJack | In the absence of anyone else doing itā¦. šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 16:14 - Jul 16 with 1759 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Our World Cup coverage on 12:36 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | Thank you so much for that riposte Today I am reading utter xxxx from Welsh people It makes me feel ashamed Itās ok though because some gog farmers caught the boat from Liverpool to buy cheap land They spoke Welsh Thatās it Hereās a country with a history of right wing vicious dictatorships where major Nazis found shelter and solace Hereās a country that worship Peron Hereās a country who killed Welsh boys Not enoughā¦. Hereās a country where cheating is part of culture Itās a day of shame for Wales English oppression I read Banned by great great great grandparents from speaking Welsh etc Our real identity and nature is gossamer thin and we need to find a way of moving on as clearly we havenāt , we donāt seemingly want to We actually prefer to watch England lose England play them at rugby this weekend so same the eh whilst wales face a South African team who will humiliate us again in a world sport |
Argentinian politics goes like this: The countryside outnumbers the major towns and it votes solid Peronist (left). When the countryside bothers to vote the Peronists get in, they loot the economy and bankrupt the place, Kirchner was reckoned by the Americans to be taking .1% of all govt. income and .07% of all out goings. For herself and her friends. The economy goes bankrupt, the countryside gets discouraged and doesn't vote, the major towns vote in conservatives who breath life back into the economy again. When things have recovered a bit, the countryside feels better about things and votes the Peronists back in. Rinse, repeat. Any Argentinian, the first question is where do they come from. It makes a big difference. Messi is from Rosario which is OK, I think. Just a point, if the Argies have a solid claim to the Falklands, then we do indeed have a better claim to Patagonia. It's huge place, a glorious place, I'd swap. But we have no such claim, obviously, and neither do they. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:20 - Jul 16 with 1746 views | swan_si |
| Our World Cup coverage on 20:56 - Jul 15 by Whiterockin | Where do you think the saying "Argi Bargi" came from. |
Argy-bargyĀ was a late nineteenth-century modification of a Scots phrase, which appeared early in the same century in the formĀ argle-bargle. The first part of this older version was a modification ofĀ argue. The second parts of the two forms,Ā bargleĀ andĀ bargy, never had any independent existence ā they are no more than nonsense rhyming repetitions of the first elements. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:24 - Jul 16 with 1723 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:14 - Jul 16 by RodgerTheDodger | Argentinian politics goes like this: The countryside outnumbers the major towns and it votes solid Peronist (left). When the countryside bothers to vote the Peronists get in, they loot the economy and bankrupt the place, Kirchner was reckoned by the Americans to be taking .1% of all govt. income and .07% of all out goings. For herself and her friends. The economy goes bankrupt, the countryside gets discouraged and doesn't vote, the major towns vote in conservatives who breath life back into the economy again. When things have recovered a bit, the countryside feels better about things and votes the Peronists back in. Rinse, repeat. Any Argentinian, the first question is where do they come from. It makes a big difference. Messi is from Rosario which is OK, I think. Just a point, if the Argies have a solid claim to the Falklands, then we do indeed have a better claim to Patagonia. It's huge place, a glorious place, I'd swap. But we have no such claim, obviously, and neither do they. |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 16:33 - Jul 16 with 1716 views | Whiterockin |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:24 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | But Falklanders want to remain British |
Thats because they are mostly of British decent. It was uninhabited until the British arrived there in the 1800s. Can you really just stick a flag somewhere and claim it. Apologies for diverting the thread. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:35 - Jul 16 with 1716 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Our World Cup coverage on 12:36 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | Thank you so much for that riposte Today I am reading utter xxxx from Welsh people It makes me feel ashamed Itās ok though because some gog farmers caught the boat from Liverpool to buy cheap land They spoke Welsh Thatās it Hereās a country with a history of right wing vicious dictatorships where major Nazis found shelter and solace Hereās a country that worship Peron Hereās a country who killed Welsh boys Not enoughā¦. Hereās a country where cheating is part of culture Itās a day of shame for Wales English oppression I read Banned by great great great grandparents from speaking Welsh etc Our real identity and nature is gossamer thin and we need to find a way of moving on as clearly we havenāt , we donāt seemingly want to We actually prefer to watch England lose England play them at rugby this weekend so same the eh whilst wales face a South African team who will humiliate us again in a world sport |
Just another point on what you say. The Welsh identity is not 'gossamer thin'. Come to South Wales from outside and the culture is strong and clear. Unmistakable. Ditto mid Wales and the Gogs, different again, unmistakable and strongly Welsh. But ... it is completely ignored by officialdom because the only Welsh identity they value is the language. I suspect being ignored keeps it healthy, the dead hand of bureaucracy might prove fatal. The difference is Cardiff. Having lived in a lot places it is very clearly a bit of England dropped into Wales, trying desperately to be Welsh, and failing. Probably not if you go out in the suburbs, but Roath and Pontcanna are certainly not Welsh. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:37 - Jul 16 with 1711 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:24 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | But Falklanders want to remain British |
As I said. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:47 - Jul 16 with 1684 views | onehunglow |
This game will have profound consequences when we visit West Ham , Millwall and Wolves , for example |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 17:59 - Jul 16 with 1642 views | max936 |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:12 - Jul 15 by union_jack | And the knives are out already. That said, Tuchel got it horribly wrong not just at the end but most of the game. England gave Argentina too much space, too much time on the ball and it was just a matter of when not if. |
Better side first half Messi hardly got a kick, 2nd half has expected of course Argentina came out of the blocks their play was quicker their pressing increased and Tuchel was filling his pants and went 5 at the back and Messi came alive, England were lucky that the Argies didn't score more, MaCallister hit the post twice John Stones ball watching then moved forward to the ball, giving Martinez acres of space Englands left back should have closed in on Martinez instead of standing off him. Hope Spain smash them though parading around with that banner was disgraceful. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 18:08 - Jul 16 with 1634 views | max936 |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:16 - Jul 16 by Whiterockin | Not even the bridesmaid, they will struggle to beat France on Saturday. If it wasn't going to be hard enough a days less rest and confidence is on the floor, they will need a lot of luck to win. |
They won't beat France, France won't play like they played against Spain Mbappe hardly got a kick in that game, with the French coach calling it a day after the tournament he'll have them right up for it. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 18:44 - Jul 16 with 1602 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 18:08 - Jul 16 by max936 | They won't beat France, France won't play like they played against Spain Mbappe hardly got a kick in that game, with the French coach calling it a day after the tournament he'll have them right up for it. |
Not sure about that French looked utterly disinterested England plain dumb Time to have a drink outside and look at the northern lights |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 19:31 - Jul 16 with 1580 views | shingle | Seeing as this outcome mostly always happens when English or for that matter British teams get near the winning line and when it really matters they implode, it is a mental weakness trait that previous winners are able to overcome but us Brits just do not have it as is proven time and time again; even when English teams win the champions league the team is full of players from other countries we just have that weak mentality, it is what it is. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 19:34 - Jul 16 with 1579 views | KeithHaynes |
| Our World Cup coverage on 19:31 - Jul 16 by shingle | Seeing as this outcome mostly always happens when English or for that matter British teams get near the winning line and when it really matters they implode, it is a mental weakness trait that previous winners are able to overcome but us Brits just do not have it as is proven time and time again; even when English teams win the champions league the team is full of players from other countries we just have that weak mentality, it is what it is. |
I really cannot see how any English footballer being made a millionaire a month can have the required mentality as we see in other sports. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 21:38 - Jul 16 with 1495 views | trampie | And breathe England were second best against Mexico and Norway on the balance of play so it would have been unbelievable if they were able to fluke another one but thankfully it was a step too far this time. If I was English I would regard their World cup as a failure, 4 professional leagues (5 now I suppose with the conference or whatever its called), birthplace of the game, all the money that's in the game, a large population, yet they have failed again, to have just 1 disputed World cup 60 years ago and no Euro titles and no Nations league titles over the decades is a dreadful return in England's case and this tournament was yet another missed opportunity for them. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 21:53 - Jul 16 with 1487 views | trampie | Here we are just found this after my previous post from an England pundit and fan, England had everything in their favour but failed again, personally i am not just having a go at England because I'm Welsh and want them to lose but if I was English I would be very disappointed yet again that they have won nothing, its unbelievable that with all their resources they come up short time and time again. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 23:13 - Jul 16 with 1421 views | trampie | Just seenTim Vickery and Henry Winter two of the top footie journalists around saying it was all there for England, that they really did blow it big time. [Post edited 16 Jul 23:14]
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| Our World Cup coverage on 09:45 - Jul 17 with 1318 views | union_jack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 23:13 - Jul 16 by trampie | Just seenTim Vickery and Henry Winter two of the top footie journalists around saying it was all there for England, that they really did blow it big time. [Post edited 16 Jul 23:14]
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Theyāre wrong! They werenāt good enough and need to accept this. Iām not going to play along with your agenda because itās based on an insecure, chip on your shoulder attitude seen by many small minded Welsh people *and others) of similar backgrounds to your good self. But I will say objectively as an English fan that they were not good enough to win the WC. In fact there were only two good performances in the competition against Croatia and Mexico and those could have gone either way late into the games. If the media and FA take a step back, accept the shortcomings that is so evident in the England set up and start to instil an attitude that just turning up is not enough then maybe, just maybe theyāll win something. It will require a complete change in mindset from media, FA and fans alike though. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 10:35 - Jul 17 with 1299 views | raynor94 |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:45 - Jul 17 by union_jack | Theyāre wrong! They werenāt good enough and need to accept this. Iām not going to play along with your agenda because itās based on an insecure, chip on your shoulder attitude seen by many small minded Welsh people *and others) of similar backgrounds to your good self. But I will say objectively as an English fan that they were not good enough to win the WC. In fact there were only two good performances in the competition against Croatia and Mexico and those could have gone either way late into the games. If the media and FA take a step back, accept the shortcomings that is so evident in the England set up and start to instil an attitude that just turning up is not enough then maybe, just maybe theyāll win something. It will require a complete change in mindset from media, FA and fans alike though. |
I agree with you England weren't good enough but the substitutions were farcical you can't expect to defend and hold out for 45 minutes against the quality of Argentina It has blown out of the water that Tuchel is some tactical genius, and to leave Foden Palmer and Trent out of the squad was criminal in my opinion |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 11:17 - Jul 17 with 1279 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 16:35 - Jul 16 by RodgerTheDodger | Just another point on what you say. The Welsh identity is not 'gossamer thin'. Come to South Wales from outside and the culture is strong and clear. Unmistakable. Ditto mid Wales and the Gogs, different again, unmistakable and strongly Welsh. But ... it is completely ignored by officialdom because the only Welsh identity they value is the language. I suspect being ignored keeps it healthy, the dead hand of bureaucracy might prove fatal. The difference is Cardiff. Having lived in a lot places it is very clearly a bit of England dropped into Wales, trying desperately to be Welsh, and failing. Probably not if you go out in the suburbs, but Roath and Pontcanna are certainly not Welsh. |
I disagree with you but you present your views brilliantly Argentina claimed the islands when Spain give Argentina independence They have no rights to it whatsoever Whatās more to the point 99.8% Falklanders want to remain as British , ergo OUR people whom some want to dump |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 12:18 - Jul 17 with 1239 views | howenjack | They had one foot in the final with just half an hour to go. 30 mins to last out until their first final since 66! They could not do it and the spotlight has to be on the manager for that .What was he saying to the players ??? Sir Alf would have said "You've scored once now go and score again !!" Michael Owen hit the nail on the head with his assessment saying they were pub team tactics !! |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 13:23 - Jul 17 with 1191 views | union_jack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 11:17 - Jul 17 by onehunglow | I disagree with you but you present your views brilliantly Argentina claimed the islands when Spain give Argentina independence They have no rights to it whatsoever Whatās more to the point 99.8% Falklanders want to remain as British , ergo OUR people whom some want to dump |
Just remember R, the banner they paraded on Wednesday was the same one they flew in Port Stanley in 1982. The only difference is that one didnāt have any writing in it. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 14:46 - Jul 17 with 1147 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 13:23 - Jul 17 by union_jack | Just remember R, the banner they paraded on Wednesday was the same one they flew in Port Stanley in 1982. The only difference is that one didnāt have any writing in it. |
Indeed We have so many that should be full of shame O read , Swansea woman, on Facebook, saying her contempt for England based on oppression of Welsh people leading to the Gogs catching a boat from Liverpool to Argentina 150 yrs ago The past eh Itās not much to hang on to |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 17:00 - Jul 17 with 1110 views | trampie |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:45 - Jul 17 by union_jack | Theyāre wrong! They werenāt good enough and need to accept this. Iām not going to play along with your agenda because itās based on an insecure, chip on your shoulder attitude seen by many small minded Welsh people *and others) of similar backgrounds to your good self. But I will say objectively as an English fan that they were not good enough to win the WC. In fact there were only two good performances in the competition against Croatia and Mexico and those could have gone either way late into the games. If the media and FA take a step back, accept the shortcomings that is so evident in the England set up and start to instil an attitude that just turning up is not enough then maybe, just maybe theyāll win something. It will require a complete change in mindset from media, FA and fans alike though. |
No agenda, England are historically poor and are still underachieving, English media think they are great but the 'key performance indicators' prove they are not great at all, I wish the broadcast media would realise they are broadcasting to the whole of the UK when they come out with their biased nonsense. |  |
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