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Putin and his butty Trump 11:01 - Oct 17 with 870 viewsmax936

Both are a danger to Europe concerning times, can see Trump pulling out of Nato before long.

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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:04 - Oct 17 with 858 viewsmax936

Trumps support for Zelensky is dwindling.

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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:08 - Oct 17 with 841 viewsDr_Winston

That Europe might potentially be at risk following a US withdrawal from NATO kinda proves Trump's point.

For decades Western Europe has prioritised Social Spending over Defence Spending, relying on the US to deter any malicious actors. DJT is entirely justified in calling them out on it. It's one of the few things that he's absolutely correct about.

Why should the US risk its lives and treasure in order to protect a continent that mostly holds them in contempt? There's nothing in Europe that America needs. No key technologies. No resources. With the growth in Islam I wouldn't be surprised if there were people in the US Defence Dept drawing up contingencies to deal with European Nations as a potential threat, not that any of them would pose a major one.

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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:25 - Oct 17 with 817 viewsbuilthjack

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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:36 - Oct 17 with 804 viewsAnotherJohn

Putin and his butty Trump on 11:08 - Oct 17 by Dr_Winston

That Europe might potentially be at risk following a US withdrawal from NATO kinda proves Trump's point.

For decades Western Europe has prioritised Social Spending over Defence Spending, relying on the US to deter any malicious actors. DJT is entirely justified in calling them out on it. It's one of the few things that he's absolutely correct about.

Why should the US risk its lives and treasure in order to protect a continent that mostly holds them in contempt? There's nothing in Europe that America needs. No key technologies. No resources. With the growth in Islam I wouldn't be surprised if there were people in the US Defence Dept drawing up contingencies to deal with European Nations as a potential threat, not that any of them would pose a major one.


I agree that Europe is highly culpable for under-investing in defence, but it is incorrect to say that the US would be stronger without Europe. Even in terms of what the US gains in miltary terms, the use of airfields in Europe is important for global l reach. Trump is looking more and more like a Russian asset, and what worries me is that checks such as the NDC, the Supreme Court and the FBI may already be compromised because of Trump appointees in key positions.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:48 - Oct 17 with 783 viewsJJBomber

Hopefully Russia and the USA can invade Europe before the IRGC do, though it may already be too late.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 12:24 - Oct 17 with 754 viewsGwyn737

Putin and his butty Trump on 11:48 - Oct 17 by JJBomber

Hopefully Russia and the USA can invade Europe before the IRGC do, though it may already be too late.


You want Russia and the USA to invade Europe?
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Putin and his butty Trump on 14:33 - Oct 17 with 712 viewsAnotherJohn

Putin and his butty Trump on 12:24 - Oct 17 by Gwyn737

You want Russia and the USA to invade Europe?


New twist on the situation at the end of WW2 when many Germans were hoping the USA got there before the Russians?
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Putin and his butty Trump on 17:10 - Oct 17 with 653 viewsunion_jack

Putin and his butty Trump on 12:24 - Oct 17 by Gwyn737

You want Russia and the USA to invade Europe?


I think he’s just making a point, don’t you?

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Putin and his butty Trump on 17:43 - Oct 17 with 634 viewsRhonnda_Jack

Do you think for yourself ? not being nasty or sarcastic.
But echoing mainstream media quotes as your own is sad.
There is no thing as a newspaper anymore its a propaganda rag.

The orange man bad thing is demented.
Trump is trying to secure peace in Europe.
Keeping Russia as a outsider is way more of a threat!

any news on the new covid that has spread out of the lab?
The neo world needs sorting, google the heads of the armys last speech max we are heading towards ww3.
Trump wants us to live, ousting that pres zalenski is needed.

I love the way people talk about Trump like it isn't the CIA script he repeats. 'He is the new biden:

War our time v ousting zalenski . Bye bye zal.

I would go to war with Iran atm for cheaper fuel. I have had a 30% pay cut due to the non action. We need drastic change, the end of the war in Iran means scaling back of that conflict also.
But the new twist is we pay for defence big time, Russia only tried pulling this due to the peace time dividend that has seen our navy turned into a part time force of sailors.
We need Vlad back on side Russian oil and gas is needed.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 17:46 - Oct 17 with 623 viewsRhonnda_Jack

Putin and his butty Trump on 17:43 - Oct 17 by Rhonnda_Jack

Do you think for yourself ? not being nasty or sarcastic.
But echoing mainstream media quotes as your own is sad.
There is no thing as a newspaper anymore its a propaganda rag.

The orange man bad thing is demented.
Trump is trying to secure peace in Europe.
Keeping Russia as a outsider is way more of a threat!

any news on the new covid that has spread out of the lab?
The neo world needs sorting, google the heads of the armys last speech max we are heading towards ww3.
Trump wants us to live, ousting that pres zalenski is needed.

I love the way people talk about Trump like it isn't the CIA script he repeats. 'He is the new biden:

War our time v ousting zalenski . Bye bye zal.

I would go to war with Iran atm for cheaper fuel. I have had a 30% pay cut due to the non action. We need drastic change, the end of the war in Iran means scaling back of that conflict also.
But the new twist is we pay for defence big time, Russia only tried pulling this due to the peace time dividend that has seen our navy turned into a part time force of sailors.
We need Vlad back on side Russian oil and gas is needed.
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but even bigger HAIL PEACE IN EUROPE

LEST WE FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Putin and his butty Trump on 18:31 - Oct 17 with 590 viewsAnotherJohn

Putin and his butty Trump on 17:46 - Oct 17 by Rhonnda_Jack

but even bigger HAIL PEACE IN EUROPE

LEST WE FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Unfortunately, this is the MAGA mindset that we absolutely do not want on this side of the Atlantic. The key point is that we cannot be confident that Putin will be content with Ukraine. He wants to re-create the Soviet Union (or if you prefer, the old Russian empire, which isn't greatly different). If Ukrainians feel betrayed then some will join his army, along with theiir technology. Apart from the potential negative consequences for us, there is morality - something the Russians don't seem to have.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 18:58 - Oct 17 with 562 viewsshingle

Why is America a danger to Europe, have they any obligations to us, they have already saved our skins in the past with World War 2 being a prime example, have America caused the decline in the UK i'm sure it is our politations and our people who allow them to do so who mismanage our borders, we refrain from spending what is needed on defence and allow unvetted terroists to enter the country in small boats, it is our Government who are the danger and main cause of our problems, and certinly not America.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 21:37 - Oct 17 with 499 viewsmax936

Putin and his butty Trump on 17:43 - Oct 17 by Rhonnda_Jack

Do you think for yourself ? not being nasty or sarcastic.
But echoing mainstream media quotes as your own is sad.
There is no thing as a newspaper anymore its a propaganda rag.

The orange man bad thing is demented.
Trump is trying to secure peace in Europe.
Keeping Russia as a outsider is way more of a threat!

any news on the new covid that has spread out of the lab?
The neo world needs sorting, google the heads of the armys last speech max we are heading towards ww3.
Trump wants us to live, ousting that pres zalenski is needed.

I love the way people talk about Trump like it isn't the CIA script he repeats. 'He is the new biden:

War our time v ousting zalenski . Bye bye zal.

I would go to war with Iran atm for cheaper fuel. I have had a 30% pay cut due to the non action. We need drastic change, the end of the war in Iran means scaling back of that conflict also.
But the new twist is we pay for defence big time, Russia only tried pulling this due to the peace time dividend that has seen our navy turned into a part time force of sailors.
We need Vlad back on side Russian oil and gas is needed.
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You're totally deluded mate, you obviously don't think for yourself, if you don think that Trump isn't cosying up to Putin, Trump is looking after Trump like he always has, he started the war with Iran and what as it achieved? the answer is f'all and now he has no idea on how to end it.

He's a danger to the world probably moreso than Putin. The evidence is out there for all to see it for those that want to see it of course Nobel peace prize be f'ed, chief bellend prize more like!
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Putin and his butty Trump on 23:49 - Oct 17 with 446 viewsRay_Delauney

He doesn't have the power to unilaterally withdraw the US from NATO 👍.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 00:01 - Oct 18 with 439 viewsJJBomber

Putin and his butty Trump on 23:49 - Oct 17 by Ray_Delauney

He doesn't have the power to unilaterally withdraw the US from NATO 👍.


Nor would the US want to. They can veto anything they disagree with if they are a member. That is more important than anything else.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:29 - Oct 18 with 307 viewsunion_jack

Now Trump has paused sanctions on Russia. Happy Birthday Vlad!

What on earth is he doing? He’s helping one of the nations who are a threat to world peace and security in the name of what? Is this what MAGA support? Will the mid terms react positively or negatively? Will he declare a fraudulent voting system if the latter?

The man is a fool but of course most of us realise that!

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Putin and his butty Trump on 11:52 - Oct 18 with 284 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his butty Trump on 11:29 - Oct 18 by union_jack

Now Trump has paused sanctions on Russia. Happy Birthday Vlad!

What on earth is he doing? He’s helping one of the nations who are a threat to world peace and security in the name of what? Is this what MAGA support? Will the mid terms react positively or negatively? Will he declare a fraudulent voting system if the latter?

The man is a fool but of course most of us realise that!


Trump is and always has been about Trump
The most vainglorious narcissist to assume the presidency
Nobody in history comes close
An insane deranged corrupt prick who even now has America in the palm of his hand
Russia is and always has been untrustworthy poison whose inhumanity is legendary and firgitten all to easily
I learned this in my late teens as I became great friends with an East German who
1- escaped Berlin under a truck and
2- whose mother and aunt were raped by the glorious Red Army en route to Berlin

It’s tragic folk didn’t listen to Churchill about the treachery of Stalin and liberated Berlin first
It resulted in fifty years of imprisonment for Eastern Europe citizens

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Putin and his butty Trump on 15:54 - Oct 18 with 223 viewsmax936

Putin and his butty Trump on 23:49 - Oct 17 by Ray_Delauney

He doesn't have the power to unilaterally withdraw the US from NATO 👍.


Cheers Ray I didn't know that. I would have thought that congress wouldn't give the go ahead, but Trump being Trump etc.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 18:06 - Oct 18 with 174 viewsReslovenSwan1

Putin and his butty Trump on 17:10 - Oct 17 by union_jack

I think he’s just making a point, don’t you?


He is promoting the ideology of Likud who wish to create a global holy war. If you support the aims of Isreal you have to accept it is a long games and brutally violence and land theft will continue with no settlement for at least another 100 years A peaceful settlement of s the last thing Likud wants. That is why Rabin was assassinated.

I recall arguing against Isreali policy in 1980 as a student against an advocate of It steal who claimed all they wanted was peace.
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Putin and his butty Trump on 21:23 - Oct 18 with 96 viewsRay_Delauney

Putin and his butty Trump on 18:06 - Oct 18 by ReslovenSwan1

He is promoting the ideology of Likud who wish to create a global holy war. If you support the aims of Isreal you have to accept it is a long games and brutally violence and land theft will continue with no settlement for at least another 100 years A peaceful settlement of s the last thing Likud wants. That is why Rabin was assassinated.

I recall arguing against Isreali policy in 1980 as a student against an advocate of It steal who claimed all they wanted was peace.
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If you haven't seen it, then I can wholeheartedly recommend you watch "Praying for Armageddon" on the iPlayer.

It explains why Christian Fundamentalists in the US have such a massive hold over foreign policy, despite their flawed conflation of Christianity & Judaism.

Absolutely jaw-dropping stuff.
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