| Shocking scenes in belfast 08:51 - Jun 9 with 15247 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Video doing the rounds of an African migrant attempting to behead a bloke in the street last night. Luckily some brave fellows were able to stop him in time although reports suggest serious injuries have been inflicted.
Not going to post it on here for obvious reasons but it’s bloody awful. |  |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:40 - Jun 11 with 1283 views | controversial_jack |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:42 - Jun 11 by Robbie |
Spineless Starmer again taking the plaudits for chucking the protestors into jail asap .
Pity he does not take the same actions on the murderers and baddies walking the streets and take the same get them locked up , or maybe not offend other demographics .
Seems like get a cheapie flight Paris to Dublin , walk into the non existent border controls and end up in the UK , why bother with the small boats way in .
Time to switch off GB News for now methinks . [Post edited 11 Jun 1:56]
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This attacker came here under the last govt, which has been mentioned on here already |  | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast (n/t) on 09:41 - Jun 11 with 1283 views | controversial_jack |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:15 - Jun 11 by 1983 |
Starmer is a joke the man is deluded and lives in a fanasty world no wonder Farage & Tommy Robinson are so popular.
Him jailing these people asap is like starting an arsonist starting a big fire and then applauding the fire brigade.
Starmer reminds me of that scene on a Carry on film where they are all having this big banquet where the bombs are dropping all around them and they just keep eating and drinking as if nothing is happening 😂 [Post edited 11 Jun 9:27]
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:42 - Jun 11 with 1283 views | controversial_jack |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:15 - Jun 11 by 1983 |
Starmer is a joke the man is deluded and lives in a fanasty world no wonder Farage & Tommy Robinson are so popular.
Him jailing these people asap is like starting an arsonist starting a big fire and then applauding the fire brigade.
Starmer reminds me of that scene on a Carry on film where they are all having this big banquet where the bombs are dropping all around them and they just keep eating and drinking as if nothing is happening 😂 [Post edited 11 Jun 9:27]
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i'm not sure Starmer has the power to jail anyone, i thought it was judges and magistrates.
Do you want to rethink your last post? [Post edited 11 Jun 9:43]
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:45 - Jun 11 with 1252 views | onehunglow |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:15 - Jun 11 by 1983 |
Starmer is a joke the man is deluded and lives in a fanasty world no wonder Farage & Tommy Robinson are so popular.
Him jailing these people asap is like starting an arsonist starting a big fire and then applauding the fire brigade.
Starmer reminds me of that scene on a Carry on film where they are all having this big banquet where the bombs are dropping all around them and they just keep eating and drinking as if nothing is happening 😂 [Post edited 11 Jun 9:27]
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I’m amazed poverty hasn’t been mentioned
Normally in riots it’s the fundamental cause
It’s always been a lie
These chaps live boring meaningless lives with no father around and a mother that will fornicate at will for a bigger house
Chucking objects at police is fun for them , trust me
It’s a massive buzz to set things alight
They get off on it
That simple
Meanwhile , our cities actually make plans to accept more illegals and to make them feel happy to be here
Think on that then cry yourself a river
We are handing our country over
Nobody of sound mind should vote Green , plaid or Lim Dem | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:53 - Jun 11 with 1238 views | controversial_jack |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:45 - Jun 11 by onehunglow |
I’m amazed poverty hasn’t been mentioned
Normally in riots it’s the fundamental cause
It’s always been a lie
These chaps live boring meaningless lives with no father around and a mother that will fornicate at will for a bigger house
Chucking objects at police is fun for them , trust me
It’s a massive buzz to set things alight
They get off on it
That simple
Meanwhile , our cities actually make plans to accept more illegals and to make them feel happy to be here
Think on that then cry yourself a river
We are handing our country over
Nobody of sound mind should vote Green , plaid or Lim Dem |
I believe the ones being targeted in Belfast by these right wing thugs are here legally, It's not about immigration , never has been, it's purely about race. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 11 with 1194 views | Scotia |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:15 - Jun 11 by 1983 |
Starmer is a joke the man is deluded and lives in a fanasty world no wonder Farage & Tommy Robinson are so popular.
Him jailing these people asap is like starting an arsonist starting a big fire and then applauding the fire brigade.
Starmer reminds me of that scene on a Carry on film where they are all having this big banquet where the bombs are dropping all around them and they just keep eating and drinking as if nothing is happening 😂 [Post edited 11 Jun 9:27]
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This is nothing to do with Starmer. The jailing of people after widespread disorder has been around for ages, before the Southport related disorder it had been used following the 2011 Summer riots:-
https://publications.parliamen
Farrage and SYL are popular becasue they are playing to their crowd and their naivety. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 11 with 1197 views | onehunglow |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:53 - Jun 11 by controversial_jack |
I believe the ones being targeted in Belfast by these right wing thugs are here legally, It's not about immigration , never has been, it's purely about race. |
I agree it’s not about immigration
It’s simply an excuse to get onto the streets
It relieves the tedium of a humdrum life in a still divided part of the country | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:36 - Jun 11 with 1176 views | Scotia |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 08:37 - Jun 11 by AnotherJohn |
I thought your wording that the conviction "is very minor" was misleading, and actually I think many on your usual side of the argument would agree. |
I don't have a side of an argument. I'm just not on the "right".
I also think it's a little contradictory that SYL is advocating for someone with a domestic abuse conviction and a conviction for elbowing his mother in the face when a lot of the time he uses slogans like "protect our women". [Post edited 11 Jun 10:40]
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:44 - Jun 11 with 1172 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 06:46 - Jun 11 by AnotherJohn |
I don't think tweets like the one cited are a good idea, but equally if you want to describe something "for what it is", I'm not sure that I would characterize a police officer's persistent sexual harassment of a 14 year old girl followed by denial and a not guilty plea as "minor" offending. Let forum members judge for themselves.
https://www.cityoflondon.polic [Post edited 11 Jun 6:47]
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It's not about the severity of the offences, it's the way both of them were presented to suggest two tier justice.
Do you think the way the treat was framed was deliberate race-baiting? | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:51 - Jun 11 with 1163 views | 1983 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:40 - Jun 11 by controversial_jack |
This attacker came here under the last govt, which has been mentioned on here already |
Good job Starmer and his mob stopped that then.....oh hang on |  |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 11:29 - Jun 11 with 1137 views | 1983 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:42 - Jun 11 by controversial_jack |
i'm not sure Starmer has the power to jail anyone, i thought it was judges and magistrates.
Do you want to rethink your last post? [Post edited 11 Jun 9:43]
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Go on then I'll take the bait this once
Are you totally happy where we are as a country and with the current party/ PM? | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 13:28 - Jun 11 with 1079 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 11 by onehunglow |
I agree it’s not about immigration
It’s simply an excuse to get onto the streets
It relieves the tedium of a humdrum life in a still divided part of the country |
Yes you are probably right. The old man wherever he is these days loved a good riot as well.
The Sudan monster will probably go to Wakefield for a long spell to join 630 other monsters. 630 men who did appalling things most indigenous British and very few instigated a riot. He can reflect on that when he meets his new mates who might not take to kindly to him for being famous for a week or two. |  |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:09 - Jun 11 with 1055 views | AnotherJohn |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:44 - Jun 11 by Gwyn737 |
It's not about the severity of the offences, it's the way both of them were presented to suggest two tier justice.
Do you think the way the treat was framed was deliberate race-baiting? |
I don't like SYL and thought the tweet is misguided because it compares apples and oranges. It is just that, in criticizing the kind of hyperbole SYL goes in for, it is important not to downplay the seriousness of a nasty case in order to give one's argument more weight. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:17 - Jun 11 with 1041 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:09 - Jun 11 by AnotherJohn |
I don't like SYL and thought the tweet is misguided because it compares apples and oranges. It is just that, in criticizing the kind of hyperbole SYL goes in for, it is important not to downplay the seriousness of a nasty case in order to give one's argument more weight. |
I didn't downplay it and wouldn't downplay it.
I'd say what SYL shared is worse than comparing apples to oranges as what he presented isn't even a true apple or orange!
As I said, it's race-baiting/rage-baiting.
Him, Musk ans their like are accountable in part for the injured police, burnt buses. torched houses and frightened hospital staff.
As Dem said earlier, the monster with the knife deserves the most severe punishment, as do the rioters. [Post edited 11 Jun 15:48]
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 15:48 - Jun 11 with 1012 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:17 - Jun 11 by Gwyn737 |
I didn't downplay it and wouldn't downplay it.
I'd say what SYL shared is worse than comparing apples to oranges as what he presented isn't even a true apple or orange!
As I said, it's race-baiting/rage-baiting.
Him, Musk ans their like are accountable in part for the injured police, burnt buses. torched houses and frightened hospital staff.
As Dem said earlier, the monster with the knife deserves the most severe punishment, as do the rioters. [Post edited 11 Jun 15:48]
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I don’t condone rioting or vigilantism at all. But the tension and anger is palpable. When we are seeing these horrific events unfold almost on a daily basis perpetrated by people who should never be here in the first place and are met by the same tepid response from weak government and inconsistent policing that anger will inevitably go somewhere. Absolutely nothing has or is being done to get to the root of this problem. Disorder is the only result when elected governments don’t/wont listen or act. | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 16:24 - Jun 11 with 991 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 15:48 - Jun 11 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t condone rioting or vigilantism at all. But the tension and anger is palpable. When we are seeing these horrific events unfold almost on a daily basis perpetrated by people who should never be here in the first place and are met by the same tepid response from weak government and inconsistent policing that anger will inevitably go somewhere. Absolutely nothing has or is being done to get to the root of this problem. Disorder is the only result when elected governments don’t/wont listen or act. |
But the anger we're seeing isn't useful. Burning the wrong person's house or harassing a nurse due to the colour of her skin isn't going to change anything.
Do you really thing those attacking police on the streets pf Belfast are frightened patriots?
Change has to come from the ballot box. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 16:49 - Jun 11 with 968 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 16:24 - Jun 11 by Gwyn737 |
But the anger we're seeing isn't useful. Burning the wrong person's house or harassing a nurse due to the colour of her skin isn't going to change anything.
Do you really thing those attacking police on the streets pf Belfast are frightened patriots?
Change has to come from the ballot box. |
I didn’t say it was useful I said it was inevitable.
Change comes at the ballot box? In a perfect world yes you’re correct but when 90% of the mainstream parties are ideologically guided towards letting in as many people as possible then the ballot box is not capable of changing anything. Labour and the Tories have been in charge for the last century and done nothing. The Greens and Plaid seem happy to let absolutely anyone and everyone in as long as they aren’t Jewish. The Lib Dems are probably too busy riding rollercoasters, bouncing on trampolines and jumping in rivers to put a coherent policy forward but you get the feeling they are fairly apathetic towards immigration and they don’t really want any sort of action on border control or violent crime.
Reform and Restore talk the talk but I wouldn’t trust half of them as far as I could throw them.
I don’t know where we go from here? | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:01 - Jun 11 with 962 views | Dr_Winston |
If change came at the ballot box then we wouldn't have had about 30 years worth of Governments who have consistently increased immigration despite obvious and measured public opposition to doing so, and promising to do so in their manifestos.
Change is obviously not going to come at the ballot box, so it is inevitable that certain sections of society will try to force it another way. I genuinely don't understand why some people expect anything else to happen. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:19 - Jun 11 with 947 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:01 - Jun 11 by Dr_Winston |
If change came at the ballot box then we wouldn't have had about 30 years worth of Governments who have consistently increased immigration despite obvious and measured public opposition to doing so, and promising to do so in their manifestos.
Change is obviously not going to come at the ballot box, so it is inevitable that certain sections of society will try to force it another way. I genuinely don't understand why some people expect anything else to happen. |
How do you think it will be successful?
Restore are promising to go the furthest. If that’s the will of the people they’ll be voted in. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:39 - Jun 11 with 920 views | max936 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:01 - Jun 11 by Dr_Winston |
If change came at the ballot box then we wouldn't have had about 30 years worth of Governments who have consistently increased immigration despite obvious and measured public opposition to doing so, and promising to do so in their manifestos.
Change is obviously not going to come at the ballot box, so it is inevitable that certain sections of society will try to force it another way. I genuinely don't understand why some people expect anything else to happen. |
This 100%, the left always think they have the answers, they've not had an answer correct yet.
Starmer and his fellow goons have no plans to change things, that much is obvious, bonking Boris was no different either he opened the doors nice and wide. |  | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:56 - Jun 11 with 902 views | shingle |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:36 - Jun 10 by Scotia |
You haven't explained anything.
Please tell me how Labour stopped any of Braverman's immigration policies. Off you go. |
By voting against them you dimwit and if you think saying please will in anyway distract the fact you have been outed as a clueless bloke by not just me but many others on here than you are clearly mistaken. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:05 - Jun 11 with 897 views | shingle |
Starmer and his cronies are only interested in taking action against the reaction and not the cause even though they and the Tory government before them are the cause. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:18 - Jun 11 with 873 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 17:01 - Jun 11 by Dr_Winston |
If change came at the ballot box then we wouldn't have had about 30 years worth of Governments who have consistently increased immigration despite obvious and measured public opposition to doing so, and promising to do so in their manifestos.
Change is obviously not going to come at the ballot box, so it is inevitable that certain sections of society will try to force it another way. I genuinely don't understand why some people expect anything else to happen. |
We have had 30 year of immigration to keep the economy ticking over.
Romanians pick our fruit and vegetable. Middle easterner and Italians open restaurants. Iraqi Kurds open barber shops (paying rates and rent). Black African work in care homes. Slavic women work in hotels. Bugarians work on building sites. Poles work as mechanics and on building sites as well as electricians. Bangladeshis open restaurants and takeawys and trade in cars. There are out working us . Foreign owned places will not employ Welsh /Brits as the cannot work properly.
If we as Brits take the easy life of no qualification and benefits the government has no choice. | |
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| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:28 - Jun 11 with 862 views | Gwyn737 |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:05 - Jun 11 by shingle |
Starmer and his cronies are only interested in taking action against the reaction and not the cause even though they and the Tory government before them are the cause. |
I’m happy the government are prosecuting thugs who burn down the property of innocent people. | | | |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:48 - Jun 11 with 841 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:18 - Jun 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
We have had 30 year of immigration to keep the economy ticking over.
Romanians pick our fruit and vegetable. Middle easterner and Italians open restaurants. Iraqi Kurds open barber shops (paying rates and rent). Black African work in care homes. Slavic women work in hotels. Bugarians work on building sites. Poles work as mechanics and on building sites as well as electricians. Bangladeshis open restaurants and takeawys and trade in cars. There are out working us . Foreign owned places will not employ Welsh /Brits as the cannot work properly.
If we as Brits take the easy life of no qualification and benefits the government has no choice. |
One choice is to significantly slash benefits and force the lazy bone idle feckless Jeremy Kyle show scrounger generations who use the welfare system not as a safety net but as a lifestyle choice back into work. This will free up more money for the people who genuinely need help off the state who have genuine disability or illness and actually need it.
They choose not to do that though. | |
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