| French Economy in Trouble on 08:22 - Oct 12 with 1442 views | johnlangy |
| French Economy in Trouble on 18:40 - Oct 8 by Dr_Winston |
If the EU was capable of self-reflection it probably wouldn't exist in its current form. |
Restructure is the way it will go. The EU is already very different from 2016.
If they really do want the UK to rejoin that may be the extra push restructure needs otherwise we'll still say no/non/nein. |  | |  |
| French Economy in Trouble on 16:35 - Oct 12 with 1311 views | SullutaCreturned |
| French Economy in Trouble on 07:22 - Oct 12 by Dr_Winston |
Seems fairly obvious given the renewed emphasis on this Russian "interference" cobblers and the rushed attempts to overturn voter ID requirements that the stage is being set to bounce us back in via a dodgy referendum.
Seems that the same people who welcomed Barack Obama stating that an independent UK would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal in the event of Brexit, and spent millions sending pro-EU propaganda to every household now have a problem with Government intervention in a supposed demcratic vote. The problem for them is that they seem to have difficulty providing any actual evidence of it. |
Burnham says so and we should accept it, well I don't. Even if he produces proof I'll be cynically asking, who invented this?
All this yalk of intervention from forign actors, if the government had told us the truth in the first place we would never even have joined the EU because they KNEW, they knew political integration was part of the plan. They also knew the British people back then would never have gone for it. All those people who had fought in WW2, who had risked literally everything to keep this country sovereign would never have agreed to the EU.
Now we have young people screaming us older ones have screwed them while at the same time saying they wouldn't fight for this country if there was a war. They want all the good stuff without any of the effort and can't even see how ruined the country is.
Shall I liken it to those countries from where people flee to come here. One day soon people may be fleeing Europe if things aren't sorted out.
Russia is pushing hard, the USA is being crazy, the middle east is a tinderbox again. Where will people run to? | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 17:43 - Oct 12 with 1271 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| French Economy in Trouble on 07:22 - Oct 12 by Dr_Winston |
Seems fairly obvious given the renewed emphasis on this Russian "interference" cobblers and the rushed attempts to overturn voter ID requirements that the stage is being set to bounce us back in via a dodgy referendum.
Seems that the same people who welcomed Barack Obama stating that an independent UK would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal in the event of Brexit, and spent millions sending pro-EU propaganda to every household now have a problem with Government intervention in a supposed demcratic vote. The problem for them is that they seem to have difficulty providing any actual evidence of it. |
Foreign Secretary on the news earlier said that the Russian interference was “unsuccessful”.
I doubt our intelligence services are innocent when it comes to influencing elections around the world either. It’s the sort of thing I imagine every country does. When we do it it’s “diplomacy”. |  |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 18:43 - Oct 13 with 1120 views | SullutaCreturned |
| French Economy in Trouble on 17:43 - Oct 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Foreign Secretary on the news earlier said that the Russian interference was “unsuccessful”.
I doubt our intelligence services are innocent when it comes to influencing elections around the world either. It’s the sort of thing I imagine every country does. When we do it it’s “diplomacy”. |
Well Burnham has backtracked on his staement and MI5...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
Burnham is just lining up his reasons to overturn brexit even though the EU has plenty of problems too. | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 11:37 - Oct 14 with 1025 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| French Economy in Trouble on 18:43 - Oct 13 by SullutaCreturned |
Well Burnham has backtracked on his staement and MI5...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
Burnham is just lining up his reasons to overturn brexit even though the EU has plenty of problems too. |
Embarrassing for Burnham he’s only been in a few weeks and he’s already got MI5 and his own foreign secretary ‘fact correcting’ him. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 01:58 - Oct 18 with 804 views | Robbie |
Judging by news reporting this evening France is out of control and chaos ensue even now burning down Public Office Buildings .
Excuse me for being a cynic but are other factors involved in these riots are part of the bigger threat to France from unknown sources .
Marsaille seems to be an area viewed with caution if visiting , now Paris on the list too .
Could say the same about areas around me though , enter at your own personal risk . | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:28 - Oct 18 with 722 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| French Economy in Trouble on 01:58 - Oct 18 by Robbie |
Judging by news reporting this evening France is out of control and chaos ensue even now burning down Public Office Buildings .
Excuse me for being a cynic but are other factors involved in these riots are part of the bigger threat to France from unknown sources .
Marsaille seems to be an area viewed with caution if visiting , now Paris on the list too .
Could say the same about areas around me though , enter at your own personal risk . |
An old colleague of mine lives in Paris, she says social media has been awash with calls to take to the streets for the last few weeks. The far left politicians are stirring it up. |  |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 11:04 - Oct 18 with 685 views | Wingstandwood |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:28 - Oct 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
An old colleague of mine lives in Paris, she says social media has been awash with calls to take to the streets for the last few weeks. The far left politicians are stirring it up. |
Ahhhhhh the 'left', the ones who bang on about tolerance, and whom are more concerned about correct pronouns and language usage, whilst getting on a crusade using invisible-trip wire manufactured offence to further their warped beliefs.
But yet? Support societal catastrophe, illegal immigration, the abandonment of border control, and riots etc! And they seriously believe that they are the good guys! |  |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 11:57 - Oct 18 with 650 views | onehunglow |
| French Economy in Trouble on 11:04 - Oct 18 by Wingstandwood |
Ahhhhhh the 'left', the ones who bang on about tolerance, and whom are more concerned about correct pronouns and language usage, whilst getting on a crusade using invisible-trip wire manufactured offence to further their warped beliefs.
But yet? Support societal catastrophe, illegal immigration, the abandonment of border control, and riots etc! And they seriously believe that they are the good guys! |
They do Wingy
That said,we allow their trite shite to be taught in our schools
Our kids are being brainwashed before our very eyes
I’m glad my time on this planet is running out fast,seriously
We have forked it up and there’s no sign of insanity
It would be nice to hear the world say to Jews, No Palestine is not your birthright . You have been taught this by religious teaching in your Torah
Muslims , nah, there is no paradise,no burning hell and Mohammed doesn’t warrant respect from those who haven’t been taught as you | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 16:53 - Oct 18 with 590 views | Treforys_Jack |
Weird how the slogans on burnt out cars and shops were in English. |  | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 18:10 - Oct 18 with 567 views | JJBomber |
| French Economy in Trouble on 16:53 - Oct 18 by Treforys_Jack |
Weird how the slogans on burnt out cars and shops were in English. |
... while the flags were Tunisian, Moroccan and, you've guessed it, Palestinian. | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 18:22 - Oct 18 with 557 views | shingle |
Not yet but soon will be. | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 22:56 - Oct 18 with 489 views | JJBomber |
| French Economy in Trouble on 16:53 - Oct 18 by Treforys_Jack |
Weird how the slogans on burnt out cars and shops were in English. |
It's spread to Milan and Bologna now. Not long until it reaches London. | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 01:31 - Oct 19 with 453 views | AnotherJohn |
| French Economy in Trouble on 22:56 - Oct 18 by JJBomber |
It's spread to Milan and Bologna now. Not long until it reaches London. |
The view of the Spectator:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 01:53 - Oct 19 with 443 views | Robbie |
Sadly social media is the go to cause and justifaction these days for riots .
Common sense is now an idea long gone in Public thinking , lets follow whoever is cool .
Over to you Macron and the decision making on your policies , as the UK closest allies over the years of course , our besties in time of troubles .
Not getting GB News again but our new best friends cannot stop a few rubber boats .
Goodness knows how but total disorder in France is beyond belief . | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 08:31 - Oct 19 with 355 views | felixstowe_jack |
| French Economy in Trouble on 01:53 - Oct 19 by Robbie |
Sadly social media is the go to cause and justifaction these days for riots .
Common sense is now an idea long gone in Public thinking , lets follow whoever is cool .
Over to you Macron and the decision making on your policies , as the UK closest allies over the years of course , our besties in time of troubles .
Not getting GB News again but our new best friends cannot stop a few rubber boats .
Goodness knows how but total disorder in France is beyond belief . |
Unfortunately the EU is falling apart with its open borders etc.
When we left the EU our economy was small than France. Despite covid, the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Trumps war in Iran and two years of labour taxing UK business, the IK economy has overtaken France..
Still some people think we would be better off in the EU, despite us having to pay £20 billion a year in extra taxes to join. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 08:37 - Oct 19 with 352 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I thought we were an absolute basket case but France has taken it to a whole new level. Macron really needs to resign following his shambolic handling of these fiery but mostly peaceful protests/mass looting and destruction. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 08:45 - Oct 19 with 346 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Borrowing costs up for France after the weekend riots. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 08:51 - Oct 19 with 343 views | felixstowe_jack |
| French Economy in Trouble on 08:37 - Oct 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I thought we were an absolute basket case but France has taken it to a whole new level. Macron really needs to resign following his shambolic handling of these fiery but mostly peaceful protests/mass looting and destruction. |
Greece, Italy, France, Belgium and Spain all have higher national debts, as a proportion of GDP than the UK. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 08:55 - Oct 19 with 341 views | Whiterockin |
| French Economy in Trouble on 08:51 - Oct 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Greece, Italy, France, Belgium and Spain all have higher national debts, as a proportion of GDP than the UK. |
How many of those are in the EU that we left. |  | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:02 - Oct 19 with 332 views | felixstowe_jack |
| French Economy in Trouble on 08:55 - Oct 19 by Whiterockin |
How many of those are in the EU that we left. |
All of then. | |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 09:05 - Oct 19 with 330 views | Whiterockin |
Exactly, who in their right mind would want to rejoin. Except for possibly an unelected PM. | | | |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:15 - Oct 19 with 325 views | Dr_Winston |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:05 - Oct 19 by Whiterockin |
Exactly, who in their right mind would want to rejoin. Except for possibly an unelected PM. |
Rejoining the EU would mean that Burnham and co could basically hand over the running of the UK to someone else, someone who thinks and acts like them whilst never facing the actual risks of an election, This has the added bonus of maintaining the pretence of being in charge but having a convenient scapegoat to blame when things went wrong.
It's the ideal situation for a useless politician, which is why so many of them are in favour of it and would rush us back in tomorrow if they thought that they could get away with it.
I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist, but an entire continental elite all suddenly acting the same way, wanting the same things, causing the same problems whilst trying to smear anyone opposed to that as an equivalent to the 20th Century Boogyman is a bit on the nose. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 10:02 - Oct 19 with 288 views | union_jack |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:15 - Oct 19 by Dr_Winston |
Rejoining the EU would mean that Burnham and co could basically hand over the running of the UK to someone else, someone who thinks and acts like them whilst never facing the actual risks of an election, This has the added bonus of maintaining the pretence of being in charge but having a convenient scapegoat to blame when things went wrong.
It's the ideal situation for a useless politician, which is why so many of them are in favour of it and would rush us back in tomorrow if they thought that they could get away with it.
I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist, but an entire continental elite all suddenly acting the same way, wanting the same things, causing the same problems whilst trying to smear anyone opposed to that as an equivalent to the 20th Century Boogyman is a bit on the nose. |
Paradoxically, rejoining the EU, the exiting of which the SNP and PC have said was instrumental in their drive for independence, will give them another angle. We’re back in the EU so we may as well be an independent state within it and benefit from more wealthier countries contributions (typical of both those parties).
As for the riots, these are going on all over Europe now. Italy and Albania are seeing unrest but I don’t think the cause if the riots are the same. The French riots seem to be dominated by lefty extremists with Free Palestine agendas and immigrants whereas Tirana riots are more about domestic issues. We are going to see a lot of rioting just for the sake of it I think. |  |
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| French Economy in Trouble on 13:08 - Oct 19 with 207 views | AnotherJohn |
| French Economy in Trouble on 09:15 - Oct 19 by Dr_Winston |
Rejoining the EU would mean that Burnham and co could basically hand over the running of the UK to someone else, someone who thinks and acts like them whilst never facing the actual risks of an election, This has the added bonus of maintaining the pretence of being in charge but having a convenient scapegoat to blame when things went wrong.
It's the ideal situation for a useless politician, which is why so many of them are in favour of it and would rush us back in tomorrow if they thought that they could get away with it.
I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist, but an entire continental elite all suddenly acting the same way, wanting the same things, causing the same problems whilst trying to smear anyone opposed to that as an equivalent to the 20th Century Boogyman is a bit on the nose. |
"... hand over the running of the UK to someone else, someone who thinks and acts like them whilst never facing the actual risks of an election." It is that more than anything else that made me vote leave. There is a trend across many developed societies for law and legal regulation to move into the domains of politics, and even welfare. This can be called juridification, judicial activism, lawfare, or "deep law" among other things. The key point is that it puts many areas of public policy and welfare beyond the reach of national electorates. However people vote in two-party FPP or PR systems, they cannot influence the direction of change. Instruments such as the EU Acquis Communautaire, the ECHR and the UN Refugee Convention limit what we can do to maintain our way of life. The way things are going the UK and Europe more generally will bear liitle resemblance to what they were like in the 1960s. I think Labour began to see the attraction of binding international treaties (the "rule-based international order") during the period under Kinnock and Smith when they saw little prospect of an electoral majority, but all parties have been culpable. [Post edited 19 Oct 13:16]
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