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Here we go again 18:18 - Sep 16 with 2719 views

Prices were already rising, Trump's Iranian adventure and the ongoing war in Ukraine has caused much trouble and now the Yemen Houthis have chioped in with their nonsense,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art

Here we go again on 06:25 - Sep 18 with 778 views

Scotia

Here we go again on 00:42 - Sep 18 by JJBomber
Iran closed it, Trump reopened it.

It was fully open in February, petrol was about 50p a litre cheaper. It was closed by Iran in March. Why do you think that is?

It may be claimed by the US that it's open. It's not. You only have to look in a petrol station forecourt to see that.

Or here.

https://straits.live/

Here we go again on 06:29 - Sep 18 with 768 views

Scotia

Here we go again on 01:17 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

Trump attacked to stop Iran building nuclear weapons, as he has said repeatedly. The IRGC have consistently said they want to end America and Israel. They have been attacking Americans since they took over in 1979, if your old enough to remember that embassy hostage situation.
Speaking of the Guardian, they are one of the ones behind the latest propaganda film. Also funded by Qatar and Turkey. You can believe them if you want to.

He did that in June 2025 didn't he?

edit - typo

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Here we go again on 08:02 - Sep 18 with 734 views

Togg

Here we go again on 06:29 - Sep 18 by Scotia
He did that in June 2025 didn't he? edit - typo [Post edited 18 Sep 8:03]

Fuel up inflation up. Looks like interest rates could follow. Welcome to rip off UK.
Never known everything to be so expensive.

Here we go again on 11:27 - Sep 18 with 646 views

SullutaCreturned

Here we go again on 20:19 - Sep 17 by ReslovenSwan1

Isreal is the local agitator and has destabilized numerous Arab countries facilitating the rise of radical factions in Iraq Syria and Libya.

The idea is to destabilise and trigger civil wars such that these state become dysfunctional and unable to harm Isreal. They destroy infrastructure leading to refugees which Europe accepted under Merkel. The tide has turned on this.

Isreal persuaded Trump to launch an attack the was not prepared to back up with the US army on the ground. There would be few Islamicists in UK and Europe if Isreal respected its borders and did not interfere.

Israel is complicit and their big backrs are...the USA.

Here we go again on 14:36 - Sep 18 with 602 views

SullutaCreturned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art

Here we go again on 17:11 - Sep 18 with 549 views

JJBomber

Here we go again on 06:25 - Sep 18 by Scotia
It was fully open in February, petrol was about 50p a litre cheaper. It was closed by Iran in March. Why do you think that is? It may be claimed by the US that it's open. It's not. You only have to look in a petrol station forecourt to see that. Or here. https://straits.live/

There's about 14 million barrels a day going through the Strait, down from 20 million. The main shortage at the moment is caused by the Houthis blocking Saudi shipping in the Red Sea. If Europe really wanted cheaper oil, it just has to help end terrorism. It won't. It was closed as part of Iran's economic war against 'Big Satan and Little Satan'. Ironically, neither of those two take oil from the Straits of Hormuz.
So why is Europe so keen on keeping terrorism going? Elections! Israel go to the polls in October, while the USA has the mid-terms in November. If Europe can keep the war going, it increases the vote for the Looney Left.

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Here we go again on 18:02 - Sep 18 with 507 views

Scotia

Here we go again on 17:11 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

It's about 8 million, so roughly 70% less than usual. The Saudi pipeline has a capcity of less than 4 million a day.

The rest of thst is just mind blowing MAGA guff, so Trump has started something he cant finish and needs tge help of NATO?

Here we go again on 18:23 - Sep 18 with 501 views

majorraglan

Here we go again on 17:11 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

Commercial trackers and shipping companies estimate the flow through the straights of Hormuz is 2m bpd, industry analysts say the August average was around 7.6m bpd while the US government estimates the figure is 18-20mn bpd. Most of the flow through the straights of Hormuz goes east to Asia with China, India, South Korea, Japan the bid consumers. With the Houthi’s kicking off and potentially closing part of the Red Sea access supply will only get tighter.

President Trump has linked Ukrainian activities against Russian refineries for the rise in the price of diesel, while there will be some substance to that the conflict with Iran is also a major contributory factor.

Here we go again on 20:22 - Sep 18 with 468 views

JJBomber

Here we go again on 18:02 - Sep 18 by Scotia
It's about 8 million, so roughly 70% less than usual. The Saudi pipeline has a capcity of less than 4 million a day. The rest of thst is just mind blowing MAGA guff, so Trump has started something he cant finish and needs tge help of NATO?

Er, that Saudi pipeline has been bombed, hence the current spike in prices.
Trump doesn't need NATO. The Palestinians and Israeli Defensive Force are doing well in Gaza. Two top Hamas commanders were taken out this week. Lebanon and the Israeli Defence Force is driving Hezbollah out of Lebanon. There is United nation Security Council Resolution 17 01, which the UN have totally failed to implement. Maybe they'll grow a pair and now join in. Either way, Lebanon will be returned to peace shortly. Iran is on the brink of a civil war, with the Kurds rising up as well as the Iranian public in the South East. It's all looking very good.

Here we go again on 20:27 - Sep 18 with 465 views

max936

Here we go again on 20:22 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

Hope you are right, we need an end to these conflicts in the middle east, the Ukraine Russian war as well, but I think that could be be a long way off, unfortunately.

Here we go again on 20:30 - Sep 18 with 463 views

Gwyn737

Here we go again on 20:22 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

Y’know the way Contro use to talk about Russia…

Here we go again on 20:57 - Sep 18 with 456 views

SullutaCreturned

Here we go again on 01:17 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

Iran closed it because Trump attacked them. If you are listening to Trump then IKNOW for 100% certainty where you are getting your propaganda.

Iran didn't have nuclear weapons, there was an agreement since Obama that the evidence says they were sticking to it. They have started rebuilding the development facility but the USA's own intelligence says that the NEW leadership (which came in because of Trump killing the old leader) is more open to trying to build nukes so Trump has caused the very problem he claimed he was trying to fix. He was warned of this last February,

https://www.independent.co.uk/

It has been Western arrogance that triggered a lot of the attacks from that area. We have interfered far too much, the CIA has run almost constant operations designed to cause regime change, not just in the far East either. It was the imposition of the Shah on an otherwise peaceful country. In 1953 the Shah (Pahlavi) was "restored" to power in a joint CIA/British intelligence operation and that led to the problems we see today. Mossadegh was a democratically elected Prime Minister overthrown by Western interference and arrogance.

The problem here is you believe Trump when even the majority of Americans have seen through him,

https://www.economist.com/inte

You call the |BBC propaganda, dismiss the Guardian, which media do you believe, Truth Social maybe?
The USA has attacked others far more than it has been attacked, the wars, military conflicts and proxy attacks are in the hundreds for the military alone, never mind the CIA and proxies.

Trump is an aggressor, he claims to have stopped wars but he is a proven liar and the wars he has "stopped" all had clear financial gains for the USA,

https://www.prio.org/comments/

If you choose to believe Trump there is no point in further debate because I wouldn't trust him if he said water was wet.
It is still a provable fact though thatHormuz was closed because the USA attacked Iran and that caused the spike in oil prices.

Here we go again on 22:36 - Sep 18 with 432 views

JJBomber

Here we go again on 20:57 - Sep 18 by SullutaCreturned

I don't bother listening to Trump, as his output is aimed firmly at the IRGC. The problem seems to be that people in the West think he is talking to them.

Here we go again on 23:24 - Sep 18 with 415 views

Scotia

Here we go again on 20:22 - Sep 18 by JJBomber

It's not a current spike in prices. The prices spiked when Trump bombed Iran in March, completely failed and now Iran are holding the world to ransom.

The Saudi pipeline could open tomorrow and perhaps fuel would reduce by 1p a litre. That isnt the problem.

Here we go again on 01:25 - Sep 19 with 391 views

Robbie

BBC reporting The Don has got control of Greenland now .

Denmark has caved in and handed over without a wimper or seems like asking the locals .

Security concerns for Uncle Sam incoming over The Atlantic , lets place some deterrents there and make World peace again .

Or a nice promise to Denmark , hey your our new bestie buddie forever now .

Here we go again on 08:03 - Sep 19 with 343 views

AnotherJohn

It isn't just the people near the bottom who are unhappy; the Government also seems to be driving away those who have the dosh. The Laffer Curve has real-world effects;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art

On another topic in the thread, I know we are all peed off with Trump, but some posters underestimate Iran's malign character. It didn't enrich uranium to 60% because it wanted to produce medical isotopes. Then there is its strategy of supporting proxies to dominate the Middle East. I think the West appeased Iran for too long. Kicking the can down the road did not work.

Here we go again on 08:37 - Sep 19 with 325 views

SullutaCreturned

Here we go again on 22:36 - Sep 18 by JJBomber
I don't bother listening to Trump, as his output is aimed firmly at the IRGC. The problem seems to be that people in the West think he is talking to them.

Well these are your words,

"Trump attacked to stop Iran building nuclear weapons, as he has said repeatedly."

And you appear to believe them.

The Saudi pipeline was attacked recently, on September 10th, oil prices have been rising, have been significantly higher since Trump bombed and Iran closed the Strait, that was February 28th, Trumps first strike this year and the Iranians responded quickly.

I have to ask now, if you're not listening to Trump and the MSM, where do you get your info from? Which website, news outlet or other media do you trust?

Here we go again on 09:28 - Sep 19 with 298 views

JJBomber

Here we go again on 23:24 - Sep 18 by Scotia
It's not a current spike in prices. The prices spiked when Trump bombed Iran in March, completely failed and now Iran are holding the world to ransom. The Saudi pipeline could open tomorrow and perhaps fuel would reduce by 1p a litre. That isnt the problem.

Saudi pipeline is out of action until the end of October.

Here we go again on 09:40 - Sep 19 with 289 views

JACKMANANDBOY

Here we go again on 01:25 - Sep 19 by Robbie
BBC reporting The Don has got control of Greenland now . Denmark has caved in and handed over without a wimper or seems like asking the locals . Security concerns for Uncle Sam incoming over The Atlantic , lets place some deterrents there and make World peace again . Or a nice promise to Denmark , hey your our new bestie buddie forever now .

A range of other outlets are reporting this as a security agreement rather than a handover of sovereignty. Of course, the agreement has not been published yet.

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	Besian Idrizaj Forever a Jack
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Here we go again on 09:56 - Sep 19 with 281 views

JACKMANANDBOY

Here we go again on 08:37 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned

The Shia and Sunni (Saudis and Houthis) war in Yemen has been going on since 2014, there are reportedly 400,000 people who have lost their lives and 4,000,000 people displaced.

There's been limited coverage and nothing in the way of demonstrations in the streets or allegations of ethnic cleansing and genocide from students, journalists, politicians etc. and very limited media coverage.

The Houthis attack a pipeline and suddenly everyone is outraged, too late, about 14 years too late.

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Here we go again on 11:05 - Sep 19 with 261 views

SullutaCreturned

Here we go again on 09:56 - Sep 19 by JACKMANANDBOY

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Well they are all Arabs so there is no ethnic cleansing. It's a religious and political war, genocide possibly depending on the aims of either side.

I'm hardly a fan of the Saudis and think it reprehensible that Western countries do so much business with them given their illegal acts on Western soil, their interference in our country (by setting up Muslim schools and teaching Salafism/Wahabism) which is breeding yet more Muslims with extremist ideology, all of this while claiming to be true Muslims yet embracing and enjoying the vast wealth they have built up and they do things strictly forbidden in Sharia such as making money from weapon sales.

And while it is very anecdotal, I once met 2 Saudis who were hiding from their mother, sat in a car park in a Lambo drinking Jack Daniels straight from the bottle. Their mother didn't approve of the alcohol her being a good Muslim but her 2 sons loved a drink, so they told me ( I was working at the time and was locking up so had to ask them to leave) and I know of a few Saudis who used to frequent the Valbonne, loving a drink and afterwards a gamble.

What is happening in Yemen is a civil war, it should be none of the Saudis business but it is Sunni versus Shia there too so the Saudis are backing up their religious brothers. Shia are approx 35% of Yemen. Again, it's not ethnic cleansing, it started in 2004 not to spread a religion, but as a reaction against political marginalization, economic neglect in northern Yemen, government corruption, and opposition to the Yemeni government's alliance with the United States but the Saudis joining in is as much religious as anything. They won't launch a full scale invasion because it would possibly be their Vietnam and it could escalate bringing Iran in and engulf the whole region. It is complicated but the Houthis may not have acted against oil pipelines if the USA had not attacked Iran.

Here we go again on 13:22 - Sep 19 with 215 views

JJBomber

Here we go again on 11:05 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned

How can it be a civil war? the commanders are led by the Quds forces and the money comes from the IRGC.

Here we go again on 13:30 - Sep 19 with 210 views

onehunglow

Here we go again on 11:05 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned

All religious adherents are hypocrites
Muslims amongst the biggest
Don’t drink alcohol but will sell it

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Here we go again on 13:46 - Sep 19 with 201 views

SullutaCreturned

Here we go again on 13:22 - Sep 19 by JJBomber
How can it be a civil war? the commanders are led by the Quds forces and the money comes from the IRGC.

It's a war between 2 segments of one country's pooukation, the Houthi's are fighting Yemeni government forces. |It's a civil war.

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